observations like "the beat is not really doing any rhythmic work"
is that from the amerie thread? because i never said that here
if its from that one it also sounds out of context as fuck
Yes, it was from the Amerie thread.
But there is no imaginable context in which it would make sense.
i can only imagine i said it like "the beat is not really doing any rhythmic work to a certain specific end," the rhythm doesn't lock in to a firm predictable groove but since we're still debating the diff between 'rhythm' and 'groove' a year later i dont really want to get into this again
Anyone can go on & on about nothing. When are you going to post some raer already? You wanna be down so bad? Step up to the plate, kid, & drop some heat.
I never said you fronted. Just pointing out the obvious, you are the sole non-record buyer in a record enthusiast forum.
i doubt this although i do 'buy records' but i am not concerned w/ things like collectability or value or raerity
DocMcCoy"Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
Well, there's a half-hour of my life I'll never get back.
My two, for what it's worth. Kanye is now pretty much a pop artist, or at least the kind of rap artist that pop fans will comfortably cosign. What he's done on this joint shouldn't really come as a surprise to anyone. Personally, I think it's nothing at all special, although I could certainly imagine it hitting in the club. What's more bewildering to me about this discussion are the following points;
1) Kanye's lyrics/skills on the mic - I can't believe people are actually still bothered about this. Strictly within the context of a Kanye record, what he does is fine. In fact, sometimes it's really good. Comparing him to [insert name of gold standard emcee here] is some apples and oranges shit, and kinda pointless to me.
2) The artistic validity of The Club Banger - all I have to say about this is that some people, even us greybeards, still like a rap record you can dance to every now and again. Sounding hot for a few months in the clubb is more than a lot of more feted records seem able to manage nowadays. I fail to see what's wrong with an artist aiming for a particular effect with their music and succeeding at it.
3) People who hate on Ye for no reason other than his popularity - these earnest and committed Enemies of Fun who seem to believe that, unless a record achieves a kind of full spectrum dominance of artistic expression, it can't possibly have any worth or value can carry on eating a big bag of dicks.
3) People who hate on Ye for no reason other than his popularity - these earnest and committed Enemies of Fun[/b] who seem to believe that, unless a record achieves a kind of full spectrum dominance of artistic expression, it can't possibly have any worth or value can carry on eating a big bag of dicks.
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Thanks man!
DocMcCoy"Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
3) People who hate on Ye for no reason other than his popularity - these earnest and committed Enemies of Fun[/b] who seem to believe that, unless a record achieves a kind of full spectrum dominance of artistic expression, it can't possibly have any worth or value can carry on eating a big bag of dicks.
i feel misrepresented so i'm apparently not being as clear as i think i am, but whats the point any more
lol, you know were all just fucking around on the internets. I dont really have anything against you man, and you got me back with that soundclick bit anyways.
In seriousness though, deej, SoulStrut was around for years before you arrived and the community and its modes of discussion were pretty much fully formed by the time you got here.
If you're frustrated that nobody takes observations like "the beat is not really doing any rhythmic work" seriously, then maybe you save those observations for ILX.
but it is hard to imagine how this place ever existed without every thread devolving into a deej clown fest
and if you guys are getting assburnt over a so-so song like "stronger" just wait til you hear kanye's next single - truly
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
Finally bothered to listen to the song...
1. That's got to be Kanye's laziest production to date.
2. The rapping ain't all that bad...and I typically can't stand to hear Kanye rap.
3. So are Anti Pop Consortium records about to spike in popularity?
3a. If I ever sell a Nitzer Ebb record on eBay, should I be proactive and put the word BREAKS in its subject line?
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There's no evidence that deej actually buys records.
i prefer music
although i do 'buy records' but i am not concerned w/ things like collectability or value or raerity
My two, for what it's worth. Kanye is now pretty much a pop artist, or at least the kind of rap artist that pop fans will comfortably cosign. What he's done on this joint shouldn't really come as a surprise to anyone. Personally, I think it's nothing at all special, although I could certainly imagine it hitting in the club. What's more bewildering to me about this discussion are the following points;
1) Kanye's lyrics/skills on the mic - I can't believe people are actually still bothered about this. Strictly within the context of a Kanye record, what he does is fine. In fact, sometimes it's really good. Comparing him to [insert name of gold standard emcee here] is some apples and oranges shit, and kinda pointless to me.
2) The artistic validity of The Club Banger - all I have to say about this is that some people, even us greybeards, still like a rap record you can dance to every now and again. Sounding hot for a few months in the clubb is more than a lot of more feted records seem able to manage nowadays. I fail to see what's wrong with an artist aiming for a particular effect with their music and succeeding at it.
3) People who hate on Ye for no reason other than his popularity - these earnest and committed Enemies of Fun who seem to believe that, unless a record achieves a kind of full spectrum dominance of artistic expression, it can't possibly have any worth or value can carry on eating a big bag of dicks.
Deej's vocabulary has been turned against him!
Oh deej, don't sulk--you know you're one of my favorite posters.
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Thanks man!
I like to spread a little happiness.
Damn right I kissed my daddy!
lol, you know were all just fucking around on the internets. I dont really have anything against you man, and you got me back with that soundclick bit anyways.
dont take it so hard.
but it is hard to imagine how this place ever existed without every thread devolving into a deej clown fest
and if you guys are getting assburnt over a so-so song like "stronger" just wait til you hear kanye's next single - truly
1. That's got to be Kanye's laziest production to date.
2. The rapping ain't all that bad...and I typically can't stand to hear Kanye rap.
3. So are Anti Pop Consortium records about to spike in popularity?
3a. If I ever sell a Nitzer Ebb record on eBay, should I be proactive and put the word BREAKS in its subject line?
Only if spelled as 'BRAKES'.