The demo I was referring to in the "Awkward Situation" post was from one of those type groups. It was asscrack booty!!!! I find these groups corny. They're trying too hard to be "something" (whatever the fuck that is), and it comes off contrived. Typical skateboard rap at its worst!!!
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Big Stacks from Kakalak
Stacks, what happened to your trademark Funkadelic signature?
The demo I was referring to in the "Awkward Situation" post was from one of those type groups. It was asscrack booty!!!! I find these groups corny. They're trying too hard to be "something" (whatever the fuck that is), and it comes off contrived. Typical skateboard rap at its worst!!!
the only shit like that i can ever remember enjoying was LL on Unplugged.
How about the Roots backing up Jay-Z? That shit was hot IMO.
Re: Roots backin' up Jay-Z -> the reason (from this vantage point) that it worked so well is the same reason that plagues the Roots for the most part on their recorded material (w/ the exception of one or two tracks here and there such as 'What They Do') - they come off as too studied an outfit - I don't really hear much of a spontaneous swing in the sound - it's as if Ahmir, Tariq et al all sat down and listened to a slew of albums, memorizing as if for master examination, and passed w/ flying colors - it means you're qualified, but that doesn't translate into compelling... Best analogy I can come up w/ the swing of an SP1200 versus that of Fruity Loops... So for Jay-Z, they could replicate the music behind him fluidly, but given to their own devices, the crazed-look-in-the-face-sh*t-is-the-bomb just doesn't exist...
To further along the comparison of jam and hip-hop bands, Roots = Phish when it comes to touring prowess which I guess is a good thing if that's how your bills are gettin' paid in full...
Can't front on these cats though! Tear the roof of venues..
Actually, I think their records are an excellent example of just how crappy this shit can be, and could even be a blueprint for the lil local dudes we're talking about here... (never seen them live however, and wouldn't bother...)
Yes, Live Human are dope live, but they don't have a rapper!
Crown City Rockers pka The Mission fit this profile perfectly plus a gang of baby groups in SF, so boring, so tedious. It's like after seeing Breakestra for the 400th time, ok, you're kinda funky, I get it, NOW WHAT?
there's this one band in SF that's the worst, I can't think of their name....
Can't front on these cats though! Tear the roof of venues..
Actually, I think their records are an excellent example of just how crappy this shit can be, and could even be a blueprint for the lil local dudes we're talking about here... (never seen them live however, and wouldn't bother...)
Feel how ya want but If you've never seen them you can't say shit. I don't have any of there records ...I got some Quest mixtapes with some of their stuff on there. If you are into cutting and some real DJ representing shit you can't get much better than DJ Quest killin it with these dudes live.
Yes, Live Human are dope live, but they don't have a rapper!
Crown City Rockers pka The Mission fit this profile perfectly plus a gang of baby groups in SF, so boring, so tedious. It's like after seeing Breakestra for the 400th time, ok, you're kinda funky, I get it, NOW WHAT?
there's this one band in SF that's the worst, I can't think of their name....
I didn't know we were talkin exclusive to emcee's ..but I have seen Live human do shows with Luke sick and eddie K on the mic and it was pretty hype.
Yes, Live Human are dope live, but they don't have a rapper!
Crown City Rockers pka The Mission fit this profile perfectly plus a gang of baby groups in SF, so boring, so tedious. It's like after seeing Breakestra for the 400th time, ok, you're kinda funky, I get it, NOW WHAT?
there's this one band in SF that's the worst, I can't think of their name....
I understand the scene I used to live in a spot in Norther cali flooded with hippie-hop and on any given day you would come across suckey ass shit like this...cats coming from jam bands that were forming groups because they just heard the Roots for the first time and that somehow validated hip-hop as an art form for them...
I'll add: "MIC CHECK, MIC CHECK" .... back in MYYYYY DAY that shit meant something. Last time I did sound for some jokers, first couple of times I hear it I pretend to make adjustments to the already fine levels. Third time I realize, Oh, you're just insecure in front of a crowd and you're yelling it to sound professional/like Jay-Z. Anyway, white girls LoOOOOOOOve this stuff.
Someone mentioned Brand New Heavies... that LP is choc-full of samples and loops, they just perfected the jazz cat style due to the massive Acid Jazz crap that was going on in the early 90s. Ahead of their time:
Dudes that happen to be in a band deciding to mess with rap = not a good look
Rap acts finding a role for instruments in their live shows = a potentially good look I know yall are about clown but I thought Common's show on the Electric Circus tour was pretty dope. I didn't really listen to the album but for some reason it came off better live.
Third time I realize, Oh, you're just insecure in front of a crowd and you're yelling it to sound professional/like Jay-Z.
and this is really a problem? Rap has been forever filled w/ mic "filler" call it hyping up the crowd or whatever you want to. Rappers LOVE to hear themselves talk. Shit there are special people (hype-men) who do nothing but this shit. It comes w/ the teritory aka "YO, yo yo" "Make some Noise" "throw your hands/diamonds/drink/whatever in the air" "everybody say hooooo..." "all the ladies in the house...." "all the fellas..." As a side note, this aspect of hip-hop is one of the things "rockists" hate most.
Can't front on these cats though! Tear the roof of venues..
Actually, I think their records are an excellent example of just how crappy this shit can be, and could even be a blueprint for the lil local dudes we're talking about here... (never seen them live however, and wouldn't bother...)
Feel how ya want but If you've never seen them you can't say shit.
What, are you actually in the band or some sh!t?
I mean, damn, dude.
Also, I note that their album is apparently titled Orangebush Monkeyflower... they pretty much lost me right there.
Third time I realize, Oh, you're just insecure in front of a crowd and you're yelling it to sound professional/like Jay-Z.
and this is really a problem? Rap has been forever filled w/ mic "filler" call it hyping up the crowd or whatever you want to. Rappers LOVE to hear themselves talk. Shit there are special people (hype-men) who do nothing but this shit. It comes w/ the teritory aka "YO, yo yo" "Make some Noise" "throw your hands/diamonds/drink/whatever in the air" "everybody say hooooo..." "all the ladies in the house...." "all the fellas..." As a side note, this aspect of hip-hop is one of the things
Steve Harvey[/b] hate the most.
I just payed 28.50$ why don't you "SAY HO! AND THROW YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR [/b]
I had an arguement with this young girl about live vs. dj hip hop. Her youth and race definitely came into play when she gave her opinions. She said that the live stuff is "real" hip hop. I tried to give the history lesson but she wasnt tryin to hear me. I can appreciate the live shit,when done well, but nothin beats a good mc interacting with a good dj,IMO. Has anybody heard the lost Q-tip album that didnt get released? He was tryin' to do some fusion type stuff. Along with some questionable singing.
Can't front on these cats though! Tear the roof of venues..
Actually, I think their records are an excellent example of just how crappy this shit can be, and could even be a blueprint for the lil local dudes we're talking about here... (never seen them live however, and wouldn't bother...)
Feel how ya want but If you've never seen them you can't say shit.
What, are you actually in the band or some sh!t?
I mean, damn, dude.
Also, I note that their album is apparently titled Orangebush Monkeyflower... they pretty much lost me right there.
Man I grew up around some horrible hippie rap shit... I'm just sayin I don't see the relationship between hackey sac and hemp necklaces getting sold in the park well some white dude in a Grateful Dead shirt with dreadlocks he got at a salon spits a rhyme about how "I don't by Nike Mon...made in sweatshop Mon!" and live human ...that is all
I don't see the relationship between hackey sac and hemp necklaces getting sold in the park well some white dude in a Grateful Dead shirt with dreadlocks he got at a salon spits a rhyme about how "I don't by Nike Mon...made in sweatshop Mon!" and live human ...that is all
Third time I realize, Oh, you're just insecure in front of a crowd and you're yelling it to sound professional/like Jay-Z.
and this is really a problem? Rap has been forever filled w/ mic "filler" call it hyping up the crowd or whatever you want to. Rappers LOVE to hear themselves talk. Shit there are special people (hype-men) who do nothing but this shit. It comes w/ the teritory aka "YO, yo yo" "Make some Noise" "throw your hands/diamonds/drink/whatever in the air" "everybody say hooooo..." "all the ladies in the house...." "all the fellas..." As a side note, this aspect of hip-hop is one of the things "rockists" hate most.
That's not what I was referring to at all. MIC CHECK, MIC CHECK before every rap is a sign that one be full of it. That's not the same as "Throw your hands in the air"... Were you at this show: "Can I get a stand?" [Audience roars] .... "A mic stand"
Speaking of which... Big Dady Kane, July 13th, 7pm, Brower Park, Crown Heights. In the fucking mix or what?
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Stacks, what happened to your trademark Funkadelic signature?
what is this "skateboard rap" you speak of?
Re: Roots backin' up Jay-Z -> the reason (from this vantage point) that it worked so well is the same reason that plagues the Roots for the most part on their recorded material (w/ the exception of one or two tracks here and there such as 'What They Do') - they come off as too studied an outfit - I don't really hear much of a spontaneous swing in the sound - it's as if Ahmir, Tariq et al all sat down and listened to a slew of albums, memorizing as if for master examination, and passed w/ flying colors - it means you're qualified, but that doesn't translate into compelling... Best analogy I can come up w/ the swing of an SP1200 versus that of Fruity Loops... So for Jay-Z, they could replicate the music behind him fluidly, but given to their own devices, the crazed-look-in-the-face-sh*t-is-the-bomb just doesn't exist...
To further along the comparison of jam and hip-hop bands, Roots = Phish when it comes to touring prowess which I guess is a good thing if that's how your bills are gettin' paid in full...
Reminds me of seeing Goodie Mob on their "Still Standing" tour...that shit was a real CONCERT. Had a great time!
Actually, I think their records are an excellent example of just how crappy this shit can be, and could even be a blueprint for the lil local dudes we're talking about here... (never seen them live however, and wouldn't bother...)
Crown City Rockers pka The Mission fit this profile perfectly plus a gang of baby groups in SF, so boring, so tedious. It's like after seeing Breakestra for the 400th time, ok, you're kinda funky, I get it, NOW WHAT?
there's this one band in SF that's the worst, I can't think of their name....
Ever listen to this? One extended live track on this features Biz Markie, its dope. Also has Mandrill covers, incl. Fencewalk.
Also is that LA band Dakah still around? I saw them once, they were on some next level
I understand the scene I used to live in a spot in Norther cali flooded with hippie-hop and on any given day you would come across suckey ass shit like this...cats coming from jam bands that were forming groups because they just heard the Roots for the first time and that somehow validated hip-hop as an art form for them...
I'll add: "MIC CHECK, MIC CHECK" .... back in MYYYYY DAY that shit meant something. Last time I did sound for some jokers, first couple of times I hear it I pretend to make adjustments to the already fine levels. Third time I realize, Oh, you're just insecure in front of a crowd and you're yelling it to sound professional/like Jay-Z. Anyway, white girls LoOOOOOOOve this stuff.
Someone mentioned Brand New Heavies... that LP is choc-full of samples and loops, they just perfected the jazz cat style due to the massive Acid Jazz crap that was going on in the early 90s. Ahead of their time:
Mmmmm, "contemporary". Nice.
That Don Byron album is pretty good, but not next level shit.
So, to summarize:
Dudes that happen to be in a band deciding to mess with rap = not a good look
Rap acts finding a role for instruments in their live shows = a potentially good look
I know yall are about clown but I thought Common's show on the Electric Circus tour was pretty dope. I didn't really listen to the album but for some reason it came off better live.
Live Human=Dope
Crown City=Pretty Good
A lot of these other local rap bands= kind of fucking
What, are you actually in the band or some sh!t?
I mean, damn, dude.
Also, I note that their album is apparently titled Orangebush Monkeyflower... they pretty much lost me right there.
I just payed 28.50$ why don't you "SAY HO! AND THROW YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR [/b]
P.S. I think this photo is kinda fucked up
Their name is "Live Human"
Their album is called "Orangebush Monkeyflower"
Oh, man...
=[/b]
That's not what I was referring to at all. MIC CHECK, MIC CHECK before every rap is a sign that one be full of it. That's not the same as "Throw your hands in the air"... Were you at this show: "Can I get a stand?" [Audience roars] .... "A mic stand"
Speaking of which... Big Dady Kane, July 13th, 7pm, Brower Park, Crown Heights. In the fucking mix or what?
Everytime this picture surfaces, I laugh.
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