so no discussion about libby's GUILTY verdict?

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  • motown67motown67 4,513 Posts
    This just in from the British Parliament and Lord Butler who headed the government investigation into Britain's pre-war claims about Iraq's WMD, including their claim that Iraq sought uranium from Africa.

    From IraqSlogger.com 3/22/07

    The debate over pre-war intelligence is heating up in the UK again, with a new torrent of criticism being directed at Tony Blair for using questionable intelligence to justify decisions that led to the invasion of Iraq.

    John Simpson, BBC world affairs editor, reported on the Today morning radio program this week that, "At least two Whitehall heavyweights, thoroughly informed about the whole business, think the intelligence on which the Blair government went to war in Iraq was wrongly used."

    One of his sources also admitted that, "It was one of the great regrets of his career, with the benefit of hindsight, that he didn't challenge how the intelligence was used."

    One of those Whitehall heavyweights is presumably Lord Butler, who headed the inquiry into pre-war intelligence, which ultimately concluded that though mistakes had been made, everyone in the government had acted honorably in the run-up to war.

    Butler has recently reversed that conclusion somewhat, calling Tony Blair "disingenuous" while speaking in front of Parliament:

    Neither the United Kingdom nor the United States had the intelligence that proved conclusively that Iraq had those weapons. The Prime Minister was disingenuous about that. The United Kingdom intelligence community told him on 23 August 2002 that, ???we ... know little about Iraq???s chemical and biological weapons work since late 1988???.

    The Prime Minister did not tell us that. Indeed, he told Parliament only just over a month later that the picture painted by our intelligence services was ???extensive, detailed and authoritative???. Those words could simply not have been justified by the material that the intelligence community provided to him.>>

  • WOW, U still mad?It's truely sad that you fail to appreciate that your feverish efforts to engage me on tangential points only highlights the very thing youre trying to obscure: the shakedown I gave you on the subject at hand.

    Suck it up and move on.

  • deejdeej 5,125 Posts
    dolo your baiting game is weak. lol @ 'tangential'

  • rootlesscosmorootlesscosmo 12,848 Posts
    WOW, U still mad?It's truely sad that you fail to appreciate that your feverish efforts to engage me on tangential points only highlights the very thing youre trying to obscure: the shakedown I gave you on the subject at hand.

    Suck it up and move on.


    what's really sad is the ease with which you would forget this scandal.




    if you truly had our country's interests at heart (as you claim), you would refrain from ad hominem attacks (e.g. "bitch") on a woman who has devoted her life to serving her country (what the fuck have YOU done?).

    you would instead focus on the underlying tragedy here, which is that (a) Cheney was running his own private administration (an ominous breakdown in the chain of command, and a run-around your boy Bush) and (b) that the Niger-yellow-cake story (a fake) was in fact used as a primary justification for going to war.

    So try to set aside the Plame scandal and ask yourself: Do these two things bother you at all? If not, why not?[/b]




    dolo: a true patriot. smear jobs and right-wing talking points apparently trump good governance and transparency in his jingoistic mindgarden.

    then again, it's a Republican admin that screwed up here so your memory is short.

    your dick's prolly still hard for Ken Starr though and it's been like ten years.

  • motown67motown67 4,513 Posts
    Honest debates are a good thing. Can you participate in one and make a coherent argument or is your whole shtick name calling and false braggadocio?

    Can you actually make an argument and back up your statements that you???ve made?

    It???s no fun beating a bitch over and over. It gets old. Prove that you???re a grown up for once.

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