so no discussion about libby's GUILTY verdict?
deej
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deej
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Deej, for real, slow your roll and take a fucking break.
You want to chit-chat about Libby, go find a political blog,
and there your ten little indians can dance and frolick the
day away on the keyboard.
Right here, right now, is RAPP RECORDS, beeyatch.
RECORDS.
I'm sorry the last political thread turned into some weak repubilcan talking points shit but i can't control that. I think this is an interesting subject and if the board doesnt agree then it'll drop off the first page and oh well thats how it goes.
in the meantime, enough with the unearned snobbery and condescension
I love this mentality......does this make up for the "Duke Boys"??
the nuanced political commentary we've come to expect from the one called kala.
and totally agree on the fact that this shit's been low key on the media front
But, you think he'll get a pardon?
Im not sure. Wondering what the sentencing will be. Is it out?
er, I mean I love brand nubian too...
I am very love/hate with patrick "eliot ness" fitzgerald but the dude did a pretty amazing job here.
now this : http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070306/ap_on_go_co/congress_prosecutors
ah yes i forgot about this..coulde have been the plan all along...real quick..right before georgie leaves office
gotta love the system
According to rockadelic, you're basically in the klan now...
The most important bit of info from the entire case was that it provided another example of how dysfunctional the Bush administration's foreign policy system was (if you can even call it a system). Cheney carried out his own PR campaign to discredit Joseph Wilson without telling anyone else in the administration. During the trial it came out that there was a White House meeting about replying to Wilson. Various members of the staff came up with responses while Libby didn't tell anyone that he and Cheney were already talking to reporters and leaking intelligence reports to discredit him.
Overall, Cheney came out looking like a power unto himself who felt that he could do anything he wanted when it came to Iraq and defending his rep.
Oh man, WOW..... wow.
Since this isn't the first time, I have to think they do this for all the bars/other public venues that show it on mute or like housewives/dads at home vacuuming and not hearing this shit... and then they end up telling me that I'm wrong and listening to that lying liberal media when I try to have a conversation
1. Joe wilson comes out alleging deliberate mendacity on the part of the bush government over claims iraq tried to purchase nuclear material from niger. Its obvious to anyone with a brain that mr. wilson is a fantasist though lefty's with their already meagre cognitive powers diminished still further by bush hatred find his bullshit compelling stuff.
2. Once it becomes obvious even to the pro-terrorist bush hating idiots that wilsons claims dont stand up they look for a way to both cover up being taken in by this idiot and keep the story going.
3. They begin alleging, with no evidence, that the whitehouse illegally leaked joe wilsons 'CIA agent' wife's name to the press in order to discredit him. An accusation that doesnt make a blind bit of sense when you consider that his claims were clear bullshit and the leaking of her name would only add fuel to the story
4. An enquiry gets underway and after much kerfuffle it is, predictably, revealed that the bush administration wasnt the source of the bitches name being leaked to the media.
5. After years of wasting money on a bogus piece of shit case Fitzgerald decideds he must walk away with a scalp of some kind. The fall guy is libby who is convicted on the basis of his recollection of conversations he had with two people differing with their recollections. Even though one of those readily conceded that libby's version of the conversation could be the correct one and both delivered testimonies that had inconsistencies with things they had said earlier and with other witnesses libby is convicted in one of the greatest miscarriages of justice ever.
Just to fill you bitches in
This is the kind of reasoned political analysis that Dolo does that's really grown quite near and dear to my heart.
Oh, and these are lies:
(BTW, I like how you call her bitch! whats she ever done for this country! That bitch!)
Wilson's claim that he found no evidence of Iraq trying to buy uranium from Niger proved to be right. He did find a businessman who said that an Iraqi official had contacted him about trade, and the CIA wanted to look into whether that involved uranium or not.
The documents that claimed to have been about the Iraq-Niger deal were fakes made by a shady ex-intelligence agent and some staff at the Niger embassy in Rome who were looking to make a quick buck and did.
What Wilson got wrong was that he said that Cheney knew about his trip and therefore the White House should have not allowed Bush to say that Iraq was trying to buy yellow cake in his state of the union speech.
When Wilson was sent on the trip by the CIA he was told that Cheney wanted to look into it so he assumed that Cheney must have been told about his findings. In fact, the CIA didn't pass along what he found.
Wilson also claimed to have seen some of the fake Niger documents when he didn't.
See above, and you're the only idiot I see.
Reporters first heard about Plame's name from Dep. Sec. of State Richard Armitage. However Libby, under Cheney's direction, did give her name to several reporters as a way to discredit Wilson. They wanted to say that Wilson was sent on the trip because of nepotism, not because of his expertise, which he did have in Niger having worked there as an American diplomat. Wilson's wife also was not the one that sent him on the trip. She brought up his name, but it was a different directorate in the CIA which actually contacted him and sent him on his way.
This covert PR campaign was also not sanctioned by the White House, but was a private endeavor by Cheney, who did not share what he was doing with the rest of the administration.
They find out Libby wasn't the first source, but that he was spreading her name.
The reason Libby got busted was because he came up with a bullshit story. No one forced him into it, he made up the story, "I knew Plame's name, then I forgot about it, but then a reporter told me about it and I remembered it."
The reporter he claimed to have heard her name from, Tim Russert, didn't know who Plame was so he could not have been the source.
The evidence was very clear that he was spreading her name to discredit Wilson.
You are the only punk bitch that I see.
know the ledge dolo