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  • DISTANCE YOURSELF FROM WHAT YOU YOURSELF (AT LEAST ON ONE HAND WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT FOR YOU) RECOGNIZES AS BULLSHIT OR YOU TOO ARE BULLSHIT!

    That is exactly what I have done with my life dude.

    The fact that you see it as some kind of self-serving capitalist move... just shows how naive you are.

    You don't know WHAT I am doing, other than this business here... so let's not speculate into that which we don't know. I sure don't feel the need to run off a checklist of positive things I do in this community or any other... but it's unfortunate you assume that they don't exist.

  • ...for those of us old enough to remember the fall-out from the Vietnam War.

    wait a second, you couldnt be older than 38. which would make you, what, 4 years old tops when that happened? thats a good memory.

    How many of my uncles and dads of my friends and coach's and such growing up served in Vietnam?

    A whole fuck load.

    yeah, mine too. but i dont claim to remember what it was like vicariously.

    and since you didnt answer im going to assume you are younger than 38 and therefore dont remember shit, yes?

    Yes, instead we should pretend that we know nothing so then we can do nothing.

    HOW CONVENIENT!

    maybe we should pretend we're black and change our names to rashied!

  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts


    DISTANCE YOURSELF FROM WHAT YOU YOURSELF (AT LEAST ON ONE HAND WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT FOR YOU) RECOGNIZES AS BULLSHIT OR YOU TOO ARE BULLSHIT!

    That is exactly what I have done with my life dude.

    The fact that you see it as some kind of self-serving capitalist move... just shows how naive you are.

    You don't know WHAT I am doing, other than this business here... so let's not speculate into that which we don't know. I sure don't feel the need to run off a checklist of positive things I do in this community or any other... but it's unfortunate you assume that they don't exist.

    I want them to exist. Believe me, I'm pulling for you in every way. It's just my opinion from what I see you post here that you stop short on many things that you seem plenty passionate enough to follow through on. Hopefully I have the wrong impression...

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    . I started a non-profit foundation that ultimately benefits kids who need and want their educations to be augmented with lessons that their schools aren't giving them.


    I'm deadly serious....does this include Chemtrails or any other of your litany of conspiracy theories??

    Yeah dude, I'm teaching a conspiracy theory class in a middle school. It comes right after the kids have their AK-47 shooting practice, I mean recess.

  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    You are calling my character into question.

    I have voted with my ballot, my wallet, I have marched, I have "spoken truth to power". I own my life and I can do with it what I feel.

    I have not compromised at all; in fact, I have taken my life, my income, my work, and my capital and put it where my mouth is.

    I have a different opinion - shit, a different LIFE - than you.

    I do not believe de-funding the war is going to help anyone in it - not the Americans, not the Iraqis, nobody - just blowhards like you.

    You judge people by their talk - that's fine. I judge them by actions. You talk a lot.

    You started a capaitalist business that ultimately benefits you.

    Dude, you tried to do the same damn thing. You're a failed businessman turned socialist when convenient. You had a web-based record store that was created as a capitalist endeavor, but alas, no one cared much for 2Mex 12", so it failed miserably.

    Are you mad that you weren't as successful as JP?

    End threadjack.

  • dayday 9,611 Posts




    You walk. I stroll.


    :EYEROLL:

    I think its called the Ronald Shuffle.



    All kidding aside, I think one of the biggest issues here (and, ironically the cause of this discussion) is Robert's refusal to see things as anything but black and white. I know you're not stupid dude. You've gotta see where Paycheeks is coming from here.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    You are calling my character into question.

    I have voted with my ballot, my wallet, I have marched, I have "spoken truth to power". I own my life and I can do with it what I feel.

    I have not compromised at all; in fact, I have taken my life, my income, my work, and my capital and put it where my mouth is.

    I have a different opinion - shit, a different LIFE - than you.

    I do not believe de-funding the war is going to help anyone in it - not the Americans, not the Iraqis, nobody - just blowhards like you.

    You judge people by their talk - that's fine. I judge them by actions. You talk a lot.

    You started a capaitalist business that ultimately benefits you.

    Dude, you tried to do the same damn thing. You're a failed businessman turned socialist when convenient. You had a web-based record store that was created as a capitalist endeavor, but alas, no one cared much for 2Mex 12", so it failed miserably.

    Are you mad that you weren't as successful as JP?

    End threadjack.

    It failed miserably?

    Wrong.

    That was merely a side-gig that stemmed from always seeing 50 cent copies of UGK and BG records laying about the Bay with hardly anyone there interested in ever picking them up. I made all sorts of extra scratch off of flipping those records.

    At the same time, I was wokring full time for a non-profit that raised millions upon millions of dollars in scholarship funds for kids in the San Francisco area.

    Once my wife and I decided to move from the Bay...thus no more access to the 50 cent records...I shut down the website.

    But I guess in your fantasy world, I lost hundreds of thousands of dollars and went bankrupt and now cry whenever I happen upon a more successful record dealer.

    Are your perceptions really that dictated by your own projections?

    Oh yes, they are...and I've know this for like 12 years.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts




    You walk. I stroll.


    :EYEROLL:

    I think its called the Ronald Shuffle.



    All kidding aside, I think one of the biggest issues here and, ironically the cause of said discussion, is Robert's refusal to see things as anything but black and white. I know you're not stupid dude. You've gotta see where Paycheeks is coming from here.

    I see it and IMO it's compromised b.s.

    John Kerrey tried to pull the same bullshit. I want to end the war...by escalating the war.

    FUCK THAT!

  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,905 Posts
    You started a capaitalist business that ultimately benefits you.

    I'm lost on this bullshit statement. Take even the most "capitalist" of companies and you can find plenty that benefit from it. Gates & Buffett are giants capitalist pigs and the 2 of them probably do more to help millions around the world that a million of you could ever do.

    I know a dude who was a janitor at a company and because he was there right in the beginning, he was able to get stock options and is now a millionaire.

    Plus, starting a business only ultimately benefits anyone if it's successful.

    But, I understand you hate the world and want it to crash.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    You started a capaitalist business that ultimately benefits you.

    I'm lost on this bullshit statement. Take even the most "capitalist" of companies and you can find plenty that benefit from it. Gates & Buffett are giants and the 2 of them probably do more to help millions around the world that a million of you could ever do.

    I know a dude who was a janitor at a company and because he was there right in the beginning, he was able to get stock options and is now a millionaire.

    Plus, starting a business only ultimately benefits anyone if it's successful.

    But, I understand you hate the world and want it to crash.

    Yes, when we steal your oil (and poppy) fields in the name of capitalism...it's for the benefit of all.

  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,905 Posts
    You started a capaitalist business that ultimately benefits you.

    I'm lost on this bullshit statement. Take even the most "capitalist" of companies and you can find plenty that benefit from it. Gates & Buffett are giants and the 2 of them probably do more to help millions around the world that a million of you could ever do.

    I know a dude who was a janitor at a company and because he was there right in the beginning, he was able to get stock options and is now a millionaire.

    Plus, starting a business only ultimately benefits anyone if it's successful.

    But, I understand you hate the world and want it to crash.

    Yes, when we steal your oil (and poppy) fields in the name of capitalism...it's for the benefit of all.

    So Johnny's capitalism ultimately is really[/b] just a front to take advantage of others for personal gain.

  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    You are calling my character into question.

    I have voted with my ballot, my wallet, I have marched, I have "spoken truth to power". I own my life and I can do with it what I feel.

    I have not compromised at all; in fact, I have taken my life, my income, my work, and my capital and put it where my mouth is.

    I have a different opinion - shit, a different LIFE - than you.

    I do not believe de-funding the war is going to help anyone in it - not the Americans, not the Iraqis, nobody - just blowhards like you.

    You judge people by their talk - that's fine. I judge them by actions. You talk a lot.

    You started a capaitalist business that ultimately benefits you.

    Dude, you tried to do the same damn thing. You're a failed businessman turned socialist when convenient. You had a web-based record store that was created as a capitalist endeavor, but alas, no one cared much for 2Mex 12", so it failed miserably.

    Are you mad that you weren't as successful as JP?

    End threadjack.

    It failed miserably?

    Wrong.

    That was merely a side-gig that stemmed from always seeing 50 cent copies of UGK and BG records laying about the Bay with hardly anyone there interested in ever picking them up. I made all sorts of extra scratch off of flipping those records.

    At the same time, I was wokring full time for a non-profit that raised millions upon millions of dollars in scholarship funds for kids in the San Francisco area.

    Once my wife and I decided to move from the Bay...thus no more access to the 50 cent records...I shut down the website.

    But I guess in your fantasy world, I lost hundreds of thousands of dollars and went bankrupt and now cry whenever I happen upon a more successful record dealer.

    Are your perceptions really that dictated by your own projections?

    Oh yes, they are...and I've know this for like 12 years.

    The site was up and down within about 4 months and there was no UGK/BG it was more like Haiku de tat 12" or other Blowed related shit that wasn't moving. You didn't shut it down, it went down because you didn't pay your host. It was on blast all over crowdcontrolrecords.com's board back in the day. Please, fool. No need to lie.

    Either way, you're a hypocrite for trying to call out someone for being a self-serving capitalist. But we already knew that. You're an act, a spectacle for the sake of being a spectacle. NAGL, but whatever you gotta do to raise your self-esteem...

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    You started a capaitalist business that ultimately benefits you.

    I'm lost on this bullshit statement. Take even the most "capitalist" of companies and you can find plenty that benefit from it. Gates & Buffett are giants and the 2 of them probably do more to help millions around the world that a million of you could ever do.

    I know a dude who was a janitor at a company and because he was there right in the beginning, he was able to get stock options and is now a millionaire.

    Plus, starting a business only ultimately benefits anyone if it's successful.

    But, I understand you hate the world and want it to crash.

    Yes, when we steal your oil (and poppy) fields in the name of capitalism...it's for the benefit of all.

    So Johnny's capitalism ultimately is really[/b] just a front to take advantage of others for personal gain.

    No, it's not a front nor do I think he's out to take advantage of anyone outright. But I would think that personal gain is certainly an inherent and most likely a focal part of his operation...and thus it's not the best example of look-at-the-good-I'm-doing-for-the-world.

    But go ahead and pretend that I'm telling Jonny that he's the devil for opening a record store.

  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts


    But, I understand you hate the world and want it to crash.

    Not so much the world. It's just all self-hate.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts


    The site was up and down within about 4 months and there was no UGK/BG it was more like Haiku de tat 12" or other Blowed related shit that wasn't moving. You didn't shut it down, it went down because you didn't pay your host. It was on blast all over crowdcontrolrecords.com's board back in the day. Please, fool. No need to lie.

    I'm not lying at all. It was up for about a year or so. Everyone who ever contributed to the site got paid in full for their efforts. Most of the records I sold off of that site never got listed on the site as I had wantlists for all sorts of dudes that had me sending packages of 50+ records on the regular. The only thing you got right is that when I was done with the site, I stopped payng for the hosting...intentionally.

    And okay fine, you are still the same dirtbag I've always known you to be...thanks for reminding me.

  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,905 Posts
    You started a capaitalist business that ultimately benefits you.

    I'm lost on this bullshit statement. Take even the most "capitalist" of companies and you can find plenty that benefit from it. Gates & Buffett are giants and the 2 of them probably do more to help millions around the world that a million of you could ever do.

    I know a dude who was a janitor at a company and because he was there right in the beginning, he was able to get stock options and is now a millionaire.

    Plus, starting a business only ultimately benefits anyone if it's successful.

    But, I understand you hate the world and want it to crash.

    Yes, when we steal your oil (and poppy) fields in the name of capitalism...it's for the benefit of all.

    So Johnny's capitalism ultimately is really[/b] just a front to take advantage of others for personal gain.

    No, it's not a front nor do I think he's out to take advantage of anyone outright. But I would think that personal gain is certainly an inherent and most likely a focal part of his operation...and thus it's not the best example of look-at-the-good-I'm-doing-for-the-world.

    But go ahead and pretend that I'm telling Jonny that he's the devil for opening a record store.



    You were the one that tried to pull the moral high ground on some

    You started a capaitalist business that ultimately benefits you. I started a non-profit foundation that ultimately benefits kids who need and want their educations to be augmented with lessons that their schools aren't giving them.

    You say your against the war, but disagree with pulling funding as a means of ending that war. I say I'm agaainst the war and agree with anything that will keep one more bullet from flying.

    You vote for fully compromised candidates. I don't.

    You walk. I stroll.



    Just because you had a weak ass argument in the first place. But then, that what you do I suppose.

  • shitzrshitzr 648 Posts
    You are calling my character into question.

    I have voted with my ballot, my wallet, I have marched, I have "spoken truth to power". I own my life and I can do with it what I feel.

    I have not compromised at all; in fact, I have taken my life, my income, my work, and my capital and put it where my mouth is.

    I have a different opinion - shit, a different LIFE - than you.

    I do not believe de-funding the war is going to help anyone in it - not the Americans, not the Iraqis, nobody - just blowhards like you.

    You judge people by their talk - that's fine. I judge them by actions. You talk a lot.

    You started a capaitalist business that ultimately benefits you.

    Dude, you tried to do the same damn thing. You're a failed businessman turned socialist when convenient. You had a web-based record store that was created as a capitalist endeavor, but alas, no one cared much for 2Mex 12", so it failed miserably.

    Are you mad that you weren't as successful as JP?

    End threadjack.

    It failed miserably?

    Wrong.

    That was merely a side-gig that stemmed from always seeing 50 cent copies of UGK and BG records laying about the Bay with hardly anyone there interested in ever picking them up. I made all sorts of extra scratch off of flipping those records.

    At the same time, I was wokring full time for a non-profit that raised millions upon millions of dollars in scholarship funds for kids in the San Francisco area.

    Once my wife and I decided to move from the Bay...thus no more access to the 50 cent records...I shut down the website.

    But I guess in your fantasy world, I lost hundreds of thousands of dollars and went bankrupt and now cry whenever I happen upon a more successful record dealer.

    Are your perceptions really that dictated by your own projections?

    Oh yes, they are...and I've know this for like 12 years.

    The site was up and down within about 4 months and there was no UGK/BG it was more like Haiku de tat 12" or other Blowed related shit that wasn't moving. You didn't shut it down, it went down because you didn't pay your host. It was on blast all over crowdcontrolrecords.com's board back in the day. Please, fool. No need to lie.

    Either way, you're a hypocrite for trying to call out someone for being a self-serving capitalist. But we already knew that. You're an act, a spectacle for the sake of being a spectacle. NAGL, but whatever you gotta do to raise your self-esteem...

    was this foolblown?

  • Birdman9Birdman9 5,417 Posts


    Don't y'all aver regret your COMPLICITY?


    Do you ever regret your self-righteousness?

    How can you regret something you did not manufacture, but has grown all around us, left right and center? How do you justify your arrogance to speak to our complicity?

    Why is it always someone else's fault that you benefit from the evils of the US government?

    I mean, so do I...and my aim here isn't to look down on anyone for what I see as falling short. Y'all in whatever ways are my peers and I kinda expect y'all to be at least somehwere in the same ballpark as me and people I know and/or know of who simply refuse to tie our lifeboats to a sinking ship.

    DISTANCE YOURSELF FROM WHAT YOU YOURSELF (AT LEAST ON ONE HAND WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT FOR YOU) RECOGNIZES AS BULLSHIT OR YOU TOO ARE BULLSHIT!

    So, in other words, your self-righteousness knows no boundaries.
    Glad you have all the answers.

    Hoo-Frickin'-ray for you, dude.

  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts


    The site was up and down within about 4 months and there was no UGK/BG it was more like Haiku de tat 12" or other Blowed related shit that wasn't moving. You didn't shut it down, it went down because you didn't pay your host. It was on blast all over crowdcontrolrecords.com's board back in the day. Please, fool. No need to lie.

    I'm not lying at all. It was up for about a year or so. Everyone who ever contributed to the site got paid in full for their efforts. Most of the records I sold off of that site never got listed on the site as I had wantlists for all sorts of dudes that had me sending packages of 50+ records on the regular. The only thing you got right is that when I was done with the site, I stopped payng for the hosting...intentionally.

    And okay fine, you are still the same dirtbag I've always known you to be...thanks for reminding me.

    not even the point. Can you respond to the assessment that you are a hypocrite?

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts


    Either way, you're a hypocrite for trying to call out someone for being a self-serving capitalist. But we already knew that. You're an act, a spectacle for the sake of being a spectacle. NAGL, but whatever you gotta do to raise your self-esteem...

    I called a capitalist business owner out for saying he's against the war but not following it through by being as against the war as I believe anyone claiming that position should be.

    At the end of the day, I'm confident that Jonny and I can work this disagreement out and still mainitain full respect for each other...no matter how heated we seem to get in the process.

    But someone like you who thinks he can correct me on shit that you have no clue on. And this whole my-internet-persona-is-an-act shit...you know this because we've spent so much time together over the past 10+ years, right? I think I've had maybe 2 or 3 face-to-face conversations with you ever...and the first one of those started with you screaming like an asshole at me for dissing your little friends. Point being, you don't know me at all. And while I've appreciated the times by way of this board that you have momentarily pretended to put aside your bullshit in relation to me, I see that putting it aside is actually impossible for you.

    But that's alright, my bad...I should have known.

  • GaryGary 3,982 Posts
    Every week a thread goes to 20 pages because people want to yell at a brick wall.



    crazy people don't know they are crazy. thats what makes them crazy.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    You are calling my character into question.

    I have voted with my ballot, my wallet, I have marched, I have "spoken truth to power". I own my life and I can do with it what I feel.

    I have not compromised at all; in fact, I have taken my life, my income, my work, and my capital and put it where my mouth is.

    I have a different opinion - shit, a different LIFE - than you.

    I do not believe de-funding the war is going to help anyone in it - not the Americans, not the Iraqis, nobody - just blowhards like you.

    You judge people by their talk - that's fine. I judge them by actions. You talk a lot.

    You started a capaitalist business that ultimately benefits you.

    Dude, you tried to do the same damn thing. You're a failed businessman turned socialist when convenient. You had a web-based record store that was created as a capitalist endeavor, but alas, no one cared much for 2Mex 12", so it failed miserably.

    Are you mad that you weren't as successful as JP?

    End threadjack.

    It failed miserably?

    Wrong.

    That was merely a side-gig that stemmed from always seeing 50 cent copies of UGK and BG records laying about the Bay with hardly anyone there interested in ever picking them up. I made all sorts of extra scratch off of flipping those records.

    At the same time, I was wokring full time for a non-profit that raised millions upon millions of dollars in scholarship funds for kids in the San Francisco area.

    Once my wife and I decided to move from the Bay...thus no more access to the 50 cent records...I shut down the website.

    But I guess in your fantasy world, I lost hundreds of thousands of dollars and went bankrupt and now cry whenever I happen upon a more successful record dealer.

    Are your perceptions really that dictated by your own projections?

    Oh yes, they are...and I've know this for like 12 years.

    The site was up and down within about 4 months and there was no UGK/BG it was more like Haiku de tat 12" or other Blowed related shit that wasn't moving. You didn't shut it down, it went down because you didn't pay your host. It was on blast all over crowdcontrolrecords.com's board back in the day. Please, fool. No need to lie.

    Either way, you're a hypocrite for trying to call out someone for being a self-serving capitalist. But we already knew that. You're an act, a spectacle for the sake of being a spectacle. NAGL, but whatever you gotta do to raise your self-esteem...

    was this foolblown?

    No, it was called Waxfanatix.

  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts


    Either way, you're a hypocrite for trying to call out someone for being a self-serving capitalist. But we already knew that. You're an act, a spectacle for the sake of being a spectacle. NAGL, but whatever you gotta do to raise your self-esteem...

    I called a capitalist business owner out for saying he's against the war but not follow it through by being as against the war as I believe anyone claiming that position should be.

    At the end of the day, I'm confident that Jonny and I can work this disagreement out and still manitain full respect for each other...no matter how heated we seem to get in the process.

    But someone like you who thinks he can correct me on shit that you have no clue on. And this whole my-internet-persona-is-an-act shit...you know this because we've spent so much time together over the past 10+ years, right?

    I was wrong then, you are a piece of shit.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts


    The site was up and down within about 4 months and there was no UGK/BG it was more like Haiku de tat 12" or other Blowed related shit that wasn't moving. You didn't shut it down, it went down because you didn't pay your host. It was on blast all over crowdcontrolrecords.com's board back in the day. Please, fool. No need to lie.

    I'm not lying at all. It was up for about a year or so. Everyone who ever contributed to the site got paid in full for their efforts. Most of the records I sold off of that site never got listed on the site as I had wantlists for all sorts of dudes that had me sending packages of 50+ records on the regular. The only thing you got right is that when I was done with the site, I stopped payng for the hosting...intentionally.

    And okay fine, you are still the same dirtbag I've always known you to be...thanks for reminding me.

    not even the point. Can you respond to the assessment that you are a hypocrite?

    I don't have a problem with any Congressmen voting against funding the war...so I don't know where you are getting "hypocrite" from.

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts

    No, it was called Waxfanatix.

    Whoaaa.....10 letters starting with a "W" and ending in "X"...do you know the International and possibly Inter-galactic consequences that could have resulted from this?

    I would think that you, of all people, would have known better.

    You're lucky you got out when you did.


  • So who's this Obama guy?

  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,475 Posts
    So who's this Obama guy?

    A commie muslim Manchurian candidate who will force everybody to either become a terrorist or have their head chopped off.

  • You are calling my character into question.

    I have voted with my ballot, my wallet, I have marched, I have "spoken truth to power". I own my life and I can do with it what I feel.

    I have not compromised at all; in fact, I have taken my life, my income, my work, and my capital and put it where my mouth is.

    I have a different opinion - shit, a different LIFE - than you.

    I do not believe de-funding the war is going to help anyone in it - not the Americans, not the Iraqis, nobody - just blowhards like you.

    You judge people by their talk - that's fine. I judge them by actions. You talk a lot.

    You started a capaitalist business that ultimately benefits you.

    Dude, you tried to do the same damn thing. You're a failed businessman turned socialist when convenient. You had a web-based record store that was created as a capitalist endeavor, but alas, no one cared much for 2Mex 12", so it failed miserably.

    Are you mad that you weren't as successful as JP?

    End threadjack.

    It failed miserably?

    Wrong.

    That was merely a side-gig that stemmed from always seeing 50 cent copies of UGK and BG records laying about the Bay with hardly anyone there interested in ever picking them up. I made all sorts of extra scratch off of flipping those records.

    At the same time, I was wokring full time for a non-profit that raised millions upon millions of dollars in scholarship funds for kids in the San Francisco area.

    Once my wife and I decided to move from the Bay...thus no more access to the 50 cent records...I shut down the website.

    But I guess in your fantasy world, I lost hundreds of thousands of dollars and went bankrupt and now cry whenever I happen upon a more successful record dealer.

    Are your perceptions really that dictated by your own projections?

    Oh yes, they are...and I've know this for like 12 years.

    wait, what is carpetbagging exactly? cuz this sounds suspiciously similar.

  • JONNY PAYCHECKS IS THE JOE KELLER OF OUR TIME!!![/b]
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