Phill Most Chill - The Be Intelligent EP
sloppywhite
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Just got the email on this from Diggers With Gratitude.Limited to 100 copies.a-side1: Be Intelligent (vocal)2: Be Intelligent (instrumental)b-side3: Release Yourself (vocal)4: On Tempo Jack (instrumental)5: Accept No Substitution (vocal) - bonus raw dusty edit from Phill's personal acetate!AD:http://www.diggerswithgratitude.com/projects/images/forum_advert.jpghttp://www.diggerswithgratitude.com/projects/test/audio/pmc_snippet.mp3Damn Phil!Shit sounds 
At 45 pounds (about $85 bones), i'll have to sell some shit this weekend to get ready.Nice one, Rare Dave!!!
At 45 pounds (about $85 bones), i'll have to sell some shit this weekend to get ready.Nice one, Rare Dave!!!
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If I pick one up, can I get it autographed by you Phill??
You gotta sign it sayin' "THAT REAL SCHITT"
With maybe a letter of authenticity which is only a txt of the log from a SoulSeek convo!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, I think the plan is that only the 1st 25 are getting them signed by yours truly (time permitting, I plan on doing hand drawn artwork on each sleeve... gotta look out for the true random rap collectros). I don't know if my DWG hommies would be cool with me signing any others beyond those 1st 25- angering the true random rap collectros is probably
for the true random rap collectros ONLY
sign up for yours now if any are left... it can only be a great investment, plaese believe me
This is disappointing. I would've expected better than hypebeast style forced exclusivity from the Most Chill one.
But i might still buy a copy.
hey, if you want to sign me to a six figure deal to release thousands upon thousands of $4.99 copies of all my unreleased real schitt from 1989 I'm all for it!
I like the exclusivity factor anyway. Regardless, I'm sure it won't take long for the record to be ripped to MP3 and available for free to everyone on earth who has an internet connection.
why not press 500 and have 100 copies signed. It's still limited anyway and will probably cost you the same amount. Plus lowering the cost from something less ridiculous than $45.
You know most kids buying this will be more gassed up about the 100 copies pressed than the actual music. You're lying to yourself if you can't admit to this.
Phil, the music is dope btw.
...and it's $85
...plus shipping
...in a die-cut sleeve
...with a sticker.
No doubt, but that is the way of the collectro in most respects, is it not?
What you have to take into account is the profit-making side of this (and dave and / or chris, feel free to chime in on this since this is a DWG project and maybe I shouldn't really be the one speaking in defense of the record). Selling 100 copies direct is a lot easier, even at $85 a pop, than selling 500 on your own. When you bring a distributor into the picture... well, I'm sure many of you know the pitfalls of dealing with a distributor. At the end of the day you want to see a return on your investment, even if it's only a relatively modest return. As I said previously, I would love to be able to press up countless thousands of Phill Most Chill unreleased 1989 12"s and sell them at the current going rate for a 12". I'm very happy that there seems to be a good amount of people who'd be interested in such a thing in 2006, but who knows exactly how many people would actually run out and buy a vinyl pressing in this era of Microwave and Soulseek? It is what it is, mane. If you're a true random rap collectro, cop that limited edition pressing. If you're just a smart investor, cop that limited edition pressing. If you just want the music, wait for it to hit the 'Seek. It's all pretty simple, no need to throw salt in the game, salty strutters.
Thank you. So I will take your post as an endorsement and not as an act of soulstrut sabotage (which is punishable by death or something that's equally unpleasant)
Well cotdamn!!! Did the moderator put that "Microwave" in there that quick at 4 a.m. or does it automatically change to that when you type in s*r*to??? Soulstrut is so full of funny hijinks! (well... full of something, anyway)
I won't intentionally speak defensively, as we still think it was the right move to do. We've sold 70 copies already in three days with NO promotion, so those figures kinda put our worrying minds to rest.
We had several options when releasing this record. Might as well break down the process as much as I can from the top, so you can decide whether or not this is a 'hypebeast' move, as some have put it.
About a year ago, Phill let one of us hear the audio of some of his older cuts. This blew minds: we wanted to know if it was coming out, as we felt it truly deserved to put on wax. Early reports suggested not, so we thought it'd be a perfect release for the first on our DWG imprint.
Having asked around (distributors), it's unlikely (as incredible as the music is) we'd have sold out of 500 copies very quickly - and none of us have space to have a few hundred extra records sitting around in boxes while they trickle out. People just don't buy independent hip-hop vinyl in the same capacity that they used to. With enough other people willing to press up thousands of copies of things, we felt that wasn't right for us.
We looked at a super-limited run just for a few of us to have as a 'private press' - maybe a test pressing only run of 10-20 copies - but for a slightly greater pressing cost (almost) we could do a run of 100. That meant that more people could own it and it'd be cheaper to sell. After checking with Phill that was OK with him, we looked at the options for making a decent quality press. Good mastering - check. Nice label - check. Quality vinyl - check. Vinyl sticker cover - check.
Then we costed it up. Now, pressing up in the US or wherever might be really cheap, but pressing up an EP in the UK isn't - and unless you know somewhere that deals with free shipping, it just wasn't an option.
By pressing 100, we could make sure we covered our costs and actually pay Phill, regardless of whether all the copies sold out. Any profits go back into future projects, which we are already planning.
Now, add to these factors that the three of us all have full time jobs (and not in the music industry). Sitting hunched over a computer fielding emails, dealing with the mastering guys, the pressing plant, the sticker printers, designing the artwork, setting up graphics and stuff for the website, writing the one-sheet... it all take a lot of time. Wives became mad, children left home, pets self-combusted... it's been a time-consuming project.
The point was, if we got a good record out there and broke even financially, then we were going to be happy enough.
If I felt that this wasn't a good quality product, I would've have kept quiet, but we genuinely think it was worth the effort and expense to get it out there. And, so far, other than a few questions on here, the response has been really good.
As Phill said, if you want the tracks on vinyl, then go ahead and buy a copy. If you're not bothered for whatever reason, I'm sure you'll be able to download the cuts online somewhere soon.
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On that note, we'd like to thank the people on Soulstrut who have bought copies. After Sloppy's initial post, we got a lot of orders, so thank you for that.
And, as always, thanks to Phill for the music. We wouldn't have been inspired or motivated to do this without your talent.
Phill Most x DWG[/b]
That was dope pic!
Can we see that again, Phil?
Dress
This is actually pre-Most Chill, the "Phantastic Philly Phill MC" days
I can dig it, peacefulrotation... I guess most of us have stuff we would like to have but can't get due to financial limitations. Well, as said earlier, it's only a matter of time before Soulseek gets ahold of it, so in one way or another the music WILL be available to whoever wants it. Until then, if you know of anyone who wants to offer a lucrative deal to press up tens of thousands of copies of the next Phill Most Chill 1989 era 12" and sell them for five bucks a pop for all the tens of thousands of kids who buy random rap vinyls in 2006 just holla. I'm ready!
Big up to Phill Most & The DWG crew for making this happen. I'm excited to peep the finished product & hope that we'll be hearing more unreleased ish in the future.
Looks good, Phill. Thanks to you and your colleague DWG for offering the explanation behind the ultra raer limited vibe on this expensive record. Like our friend peacefulrotation, I just won't be able to plop the dough down on this record, but I hope for you that it is a lucrative transaction. You deserve it.
And for people who have sour faces, there are worse things in the world than not being able to own a mega raer random rap 12" from the inimitable phill most chill a.k.a. fantastic philly phill a.k.a. the soulman. if you want the music, you'll get it in due time I'm certain of that. if you want the record badly enough, you know how to get it. fetishes come with a price.
On tempo jack,
JRoot
flat 80s arses
ha ha...
man, you look ready to bust some balls if anyone steps to your ladies!
Managed to catch the cover on the sticky back of the plastic due to being clumsy & half asleep, which took a sliver of the whiteness off. So go careful out there peeps.