Ultrasonic Cleaners (RR)
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I just used one of these in a Physics lab to clean some 45s and it worked great. I just used tap water and dipped the 45 into the ultrasonic cleaner and dirt just started visibly coming off. This was after I used regular record cleaning fluid and a rag.I don't know how this compares to a VPI, but this could possibly be a cheap solution.I used a lab grade ultrasonic cleaner, but has anyone used one of those cheap jewelery ones you can get for around $40? I know you can get smaller lab-grade cleaners for around $200, but if a jewelery one works fine, I'd rather save the money.Also, any suggestions for fluid? Tap water? Purified water? Any special fluids?
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as it's quite time-consuming, i use it mainly for LPs coming from the hot & dusty continents!
i have a big industrial ultrsonic cleaner standing around at my workplace, so... during the breaks...
no special fluid necessary 'cause the ultrawaves to their job properly and dismantling everyting,
all particles that stick in the grooves or on the vinyl (also the labels if they touch the water)!
be sure to use deionized water, this doesn't left anything in the grooves (lime particles) after drying...
in europe the bigger ones (for 12inches) are quite expensive ($400+), don't know how it is over there!
hope i was able to help a bit....
best wishes
Any word on jewelery cleaners? Both of you used lab-grade ultrasonic cleaners yo.
Unfortunately I'm not in a position to spend $40 on testing a jewelery cleaner.
Reynalod?
Someone could make a buck manufacturing these things for record collectors...
(older headz were rocking the jewler models for 7")
i use tap water & an occasional drop of windex or dr bonners but the waves are were the action is
never damaged the vinyl, but don't let it wear off the labels
i think it kicks the shit out of the vip option
Thems fightin words!!
I do want to experiment with one of these things, but it's a bit too labor-intensive for my purposes.
If I could find a cheap one that would be sweet for things that aren't getting fully cleaned by the VPI... I cleaned a latin record the other day that, even after two spins on the vpi, still looked like it had dirt ground into the vinyl... got a 45 like that too.
T. I need to see this in action. You gonna hook me up when I pass through Neckburg?
What's up with the heat setting? Do you use any heat at all or run it cold?
I've had little success with the VPI 45 adaptor kit. Of course, the 45s I'm trying clean have rat piss encrusted petrified BBQ sauce on them.
What do people use to get mold stains off? I removed the mold on some records and while it's not audible , but looking at it, you can see traces of green/brown mold poop on the surface. Bleach? Or will one of these shaky super buckets do it?
And the 45 adaptor kit is indeed close to useless... but does help somewhat. Certainly less successful than the LP/12" work though.
Still and all, I 3 my VPI
Elmer's glue - especially on 45s.
Really though, for 45s, the KAB cleaner works wonders, which was reccomended to me by HAZ. Works far better than the VPI for 45s... and about the same for LPs... though I'd rather be using a VPI for both, cuz its faster and not as noisy.
didnt frank have a picture of an ultrasonic cleaner laced up with some auto-rotater thing in one of the african finds thread?
will those things vibrate the flesh off of your finger?
You'd probably pull your finger out long before the flesh came off--in my experience ultrasonic cleaners produce a sharp burning sensation on your fingers. If anyone's interested, here's my post from the Wax-I-Dermy Thread
I have seen and heard my share of this......
I think it's more of an issue for the sonicator rather than the item being cleaned. Probably the side isn't as bad as the bottom. To quote The Bransonic FAQ
i know a dude who set up such a tinker toy / motor rotating device
one day i would like to be like that dude
link?
Here is a link to the KAB webpage:
http://www.kabusa.com/frameset.htm?/index.htm
The KAB EV1 is based on the Nitty Gritty Record Cleaner; The dude from KAB licenced their basic design & modified it. You hook up an external vac to the EV1 & let her rip. Meatyogre is an EV1 convert and I've used this gizmo for 4 years, with no detrimental effects & my records are as clean as hell.
Here is an old review of the EV1:
http://www.tnt-audio.com/accessories/kabev1_e.html
Kevin Barrett of KAB is dude & sells lots of cool stuff for Technics turntables. He's one of the most personable & knowledgable folks I've met in the audio game.
peace
h
I'd imagine that the vacuum component is one of the reasons machines like the VPI are more expensive...
Haz: what cleaning solution do you use with it?
The vacuum component built in pushes the price of the nitty grity up to 400 bucks for some of the lower end models. I really like not having the vacuum built into the machine. I have greater control over the suction. I have a 12 amp vac that I use around the house that I usually hook up to it. It gets the job done. I know some guys who hook up mega shop-vacs to it, but its not recommended. I do like having the control over the strength of the vacuum - its easily twice as powerful as the 16.5 VPI. I don't see the additional suction causing any wear to my records & believe me, I'm prolly the pickiest person on this site when it comes to grading bar none. This will clean anything & make your records sound waaaaayy better than anything else on the market, short of the VPI Typhoon, Keith Monks, Loricraft, or Clearaudio Matrix, which will run you between 2,000 & 5,000. I've tried them all. Best analog bargain for your money. KAB also sells great cartridges for technics along with some cool accessories for 1200's, like silicone tonearm dampners. Here is a review for a souped up 1200:
http://www.tnt-audio.com/sorgenti/technics_sl1200_2_e.html
There are some great articles on the KAB site about the design of the 1200. Audio people often sneer at it, but I think its a better turntable than people give it credit for.
O-Dub - Crazy to see that the price went up! I use a home brew cleaing solution of distilled water, high grade alcohol & ivory soap to clean my records. I do a rince with the distilled water to make sure that the fluid is washed off. I've used fancy cleaning solutions before. They did the job, but my home brew does the same at a fraction of the cost.
peace
h