why do YOU think HIP HOP DIED?????
Digger_Phelps_II
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just wondering what the opinions on here are, seeing as this is one of the more opinionated boards i visit. i've heard a sh*tload of reasons, some i agree with and some i dont (and some people feel it aint dead either). just wanted to hear(compile?) opinions from the soulstrut board. i just read an online interview with prince paul who felt that the sampling laws killed hip hop (which i disagee with but its just one of many opinions).......this thread would like to hear from YOU!
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hate to quote a backpack king on this one but..
"the ones who are most nostalgic are the ones who never even a part of it"
Was gonna post the picture of his album.
For me personally i became much less interested when he started happening. i was already hunting down what really mattered to me, so i can't even say that he led to me looking deeper into the music for what i liked most. i think i was 16 or 17 when he put out his CD out.
IMO
-sampling laws
-hova retiring
-emergence of southern dominance
-lack of indy labels
-bootlegging/downloading
-REAL gangstas coming into hip hop!
-hip hop was the next "disco"!
-hip hop becoming a "business"
-g-unit!
-overpopulation
-commercialism
-"if you dont know where you came from........"
-"diddy is the anti-christ"
When Primo paid for weed by letting Fat Joe rhyme on a track.
When Goodfellas hit Nas's VCR.
When Jay-Z first had a reason to laugh "ha ha".
When Biggie rented that speedboat.
Doesn't mean its dead, though; Long live TI, and next year's version of TI, and the one after that...
There will always be more teenagers to discover it. Hence, it will always live. You just might not care anymore.
Umm, wasn't Father MC trying to be BDK???
This is great.
For me, i identify a lot of this with the time period in which i stopped paying as much attention. Part of it too that was sort of a big blow was that i was the first guy to defended hip hop (in my own high school, get on my level, little guy way) to people who were hating on it. i always tried to explain the brilliance behind it and then to see it become watered down, comical, and about beats that go bip, blip, and boinnng, was just kind of a let down to me.
At the same time there are as many people that love what i hate that i hate what they love, so really its all personal which is what being a fan is. i'm never gonna drop a record or play in a band so all i can comment is on how i connect.
genres become parodies of themselves. too many people trying to be down, too many trying to cash in on a trend.
thankfully there is more to hip hop than many other genres so it has some underlying sustainability and authenticity. as in any great art form, valid artists remain even as the genre is sinking.
...but don't feel bad about it, it is the natural order of things.
this is brilliant!
I'm getting anxious for the next really change.
At this point, hip-hop/rap is essentially Black music with a rhythmic spoken delivery, as opposed to a sung one--there are so many variations, that more precise definitions are impossible.
Certain variations will pass in and out of style or will exhaust their creative possibilities, but why is it inevitable that such a broad form would ever die?
Is "singing" going to die?
You dudes kill me.
frankly i am really quite impressed that hip hop has sustained as long as it has. all genres die. changing times man. you don't see people rolling in top hats with beards anymore do you?
Oh, please, school me on the difference between rap and hip-hop, dude. GTFOOWTBS.
there are still good records coming out in all of these genres.