No. Some of it in high school from people's cars. Mostly I am just like deathly opposed to the Deftones on principals of Jncos and the way that dude holds the microphone
No. Some of it in high school from people's cars. Mostly I am just like deathly opposed to the Deftones on principals of Jncos and the way that dude holds the microphone
like i said this record is pretty much an anomaly compared to the rest of their catalog (which i agree is complete shit). it's dark, almost proggy, with only the slightest hint of aggro rap rocky whatever the fuck. it's not mindblowing or anything, but it's a good rock record.
i guess it wasn't selling well, so they recorded "back to school", which was a complete regression and a remix of one of the albums other tracks, and rereleased it. then the self titled follow up was pretty much more crappy jnco rock.
I had ATLiens but never really, really listened to it. Aquemini was the first Outkast album I sat with so I probably do fall into the category you're talking about.
I still like it more than Stankonia tho'. I'm sure if I had super Southernplayistic... I would have rolled with that since I'm mui into the singles off that album.
I had ATLiens but never really, really listened to it. Aquemini was the first Outkast album I sat with so I probably do fall into the category you're talking about.
I still like it more than Stankonia tho'. I'm sure if I had super Southernplayistic... I would have rolled with that since I'm mui into the singles off that album.
You don't have Southernplayalistic? If not, you gotta get that...one of my favorite rap albums ever.
is the art of the album dead? is it the downloading? why am i starting to miss the 90's so much? where are this decades "illmatics, dummys, neverminds, entroducings, ok computers"?
am i getting old?
We're all getting old, and it becomes too easy to get bitter about what was great, so we feel a need to seek something a bit more powerful and/or unique. Like a McGriddle.
If we're talking hip-hop, there have been a hell of a lot of albums in the last four years that are great, that look at the "art of the album" and take it seriously.
Dunno if I'd say these are the best of the millennium, as some could be classics and some never will be, but I'm digging these 2000+ releases, and know for a fact that they are better than Matchbox 20.
Antibalas: LIBERATION AFRO-BEAT Joe Bataan: CALL MY NAME Blue Van: THE ART OF ROLLING Jay-Z: THE BLUEPRINT Jay-Z: THE BLACK ALBUM Sharon Jones & The Dap-Kings: NATURALLY Kanye West: COLLEGE DROPOUT W.I.T.: WHATEVER IT TAKES The Faint: DANSE MACABRE Two Dollar Pistols: YOU RUINED EVERYTHING The Bravery: s/t The Donnas: SPEND THE NIGHT Primal Scream: EVIL HEAT Primal Scream: XTRMNTR M.I.A.: ARULAR Juggy D: s/t Gang Starr: THE OWNERZ Out Hud: LET US NEVER SPEAK OF IT AGAIN Franz Ferdinand: s/t Fiery Furnaces: EP Blonde Redhead: MISERY IS A BUTTERFLY Shawn Lee's Ping Pong Orchestra: VOL. 1
There's more I'm sure (for example I still need to listen to THE B.COMING and BEAUTY AND THE BEAT a few more times before I can put them on the list). Also there's lots of albums I haven't heard like THE FIX and LORD WILLING that I'd probably like if I knew them better. I any event, not a bad group of albums for a jaded 35 year-old to still enjoy.
I had ATLiens but never really, really listened to it. Aquemini was the first Outkast album I sat with so I probably do fall into the category you're talking about.
I still like it more than Stankonia tho'. I'm sure if I had super Southernplayistic... I would have rolled with that since I'm mui into the singles off that album.
You don't have Southernplayalistic? If not, you gotta get that...one of my favorite rap albums ever.
Faux,
I own it but only on vinyl and only after many, many years after it came out. I need to just burn it to CD and sit with it.
If we're talking hip-hop, there have been a hell of a lot of albums in the last four years that are great, that look at the "art of the album" and take it seriously.
But why is this a neccessary trait for a great album? I know faux wants to talk rockism, I think this is the most inane rockist concept I've ever heard. Honestly, the "art of the album" is having a bunch of great songs together. look at most classic hip hop albums, they're not high concept, they're just a bunch of great party records (the only obvious exception would be De La). Were Eric B & Rakim looking at "The Art Of The Album"? Tribe? NWA? Nah they went to the studio and when they had 12 dope tracks they put it out. Look at illmatic - legend has it that the sequencing of that record was more or less the order in which it was recorded (except for "halftime")
I mean I love I>A Book of Human Language/I> as much as the next man, but I think only a few artists are equipped to do something like that well. I couldn't imagine The Clipse trying to make a record that focuses on "the art of the album".
Is "nigga" something a cracker puts on the front page of his website?
not that this has anything to do with this thread, but i'll address it anyway...
i don't know man, i had some apprehensions about putting that up, but i had assumed most people would be familar with the context, i guess i sometimes over estimate my audience. for those unaware, it's a word for word quote from an ice-t intro. i would be less than comfortable censoring a historically outspoken like the iceman. i am equally uncomfortable putting the word "nigga" on my front page. but i think properly addresses the content of the music i write about, so i went with it.
it's not a word i say in the real world (or on the internet, for that matter). if it offends anyone it was not my intent. would it be less offensive if i were to put it in quotes and properly cite it's author?
Nice site, the intro graphics are nice. It's always a good idea to credit sources. I wouldn't want you to do anything that would ruin the intro graphicly. Since the word is likely to come up in your site via titles and lyrics you might as well leave it up as a warning. Like it says, if you are offend get the fuck out.
No. Some of it in high school from people's cars. Mostly I am just like deathly opposed to the Deftones on principals of Jncos and the way that dude holds the microphone
Speaking of JNCOs, who here wore BOSS clothes? I know somebody did, I've still got my XXL t-shirt that says BOSS[/b] across the front, and a pair of jeans that say B O S S [/b] down the leg.
I tried searching for it on google and couldn't find anything. ... All I know is that post-mid-90s that was the shizzle.
No. Some of it in high school from people's cars. Mostly I am just like deathly opposed to the Deftones on principals of Jncos and the way that dude holds the microphone
Speaking of JNCOs, who here wore BOSS clothes?
I believe NateBizzo still wears clothes that prominently feature the word PIMP[/b].
If we're talking hip-hop, there have been a hell of a lot of albums in the last four years that are great, that look at the "art of the album" and take it seriously.
But why is this a neccessary trait for a great album? I know faux wants to talk rockism, I think this is the most inane rockist concept I've ever heard. Honestly, the "art of the album" is having a bunch of great songs together. look at most classic hip hop albums, they're not high concept, they're just a bunch of great party records (the only obvious exception would be De La). Were Eric B & Rakim looking at "The Art Of The Album"? Tribe? NWA? Nah they went to the studio and when they had 12 dope tracks they put it out. Look at illmatic - legend has it that the sequencing of that record was more or less the order in which it was recorded (except for "halftime")
I mean I love I>A Book of Human Language/I> as much as the next man, but I think only a few artists are equipped to do something like that well. I couldn't imagine The Clipse trying to make a record that focuses on "the art of the album".
Nas, I have to disagree with you here - or maybe we're just talking about different things.
I don't advocative for hip-hop to try to straight up replicate AOR (Album Oriented Rock) and apply the same aesthetic ideals/traditions to hip-hop.
However, the idea that rap albums are "just a bunch of great party records" put together is hardly the case. You think "Low End Theory" was a bunch of 12"s? "Return of the Boom Bap"? "Straight Outta Compton?" I think since Run DMC came out, rap albums have taken the album format seriously though clearly, the 12" has still been the driving force.
Personally, I've spoken to quite a few rappers for whom sequencing is still a big deal. I don't think an album like "Whut" by Redman was randomly sequenced even if "Illmatic" was (and frankly, I really doubt that "New York State of Mind" just HAPPENED to be first on the CD just b/c it was recorded first.
Nas, I have to disagree with you here - or maybe we're just talking about different things.
I don't advocative for hip-hop to try to straight up replicate AOR (Album Oriented Rock) and apply the same aesthetic ideals/traditions to hip-hop.
However, the idea that rap albums are "just a bunch of great party records" put together is hardly the case. You think "Low End Theory" was a bunch of 12"s? "Return of the Boom Bap"? "Straight Outta Compton?" I think since Run DMC came out, rap albums have taken the album format seriously though clearly, the 12" has still been the driving force.
Personally, I've spoken to quite a few rappers for whom sequencing is still a big deal. I don't think an album like "Whut" by Redman was randomly sequenced even if "Illmatic" was (and frankly, I really doubt that "New York State of Mind" just HAPPENED to be first on the CD just b/c it was recorded first.
Well the illmatic thing was an obviously extreme example. I do tend to think when anybody talks about the "art of making albums", it's probably leaning to the AOR tradition and less to things we take for granted in this day and age, like track sequencing. I obviously don't think tracklistings are just pulled out of a hat (unless you're talking about Common's I>One Day It'll All Make Sense/I>, which had the most arbitrary track order i've ever seen).
you know faux, the other day i heard a vicious rumor that you've been working diligently to fill the gaps in your extensive collection of project blowed affiliated 12"s.
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No. Some of it in high school from people's cars. Mostly I am just like deathly opposed to the Deftones on principals of Jncos and the way that dude holds the microphone
like i said this record is pretty much an anomaly compared to the rest of their catalog (which i agree is complete shit). it's dark, almost proggy, with only the slightest hint of aggro rap rocky whatever the fuck. it's not mindblowing or anything, but it's a good rock record.
i guess it wasn't selling well, so they recorded "back to school", which was a complete regression and a remix of one of the albums other tracks, and rereleased it. then the self titled follow up was pretty much more crappy jnco rock.
I had ATLiens but never really, really listened to it. Aquemini was the first Outkast album I sat with so I probably do fall into the category you're talking about.
I still like it more than Stankonia tho'. I'm sure if I had super Southernplayistic... I would have rolled with that since I'm mui into the singles off that album.
You don't have Southernplayalistic? If not, you gotta get that...one of my favorite rap albums ever.
We're all getting old, and it becomes too easy to get bitter about what was great, so we feel a need to seek something a bit more powerful and/or unique. Like a McGriddle.
If we're talking hip-hop, there have been a hell of a lot of albums in the last four years that are great, that look at the "art of the album" and take it seriously.
Antibalas: LIBERATION AFRO-BEAT
Joe Bataan: CALL MY NAME
Blue Van: THE ART OF ROLLING
Jay-Z: THE BLUEPRINT
Jay-Z: THE BLACK ALBUM
Sharon Jones & The Dap-Kings: NATURALLY
Kanye West: COLLEGE DROPOUT
W.I.T.: WHATEVER IT TAKES
The Faint: DANSE MACABRE
Two Dollar Pistols: YOU RUINED EVERYTHING
The Bravery: s/t
The Donnas: SPEND THE NIGHT
Primal Scream: EVIL HEAT
Primal Scream: XTRMNTR
M.I.A.: ARULAR
Juggy D: s/t
Gang Starr: THE OWNERZ
Out Hud: LET US NEVER SPEAK OF IT AGAIN
Franz Ferdinand: s/t
Fiery Furnaces: EP
Blonde Redhead: MISERY IS A BUTTERFLY
Shawn Lee's Ping Pong Orchestra: VOL. 1
There's more I'm sure (for example I still need to listen to THE B.COMING and BEAUTY AND THE BEAT a few more times before I can put them on the list). Also there's lots of albums I haven't heard like THE FIX and LORD WILLING that I'd probably like if I knew them better. I any event, not a bad group of albums for a jaded 35 year-old to still enjoy.
Faux,
I own it but only on vinyl and only after many, many years after it came out. I need to just burn it to CD and sit with it.
But why is this a neccessary trait for a great album? I know faux wants to talk rockism, I think this is the most inane rockist concept I've ever heard. Honestly, the "art of the album" is having a bunch of great songs together. look at most classic hip hop albums, they're not high concept, they're just a bunch of great party records (the only obvious exception would be De La). Were Eric B & Rakim looking at "The Art Of The Album"? Tribe? NWA? Nah they went to the studio and when they had 12 dope tracks they put it out. Look at illmatic - legend has it that the sequencing of that record was more or less the order in which it was recorded (except for "halftime")
I mean I love I>A Book of Human Language/I> as much as the next man, but I think only a few artists are equipped to do something like that well. I couldn't imagine The Clipse trying to make a record that focuses on "the art of the album".
Relevant as hair bands in the 80s... ?????
Nice site, the intro graphics are nice. It's always a good idea to credit sources. I wouldn't want you to do anything that would ruin the intro graphicly. Since the word is likely to come up in your site via titles and lyrics you might as well leave it up as a warning. Like it says, if you are offend get the fuck out.
which poison album is their "The Fix"?
Speaking of JNCOs, who here wore BOSS clothes? I know somebody did, I've still got my XXL t-shirt that says
BOSS[/b]
across the front, and a pair of jeans that say
B
O
S
S
[/b]
down the leg.
I tried searching for it on google and couldn't find anything. ... All I know is that post-mid-90s that was the shizzle.
Ha! Not really. I was doing that sh!t before Kelefa Sanneh's Times piece, but it is now passe.
In 5/05 I'm just calling a poptart a poptart.
I believe NateBizzo still wears clothes that prominently feature the word PIMP[/b].
Nas, I have to disagree with you here - or maybe we're just talking about different things.
I don't advocative for hip-hop to try to straight up replicate AOR (Album Oriented Rock) and apply the same aesthetic ideals/traditions to hip-hop.
However, the idea that rap albums are "just a bunch of great party records" put together is hardly the case. You think "Low End Theory" was a bunch of 12"s? "Return of the Boom Bap"? "Straight Outta Compton?" I think since Run DMC came out, rap albums have taken the album format seriously though clearly, the 12" has still been the driving force.
Personally, I've spoken to quite a few rappers for whom sequencing is still a big deal. I don't think an album like "Whut" by Redman was randomly sequenced even if "Illmatic" was (and frankly, I really doubt that "New York State of Mind" just HAPPENED to be first on the CD just b/c it was recorded first.
Fauzzle, you're not even a poptart - you're a store brand toaster pastry.
That reminds me of my size 40 Pure Playa jeans that, when you unzipped them, said PLAYA[/b] down the inside fly flap.
Cosign. Outkast pre-Andre-psychosis was dope, dope shit.
Actually, we agree on almost everything except lizard people and the place of Project Blowed in rap history.
And there is one album that was on both of our lists.
Sounds like a love connection, pastry.
Well the illmatic thing was an obviously extreme example. I do tend to think when anybody talks about the "art of making albums", it's probably leaning to the AOR tradition and less to things we take for granted in this day and age, like track sequencing. I obviously don't think tracklistings are just pulled out of a hat (unless you're talking about Common's I>One Day It'll All Make Sense/I>, which had the most arbitrary track order i've ever seen).
Not even funny.
Also how could I forget these?
you know faux, the other day i heard a vicious rumor that you've been working diligently to fill the gaps in your extensive collection of project blowed affiliated 12"s.
has to be
achingly beautiful