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Non-US Prog discussion

NiteKrawler45NiteKrawler45 1,062 Posts
edited November 2005 in Strut Central
Let's talk about non-US prog a bit. (give some recommendations)

Osanna's Milano Calibro 9 is amazing, what else would I get into if I'm down with Osanna?

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  • p_gunnp_gunn 2,284 Posts
    i always thought of prog as more of a UK genre...
  • johmbolayajohmbolaya 4,472 Posts
    Head over to http://www.progarchives.com

    My picks:
    Fruupp
    Battiato
    Quella Vecchia Locanda
  • roistoroisto 881 Posts
    plaese to elaborate.

    I like that Canadian Franck Dervieux LP, Dimension something.
  • NiteKrawler45NiteKrawler45 1,062 Posts
    i always thought of prog as more of a UK genre...

    Yeah I know, but I just want to make sure we talk German, UK, Italian etc.
  • SPlDEYSPlDEY Vegas 3,375 Posts
    If your down with Osanna, you have to be down with Goblin. Who in my opinion is the baddest of all the italian/giallo prog scene.

    Then you have your Museo Rosenbach, il Balleto di bronzo, Banco del Mutuo Soccorso, Metamorfosi (which is technically from rome).. Lots of great Hard stuff in the same vein as Osanna. The problem with Italian prog is it gets confused alot with alot of basic Italian rock. Not complex stuff. But there was so much amazing music from italy in the 70's. I GIGANTI, Le Orme, Alphataurus, Fabio frizzi, Ennio Morricone, Nino Rota, Bruno Nicolai, blah blah blah..

    - spidey
  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
  • SPlDEYSPlDEY Vegas 3,375 Posts
    i always thought of prog as more of a UK genre...

    Yeah I know, but I just want to make sure we talk German, UK, Italian etc.

    Nah, let's skip the easy stuff, and get into Korean, Turkish, and South American.

    - spidey
  • MoSSMoSS 458 Posts
    Let's talk about non-US prog a bit. (give some recommendations)

    Osanna's Milano Calibro 9 is amazing, what else would I get into if I'm down with Osanna?


    Except the fact I got the lp for something I heard in the movie, and alas it wasn't on the fuck'n lp
  • picoandsepulvedapicoandsepulveda 1,026 Posts
    "YS" - Il Balletto di Bronzo (1972)





  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    Thought this might be of interest to someone. The track is from an Icelandic progrock LP released in '72. 1000 - 1500 copies were, supposedly, made.

    N??tt??ra - Since I Found You

  • NiteKrawler45NiteKrawler45 1,062 Posts
    If your down with Osanna, you have to be down with Goblin. Who in my opinion is the baddest of all the italian/giallo prog scene.

    Then you have your Museo Rosenbach, il Balleto di bronzo, Banco del Mutuo Soccorso, Metamorfosi (which is technically from rome).. Lots of great Hard stuff in the same vein as Osanna. The problem with Italian prog is it gets confused alot with alot of basic Italian rock. Not complex stuff. But there was so much amazing music from italy in the 70's. I GIGANTI, Le Orme, Alphataurus, Fabio frizzi, Ennio Morricone, Nino Rota, Bruno Nicolai, blah blah blah..

    - spidey

    Thanks for all those.

    If you have some Korean suggestions, hit us off.
  • NiteKrawler45NiteKrawler45 1,062 Posts
    Thought this might be of interest to someone. The track is from an Icelandic progrock LP released in '72. 1000 - 1500 copies were, supposedly, made.

    N??tt??ra - Since I Found You


    digging on this.
  • CaMKIIaCaMKIIa 269 Posts
    i can get down with goblin.

    and laser, as well as pierrot lunaire and area are great italian bands whose records aren't too hard to come by.
  • SPlDEYSPlDEY Vegas 3,375 Posts
    Thanks for all those.

    If you have some Korean suggestions, hit us off.

    Well, alot of Korean prog is very psych. But you got:

    HE5, HE6, MAGMA (not to be confused with the french Magma*[*which is actually a huge influence on alot of modern japanese bands Ruins, etc..]) San ul lim, Shin Jung Hyun. Need more PM me.

    - spidey
  • robert_murtrobert_murt 338 Posts
    Thanks for all those.

    If you have some Korean suggestions, hit us off.

    Well, alot of Korean prog is very psych. But you got:

    HE5, HE6, MAGMA (not to be confused with the french Magma*[*which is actually a huge influence on alot of modern japanese bands Ruins, etc..]) San ul lim, Shin Jung Hyun. Need more PM me.

    - spidey

    As for France, Magma of course, and a lot from the Zeul movement initiated by the band.
    Lard Free
    Pop Instrumental De France
    I recommend library Maxi Music on Telemusic too.
    Rhesus O
    Cruciferius!
    Nilovic Supra Pop Impression
    William Sheller Lux Aeterna....

  • johmbolayajohmbolaya 4,472 Posts
    These three box sets are coming out of Japan in the next few weeks.



    Nov 30

    ITALIAN ROCK MASTERPIECE COLLECTION VOL. 1 - 10 MINI-LP CD box[/b]

    Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso : Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso

    Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso : Io Sono Nato Libero

    P.F.M. : Storia Di Un Minuto

    P.F.M. : Per Un Amico

    Museo Rosenbach : Zarathustra

    Cervello : Melos

    Quella Vecchia Locanda : Quella Vecchia Locanda

    Quella Vecchia Locanda : Il Tempo Della Gioia

    Formula 3 : Sognando E Risognando

    Formula 3 : La Grande Casa



    Dec 7

    YS Italian Polydor BOX 6 mini lp box[/b]

    Le Orme-Felona Soronna

    Le Orme-Uomo di Pezza

    Locanda delle Fatte

    Balletto di Bronzo-YS

    Latte e Miele- P.s.M.

    Latte e Miele-Papillon



    Dec 10

    MOONMADNESS BOX 5 mini lp box[/b]

    Camel

    Camel-Mirage

    Camel-The Snow Goose

    Camel-Moonmadness

    Camel-Live
  • hammertimehammertime 2,389 Posts
    anyone got an O.G. German Oak LP?
  • Strider79itStrider79it 1,176 Posts


    Camel is
  • Strider79itStrider79it 1,176 Posts
    Lots of great Hard stuff in the same vein as Osanna. The problem with Italian prog is it gets confused alot with alot of basic Italian rock...

    - spidey

    it is because progressive bands never had such strong identity here and it was naturally mixed with "mainstream" rock for the audience........

    for example :
    "pooh" was/is a very lame pop band but their very first album has tracks that could be considered good progressive rock

    ...and let's not forget how PFM in the 2nd part of 70's toured as backing band for Fabrizio de Andr?? (italian popular singer).......
  • SolidState16SolidState16 181 Posts
    anyone got an O.G. German Oak LP?

    Damn, I wish....That and an AR and Machines album.
  • SPlDEYSPlDEY Vegas 3,375 Posts
    These three box sets are coming out of Japan in the next few weeks.

    Nov 30
    ITALIAN ROCK MASTERPIECE COLLECTION VOL. 1 - 10 MINI-LP CD box[/b]
    Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso : Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso
    Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso : Io Sono Nato Libero
    P.F.M. : Storia Di Un Minuto
    P.F.M. : Per Un Amico
    Museo Rosenbach : Zarathustra
    Cervello : Melos
    Quella Vecchia Locanda : Quella Vecchia Locanda
    Quella Vecchia Locanda : Il Tempo Della Gioia
    Formula 3 : Sognando E Risognando
    Formula 3 : La Grande Casa

    Dec 7
    YS Italian Polydor BOX 6 mini lp box[/b]
    Le Orme-Felona Soronna
    Le Orme-Uomo di Pezza
    Locanda delle Fatte
    Balletto di Bronzo-YS
    Latte e Miele- P.s.M.
    Latte e Miele-Papillon

    Dec 10
    MOONMADNESS BOX 5 mini lp box[/b]
    Camel
    Camel-Mirage
    Camel-The Snow Goose
    Camel-Moonmadness
    Camel-Live

    Sounds Awesome. How can I pick this up? I have a video here somewhere of Formula 3 with Stevie wonder on drums.

    - spidey
  • bull_oxbull_ox 5,056 Posts
    Where's Marco???

    Dude has the Russian prog on LOCK...

    Oh, he also gave me a heavily waterdamaged copy of YEAR ONE once but thats American so I suppose it doesn't apply...

    Honestly all the Italian stuff I've heard I thought was super weak, and I'm talking big names too (Formula 3, Le Orme, etc)... then again I'm not really a prog guy...

    I've never seen or heard any OST's, I know thats where the heat is...
  • SPlDEYSPlDEY Vegas 3,375 Posts
    Where's Marco???

    Dude has the Russian prog on LOCK...

    Really?? Where's Marco!!!!


    - spidey
  • hammertimehammertime 2,389 Posts
  • Strider79itStrider79it 1,176 Posts

    Honestly all the Italian stuff I've heard I thought was super weak, and I'm talking big names too (Formula 3, Le Orme, etc)....

    you should go with PFM, Banco del mutuo soccorso, Area .....that's the shit
  • E_DailyE_Daily 812 Posts

    That changeup at 1:55 is
  • bull_oxbull_ox 5,056 Posts
    you should go with PFM, Banco del mutuo soccorso, Area .....that's the shit

    Don't like PFM, haven't heard the others... but like I said, I'm not really a prog guy... I like Kraut and Canterbury stuff, a lil bit of popular UK/US stuff, but thats about it...
  • SPlDEYSPlDEY Vegas 3,375 Posts
    you should go with PFM, Banco del mutuo soccorso, Area .....that's the shit

    Don't like PFM, haven't heard the others... but like I said, I'm not really a prog guy... I like Kraut and Canterbury stuff, a lil bit of popular UK/US stuff, but thats about it...

    I feel you. It's difficult to get into if you don't have a good introduction. I mentioned them here(on the strut) before. Look into a band called "The Giallos Flame" INCREDIBLE modern stuff in the italian Giallo movie style.

    http://www.moviegrooves.com/shop/thegiallosflame.htm

    - spidey
  • SPlDEYSPlDEY Vegas 3,375 Posts

    Great album. Though I liked them better as Rainbow Band. I have a DJ set here somewhere where Dan the Automator dropped Where you going to be. That cover is completly Wizard Rock though.

    - spidey
  • progbeatzprogbeatz 451 Posts
    hmmm...I've dabbled.


    As for italian prog,a lot of it is pretentious and meandering.Much of it classically influenced,but here are some of the heavier bands/lp's:







    Italian Canterbury? this one:



    From South America:

    Argentina

    Here's a real obscure one from Sweden:


    France had TONS of prog bands in the 70's:this one is God.

    (prog+underground/psych sounds)

    +Canada-Sloche,Milkweed

    Denmark-Blast Furnace

    Finland-Tasavalin Presidentti(Lambertland),Finnforest,Pekka Pohjola

    blah,blah,blah...I could go on and on.Just some off the top of the dome.










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