I always thought of that with the dark side of the older batman character and could bring it to the eerynes of Batman2 (good only for penguin's disgutingness)
Leave that shit alone. Hollywood cannot cram that miniseries into 2 hours w/ a fuckin'happy ending. Dont touch it. Besides, elements of the DARK KNIGHT RETURNS were inculcated into BEGINS. The Batmobile being the most obvious example.
I thought what made Begins work was that it was thematically similar to "Year One". If anything they should have had Frank Miller as a consultant.
I always thought of that with the dark side of the older batman character and could bring it to the eerynes of Batman2 (good only for penguin's disgutingness)
Leave that shit alone. Hollywood cannot cram that miniseries into 2 hours w/ a fuckin'happy ending. Dont touch it. Besides, elements of the DARK KNIGHT RETURNS were inculcated into BEGINS. The Batmobile being the most obvious example.
I thought what made Begins work was that it was thematically similar to "Year One". If anything they should have had Frank Miller as a consultant.
Batman Begins didn't borrow anything from Dark Knight Returns. Maybe Batman Year One. I never read Year One though.
Another ill Batman comic book involved Batman getting hooked on some drugs that made him super aggressive. If I remember right that drug was later used to make Bane who went on to break Batman's back. It was part of one of the many Batman comic series. I think it was called Legends of the Dark Knight and basically told stories of Batman from the past. Really fucking dope.
I always thought of that with the dark side of the older batman character and could bring it to the eerynes of Batman2 (good only for penguin's disgutingness)
Leave that shit alone. Hollywood cannot cram that miniseries into 2 hours w/ a fuckin'happy ending. Dont touch it. Besides, elements of the DARK KNIGHT RETURNS were inculcated into BEGINS. The Batmobile being the most obvious example.
I thought what made Begins work was that it was thematically similar to "Year One". If anything they should have had Frank Miller as a consultant.
Batman Begins didn't borrow anything from Dark Knight Returns. Maybe Batman Year One. I never read Year One though.
Another ill Batman comic book involved Batman getting hooked on some drugs that made him super aggressive. If I remember right that drug was later used to make Bane who went on to break Batman's back. It was part of one of the many Batman comic series. I think it was called Legends of the Dark Knight and basically told stories of Batman from the past. Really fucking dope.
He's right about the Batmobile...that's straight pulled from Miller's Dark Knight if ya ask me...not much else.
There's a movie about Y: The Last Man in works right now. I am not looking forward to that. I really like that comic and I know they will fuck it up.
Sometimes Hollywood has to realise that some stories are better left on the page, unless you can get someone very incredible to write (like Cronenberg's version of Naked Lunch).
I always thought of that with the dark side of the older batman character and could bring it to the eerynes of Batman2 (good only for penguin's disgutingness)
Leave that shit alone. Hollywood cannot cram that miniseries into 2 hours w/ a fuckin'happy ending. Dont touch it. Besides, elements of the DARK KNIGHT RETURNS were inculcated into BEGINS. The Batmobile being the most obvious example.
I thought what made Begins work was that it was thematically similar to "Year One". If anything they should have had Frank Miller as a consultant.
Batman Begins didn't borrow anything from Dark Knight Returns. Maybe Batman Year One. I never read Year One though.
Another ill Batman comic book involved Batman getting hooked on some drugs that made him super aggressive. If I remember right that drug was later used to make Bane who went on to break Batman's back. It was part of one of the many Batman comic series. I think it was called Legends of the Dark Knight and basically told stories of Batman from the past. Really fucking dope.
He's right about the Batmobile...that's straight pulled from Miller's Dark Knight if ya ask me...not much else.
Frank miller wrote year one because of the DKReturns popularity.
I always thought of that with the dark side of the older batman character and could bring it to the eerynes of Batman2 (good only for penguin's disgutingness)
Leave that shit alone. Hollywood cannot cram that miniseries into 2 hours w/ a fuckin'happy ending. Dont touch it. Besides, elements of the DARK KNIGHT RETURNS were inculcated into BEGINS. The Batmobile being the most obvious example.
I thought what made Begins work was that it was thematically similar to "Year One". If anything they should have had Frank Miller as a consultant.
Batman Begins didn't borrow anything from Dark Knight Returns. Maybe Batman Year One. I never read Year One though.
Another ill Batman comic book involved Batman getting hooked on some drugs that made him super aggressive. If I remember right that drug was later used to make Bane who went on to break Batman's back. It was part of one of the many Batman comic series. I think it was called Legends of the Dark Knight and basically told stories of Batman from the past. Really fucking dope.
He's right about the Batmobile...that's straight pulled from Miller's Dark Knight if ya ask me...not much else.
Frank miller wrote year one because of the DKReturns popularity.
Year One was born because of The popularity of DK, but Begins is just a modified Year One - They threw in Ras & filled in some blanks from Year One, like where Bruce had gone to train, etc...It wasn't quite as "Film Noir" as the comic, but you had the gangsters & dirty cops & some scenes pretty much lifted from the book. I think if they hadn't included Ras & just used the gangsters & corrupt cops as the bad guys, it would have been a better film, but Ras is a major character from the comics & he was one of the rogues gallery that hasn't had any screen time. I wouldn't be surprised if they make a sequel that Ras' daughter shows up as the villaness/love interest.
Do you remember a Batman issue called "Brown Shoes Don't Make It"? it was a wicked storyline, took place in the ghetto and this pretty "square" black dude was frustrated that all the kids looked up to the neigbourhood pimp, so he created himself as a super hero? i really really need to know what he called himself, and want to track down the comic (which probably aint worth anything), but it was a cool concept. I think the guy was an expert in audio or something and devised some toons to have super sonic hearing or something. ring a bell? it was part of a batman comic, but i dont think batman really played a role in it much.
Do you remember a Batman issue called "Brown Shoes Don't Make It"? it was a wicked storyline, took place in the ghetto and this pretty "square" black dude was frustrated that all the kids looked up to the neigbourhood pimp, so he created himself as a super hero? i really really need to know what he called himself, and want to track down the comic (which probably aint worth anything), but it was a cool concept. I think the guy was an expert in audio or something and devised some toons to have super sonic hearing or something. ring a bell? it was part of a batman comic, but i dont think batman really played a role in it much.
I'm kinda regarding most comic-to-movie adaptaions. But Ghost Rider was the first book I ever read once I got past the Richie Rich stage at around 10 years of age. Johnny Blaze is the epitome of a tortured soul & though I could go either way with Nicolas Cage, he seems to thrive in those sort of characters (Leaving Las Vegas, Matchstick Men, etc.) Whaddyall think?
ill vote for , basically because Marvel movies are hit and miss so far. Spiderman 2 was alright, xmen 2 was good. but hulk and FF were poo. Nick might be a bit old? but actually thats cool because im tired of hollywood going for too-young actors in superhero movies to make them appeal to the "next generation". aside from the younger xmen kids, it dont feel right.
batman begins might just be the best superhero movie yet. it feels the most 'correct' to me anyway.
Watchmen was already underway but it looks like its in trouble and is being re-shopped due to a upper level studio shake up. Personally I cant figure out how theyd stuff all that story in even a 3 hour film.
Do you remember a Batman issue called "Brown Shoes Don't Make It"? it was a wicked storyline, took place in the ghetto and this pretty "square" black dude was frustrated that all the kids looked up to the neigbourhood pimp, so he created himself as a super hero? i really really need to know what he called himself, and want to track down the comic (which probably aint worth anything), but it was a cool concept. I think the guy was an expert in audio or something and devised some toons to have super sonic hearing or something. ring a bell? it was part of a batman comic, but i dont think batman really played a role in it much.
Just found this online, but don't see a date as to when it might have happened.
Grendel has always been one of my favorites!
Matt Wagner's GRENDEL coming to the big screen!
Big news for fans of independent comics, The Hollywood Reporter has broken news that Matt Wagner's Grendel has been optioned for the big screen...
Warner Bros. Pictures-based John Wells Prods. has optioned the graphic novel "Grendel" from its creator, Matt Wagner, in association with Dark Horse Entertainment and Arsenal Entertainment. Scribe Carl Lund is attached to adapt the project through his blind script deal with JWP. An award-winning comic creation, "Grendel" spans several decades with its story encompassing various generations of characters. Lund's script will focus on the story line of Christine Spar, the adopted granddaughter of the notoriously sadistic yet rich and graceful Hunter Rose -- aka the original Grendel. Spar was the focus of Wagner's book "Grendel: Devil's Legacy."
Especially the early series when it was published by Comico.
Wow. Didn't think anybody here would be up on Grendel or Matt Wagner.
When I read that Hollywood Reporter blurb I couldn't help but laugh.
Back when Wagner was doing the first series for Comico, I worked at a comic shop here in Poughkeepsie called Iron Vic's.
"Vic" Bertini, the owner, was like the cool uncle I never had.
He knew Matt well and actually fanagled his way into buying the film rights for Grendel.
Vic was a crazy character and used to act and direct in a lot of 60's sex flicks (the harmless tits & ass stuff you see Something Weird Video put out all the time).
So he had connections in the film business and one old friend from his movie days was a guy named Wieland Schulz-Keil, who produced John Huston's "The Dead".
Vic had this whole plan to that if Wieland would come on board to produce, then studios would get interested and invest.
This was also around the same time the first Tim Burton Batman flick came out, so Vic thought there would be this whole rush to make comic book movies.
Of course that wasn't the case.
And of course, like most film projects, Grendel the Movie never panned out & Vic lost the rights after a couple of years.
I saw first hand how that whole experience just fucked him up mentally & physically.
If he found out that there was a new Grendel film project being green-lighted by WB's, he'd probably have a heart attack on the spot.
Wow. Didn't think anybody here would be up on Grendel or Matt Wagner.
I saw first hand how that whole experience just fucked him up mentally & physically. If he found out that there was a new Grendel film project being green-lighted by WB's, he'd probably have a heart attack on the spot. Poor Vic.
Unfortunately, for every Hollyweird success story there are hundreds (thousands?) of Vics...
BTW - I also loved Wagner's first Mage series (although wasn't as taken with the second series).
Now what would be cool is if someone could figure out a way to make Cerebus High Society into a movie! Impossible most likely - but fun to think about!
Wow. Didn't think anybody here would be up on Grendel or Matt Wagner. BTW - I also loved Wagner's first Mage series (although wasn't as taken with the second series).
I always thought of that with the dark side of the older batman character and could bring it to the eerynes of Batman2 (good only for penguin's disgutingness)
Leave that shit alone. Hollywood cannot cram that miniseries into 2 hours w/ a fuckin'happy ending. Dont touch it. Besides, elements of the DARK KNIGHT RETURNS were inculcated into BEGINS. The Batmobile being the most obvious example.
I thought what made Begins work was that it was thematically similar to "Year One". If anything they should have had Frank Miller as a consultant.
Batman Begins didn't borrow anything from Dark Knight Returns. Maybe Batman Year One. I never read Year One though.
Another ill Batman comic book involved Batman getting hooked on some drugs that made him super aggressive. If I remember right that drug was later used to make Bane who went on to break Batman's back. It was part of one of the many Batman comic series. I think it was called Legends of the Dark Knight and basically told stories of Batman from the past. Really fucking dope.
He's right about the Batmobile...that's straight pulled from Miller's Dark Knight if ya ask me...not much else.
Other Examples of DKReturns in YEARONE/BEGINS
Selina Kyle escort services in DKR.............prostitute in Y.ONE
I dont recall ever reading an origin where young Bruce actually falls into the Batcave and looks into a dark cave w/ a hissing Bat. That image iz from DKR which was in Begins. The Fear of Bats iz def post Frank Miller writing. There werent any origins stories before DKR showing hiz "fear" of bats iz what inspired the crime-fighting method. In DKR the bat comes through the window, which iz the most frequently used image of the bat-discovery story.
This one iz a stretch.......
Gay Joker in DKReturns................Quasi-Gay ScareCrow.
When comes down to it, it all stems from DARK KNIGHT RETURNS. The whole resurgence is due to that mini-series.Begins iz firmly rooted in the DKR mythos. 20 yrs later, Miller's vision still cant be avoided.
Any real heads know that It really all started w/ hiz run on Daredevil.
Any real heads know that It really all started w/ hiz run on Daredevil.
...for real. And look what happened with the film version (s) of that material!
I'm in the minority with this but I felt like Daredevil was better then public thought. It was really "human" IMO. Daredevil was never a flashy book. Unlike X-Men.
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I thought what made Begins work was that it was thematically similar to "Year One". If anything they should have had Frank Miller as a consultant.
Batman Begins didn't borrow anything from Dark Knight Returns. Maybe Batman Year One. I never read Year One though.
Another ill Batman comic book involved Batman getting hooked on some drugs that made him super aggressive. If I remember right that drug was later used to make Bane who went on to break Batman's back. It was part of one of the many Batman comic series. I think it was called Legends of the Dark Knight and basically told stories of Batman from the past. Really fucking dope.
He's right about the Batmobile...that's straight pulled from Miller's Dark Knight if ya ask me...not much else.
Didn't the batmobile from dark knight look like a tank? It was low to the ground, very wide & had a periscope. Nothing sleek about it.
Sometimes Hollywood has to realise that some stories are better left on the page, unless you can get someone very incredible to write (like Cronenberg's version of Naked Lunch).
Yes. It was very much like a tank in Dark Knight. Futuristic behemoth.
Frank miller wrote year one because of the DKReturns popularity.
Year One was born because of The popularity of DK, but Begins is just a modified Year One - They threw in Ras & filled in some blanks from Year One, like where Bruce had gone to train, etc...It wasn't quite as "Film Noir" as the comic, but you had the gangsters & dirty cops & some scenes pretty much lifted from the book. I think if they hadn't included Ras & just used the gangsters & corrupt cops as the bad guys, it would have been a better film, but Ras is a major character from the comics & he was one of the rogues gallery that hasn't had any screen time. I wouldn't be surprised if they make a sequel that Ras' daughter shows up as the villaness/love interest.
Do you remember a Batman issue called "Brown Shoes Don't Make It"? it was a wicked storyline, took place in the ghetto and this pretty "square" black dude was frustrated that all the kids looked up to the neigbourhood pimp, so he created himself as a super hero? i really really need to know what he called himself, and want to track down the comic (which probably aint worth anything), but it was a cool concept. I think the guy was an expert in audio or something and devised some toons to have super sonic hearing or something. ring a bell? it was part of a batman comic, but i dont think batman really played a role in it much.
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ill vote for
batman begins might just be the best superhero movie yet. it feels the most 'correct' to me anyway.
Watchmen was already underway but it looks like its in trouble and is being re-shopped due to a upper level studio shake up. Personally I cant figure out how theyd stuff all that story in even a 3 hour film.
yes man, you are the man! Sonic Booooooooooooooooooooms!
Wow. Didn't think anybody here would be up on Grendel or Matt Wagner.
When I read that Hollywood Reporter blurb I couldn't help but laugh.
Back when Wagner was doing the first series for Comico, I worked at a comic shop here in Poughkeepsie called Iron Vic's.
"Vic" Bertini, the owner, was like the cool uncle I never had.
He knew Matt well and actually fanagled his way into buying the film rights for Grendel.
Vic was a crazy character and used to act and direct in a lot of 60's sex flicks (the harmless tits & ass stuff you see Something Weird Video put out all the time).
So he had connections in the film business and one old friend from his movie days was a guy named Wieland Schulz-Keil, who produced John Huston's "The Dead".
Vic had this whole plan to that if Wieland would come on board to produce, then studios would get interested and invest.
This was also around the same time the first Tim Burton Batman flick came out, so Vic thought there would be this whole rush to make comic book movies.
Of course that wasn't the case.
And of course, like most film projects, Grendel the Movie never panned out & Vic lost the rights after a couple of years.
I saw first hand how that whole experience just fucked him up mentally & physically.
If he found out that there was a new Grendel film project being green-lighted by WB's, he'd probably have a heart attack on the spot.
Poor Vic.
Unfortunately, for every Hollyweird success story there are hundreds (thousands?) of Vics...
BTW - I also loved Wagner's first Mage series (although wasn't as taken with the second series).
Now what would be cool is if someone could figure out a way to make Cerebus High Society into a movie! Impossible most likely - but fun to think about!
And the Bill Seinkiewicz (sp?) version of Elektra...
Peace...
FNM
Hell yeah, Mage's first run iz tha shit.
The shazam-like t-shirt waz ill.
Other Examples of DKReturns in YEARONE/BEGINS
Selina Kyle escort services in DKR.............prostitute in Y.ONE
I dont recall ever reading an origin where young Bruce actually falls into the Batcave and looks into a dark cave w/ a hissing Bat. That image iz from DKR which was in Begins. The Fear of Bats iz def post Frank Miller writing. There werent any origins stories before DKR showing hiz "fear" of bats iz what inspired the crime-fighting method. In DKR the bat comes through the window, which iz the most frequently used image of the bat-discovery story.
This one iz a stretch.......
Gay Joker in DKReturns................Quasi-Gay ScareCrow.
When comes down to it, it all stems from DARK KNIGHT RETURNS. The whole resurgence is due to that mini-series.Begins iz firmly rooted in the DKR mythos. 20 yrs later, Miller's vision still cant be avoided.
Any real heads know that It really all started w/ hiz run on Daredevil.
...for real. And look what happened with the film version (s) of that material!
...for real. And look what happened with the film version (s) of that material!
I'm in the minority with this but I felt like Daredevil was better then public thought. It was really "human" IMO. Daredevil was never a flashy book. Unlike X-Men.
So necessary.
T'Challa for real.
deadpool way out in front, as per the norm