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  • Can I get a Trump Thread?

    From a distance, it's funny to watch developments and think about stuff like, who is going to actually step up and run alongside trump as a VP? Aside from "drunk incoherent aunt at barbeque" Sarah Palin I guess. That'd be funny.

    But really, my more serious view has been that there is definitely a level of unrest we haven't seen in several generations. I'm not talking about the '60s either but the '30s. I'm American, so I've been following Trump's rise, but for example, here in the UK the "Leave the EU" campaign is winning polls based on literally zero positive offerings. What they are campaigning on is "excessive" immigration in this 92+% native-born white country, xenophobia against Turks and Ukranians joining the EU (because it was so bad when Poles, Romanians and whoever else already came, sigh), taking back the ability of the UK government to abolish the Human Rights Act, and other totally odious, dim, narrow-minded nationalism that hasn't taken hold in the western world since the 1930s. Austria nearly elected basically a '30s style fascist a couple weeks ago  in an election almost too close to call, Greece has a rising Nazi party (not even Neo-Nazi), Hungary's third largest party is an irredentist ultranationalist racist party, France is coming close to a X vs. National Front runoff next election...

    While it all manifests slightly differently in the US, I feel it must come from the same root causes. Trump offers national pride to people who have nothing else to be proud of. Much like other hard-right movements (men's rights advocates, white supremacists, etc.) I think it's people whose sole source of self-worth now derives from clinging to irrational superiority through racism, sexism, or in Trump's case, mostly nationalism (with some of everything else in there too), because every other more concrete source of self-worth has been taken from them: economic self-determination, social mobility, community support and involvement, stability, health.

    So, ironically, capitalism and neoliberalism has won so soundly in these countries that they've actually progressed backwards in time and destabilized again. If I was a hard core fan of capitalism, I'd be looking for ways to moderate it, reduce inequality, etc. very quickly because it is going to eat itself with this shit. That's why you see the IMF putting out research saying "jesus, we really screwed up with this austerity stuff, it's actually made things worse just like the leftists said it would". They see they've misbehaved so freely that they've created the conditions for another rise of fascism, nationalism, maybe even world wars.

    So while Trump is a clown we can all hope will lose - and will, if enough people turn out to vote - maybe next week the UK is going to vote to leave the EU and destabilize the fuck out of that situation, maybe hard-right governments are going to be elected in quite a few European countries, including parties who want to invade neighboring countries because of lingering ethnic reasons... maybe next time a version of Trump who isn't a total clown will run and win. There's a lot to fight for and not just sit back and watch now, at any rate.
    DuderonomyReynaldo82ketantrzakhstanBig_StackssoulcitizenGibboDORRAJ
  • The 2017 RIP Thread

    With Clyde, among the obvious Funky Drummer sample-inspiring-a-whole-genre stuff, and the killer recordings of Cold Sweat, Mother Popcorn etc., the thing that sticks out for me (as a shitty drummer who obsessed since age 12 over him, Bernard Purdie, etc.) was the 90s released live CD of James Brown live in Dallas 1968, "Say It Live And Loud".

    They play what seems like 130-160bpm for the whole goddamn concert. There's an unbelievable version of "There Was A Time" on this that will make you drop a enchirito out of your crackass, in the words of ap. The ghost notes on that still give me wrist pain and I don't even come close. Every non-ballad is played so furiously and with so much snare grace-note depth it damn near presages 90s jungle/dnb records. Put that concert on and listen to "I Got The Feeling". I am not a James Brown completist but I haven't heard anything like that before or since. That is an overheating band and some unbelievable drumming driving it all.

    In particular "There Was A Time" on that concert has driven my own feeble attempts at drumming way more than Funky Drummer or any of the famous Stubblefield recordings. The man is a personal hero for me and an enemy of my left wrist.
    dukeofdelridgeGibbominiketanDuderonomycove
  • The 2017 RIP Thread

    DOR said:
    Can we give the drummer some?

    Anyone got some good live clips?

    RIP


    I found the "There Was A Time" I'm raving about. The rest of the concert sounds like Mr. Brown told them all they had to play their hour long set in 40 minutes cause he had the shits or something. The tightest band ever playing in hyperactive mode. The song transitions are serious too - ZERO gap between this track's abrupt final note and "Try Me" that follows.

    The late Mr. Stubblefield, ghost-noting a runaway train with his left hand:

    DORketanDuderonomyJimstermini
  • Sample flip / Beat Thread



    just a sketch by a dabbler. you guys show me some dope directions and I went with straight simplistic low-fi cut and paste wav stuff cause that's all I'm capable of!
    HeyRiggsBig_StacksDuderonomyrain103
  • Voodoo Funk vs Austrian Reissue? Label

    I don't know German and didn't do the research Frank did, but my overall impression reading both guys' stuff is

    a. a classic Frank diss track on par with Kon & Amir etc., although he's bringing it journalistic this time with reference citing and hardly any personal flambée

    b. people are complex and it doesn't seem clear that yer man with the reissue label is just some nazi, maybe just an ex-edgelord edgy edgemaster who is now genuinely hella Christian and an honest dealer moving in on Frank's area of expertise

    c. although the saltiness each of them has about "oh well did you pay so-and-so before you reissued that" just goes to show that pimpin' <3000-copy niche reissues of decades-old music from extremely populous countries without good record-keeping or copyright legalities ain't easy and I'm glad I'm not doing that for a living or even a giggle
    ketanJuniordukeofdelridge
  • TAKE THAT SHIT TO THE-BRITS.COM

    In case we thought there weren't any bigger creeps than the conservatives, a couple interesting things about the DUP -

    - The UVF (I think it was this acronym?) a currently active terrorist organization, literally murdered a dude in front of his 3 year old in a supermarket parking lot like last week, and DUP leader Arlene Foster met with their head for a social visit less than 48 hours after the murder and didn't have anything to say about it...

    http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/what-connects-brexit-the-dup-dark-money-and-a-saudi-prince-1.3083586

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/wintour-and-watt/2010/sep/14/billy-wright-northern-ireland

    A party in love with a guy so murderous that the Combined Loyalist Military Command ordered him to leave NI in 72 hours or be killed because he was jeapordizing the peace process - despite him being on their side.

    Then there's the problem of militant loyalists holding the UK government to ransom possibly being a violation of the Good Friday agreement... see if they can't fuck around and get the trifecta of leaving the EU, losing Scotland and NI, and hell let's throw in the freebie of kick-starting a new Troubles.

    So surprising no one, May, who tweeted during the election that a six-seat loss would mean Corbyn would be PM and then lost more than double that, is clinging to power through just about the filthiest means possible.

    If there's one good thing to come from this (aside from a new election) I hope this teaches all the recently-engaged or energized voters than politics is about taking power, not asking for it, not winning the moral battle or the sorkin-esque rhetorical epée shit, not "both sides do it"-ing, but having an ideology and a program to execute it and doing it even if it's dirty, because that sure as shit is what the right wing has known how to do for decades.

    JimsterDuderonomy
  • TAKE THAT SHIT TO THE-BRITS.COM

    I know it ain't gonna happen but I really, really want to see the national spit-take if Labour take it (or at least the Cons can't form a government). It'd be the perfect culmination of 2 (really 7, but let's be generous) years of the government literally fucking up every prediction of every election result, writing checks they can't cash, being held to it, wreaking havoc and then for some reason being rewarded for it anyway at every turn.
    Junior