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Classic Jamaican Break 12"s

Mongo_SladeMongo_Slade 999 Posts
edited August 2005 in Strut Central
Over the years I've picked up a few classic breakbeats that were pressed up on bootleg 12" in JA in the 70s:Arawak All Stars: Apache/Bongo Rock (Arawak)Apachie Band: Apachie/Bungo Rock (Dell Tone)[both of these are boots of the Incredible Bongo Band versions]Captain Sky: Super Sporm (Dynamic Sounds)There are others, right? Were these mainly distributed to the NYC market?K in Canada? Somebody?

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    Over the years I've picked up a few classic breakbeats that were pressed up on bootleg 12" in JA in the 70s:



    Arawak All Stars: Apache/Bongo Rock (Arawak)

    Apachie Band: Apachie/Bungo Rock (Dell Tone)

    [both of these are boots of the Incredible Bongo Band versions]

    Captain Sky: Super Sporm (Dynamic Sounds)



    There are others, right? Were these mainly distributed to the NYC market?



    K in Canada? Somebody?




    Word is they're (the bongo bands, that is) actually NY records and were never pressed in Jamaica at all (which would explain why the text is similar to deeep disco and NY roots 12's of that era). May have ahd some Jmaican involvement, but after they had come to NEw York (maybe Phil Pratt?). I've got a "Pussyfooter" JA 12 - that's the only other I can think of (JA boots of US UBB-ish 12's). I'd wager this cateogory isn't 5 records deep.



    45's and JA breaks on the other hand....



    K.



  • bull_oxbull_ox 5,056 Posts
    jb's blow your head claims to be from trinidad
  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    There's a "Super Sporm" 12" on Dynamic. I get that from time to time. I'll have to check if it's JA press when I get home, perhaps Kevin can enlighten in the meantime?
  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    Oh also found a "Chicken Yellow" 12" similar to the others. Alas, too trashed to take home.

    And the bongo rock/apache 12" I've got in the shop right now is on a different label from those mentioned above.
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    jb's blow your head claims to be from trinidad

    12"?

    K>
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    There's a "Super Sporm" 12" on Dynamic. I get that from time to time. I'll have to check if it's JA press when I get home, perhaps Kevin can enlighten in the meantime?

    I had that once too. Got a DSR matrix which pretty much seals it's JA-ness.

    K>
  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    jb's blow your head claims to be from trinidad

    12"?

    K>

    Yeah, Ari has one.
  • bull_oxbull_ox 5,056 Posts
    jb's blow your head claims to be from trinidad

    12"?

    K>

    yep
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    jb's blow your head claims to be from trinidad

    12"?

    K>

    yep

    I know the 45 was pressed there, too.

    Are we expanding this cateogory to other islands?

    K.
  • bull_oxbull_ox 5,056 Posts
    Are we expanding this cateogory to other islands?

    Well that depends- are there any more?

    I assumed it was fake NYC pressing like the others...
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    The 45 isn't, so...

    K.
  • cardovacardova 743 Posts
    not an "island", but the "scratchin" 12" says "canada".

    other new york bootleg break 12":
    -lovomaniacs "sex"
    -john davis "i can't stop"
    -hustler's convention "sport" (this is actually legit)
    -pleasure "let's dance"
    -the paul winleys: cymande & creative source
    there's more

    i need one of those super sporms if somebody has one.


  • bull_oxbull_ox 5,056 Posts
    -hustler's convention "sport" (this is actually legit)

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    IF we pooled our lumberjacks and just cut alng the 49th parallel we could be a (very big) island. Australia who?

    K.
  • cardovacardova 743 Posts
    -hustler's convention "sport" (this is actually legit)


    the 12" is on celluloid, from the early 80's when they reissued the early last poets albums. i can't see disco deejays being too interested, so i guess it must have been for the "hiphop" market.
  • dust_chopperdust_chopper 39 Posts
    manhattan's an island...
  • Mongo_SladeMongo_Slade 999 Posts


    i need one of those super sporms if somebody has one.



    It's one of those one-sided deals with a checkerboard pattern etched into the blank side. I love that shit.

    So what's with the "legit" Lightnin' Rod 12"? Is it on U.A.?
  • Mongo_SladeMongo_Slade 999 Posts
    -hustler's convention "sport" (this is actually legit)


    the 12" is on celluloid, from the early 80's when they reissued the early last poets albums. i can't see disco deejays being too interested, so i guess it must have been for the "hiphop" market.

    You mean the "Doriella Du Fontaine" 12" with Hendrix? I seen that a fair amount but have never seen one of "Sport."
  • cardovacardova 743 Posts
    naah, it's "sport" with "spoon" & "cafe black rose" on the flip.

    the "i can't stop" bootleg also has that checkerboard pattern.
  • BigSpliffBigSpliff 3,266 Posts

    Word is they're (the bongo bands, that is) actually NY records and were never pressed in Jamaica at all (which would explain why the text is similar to deeep disco and NY roots 12's of that era).

    Yup, makes sense to me. I have a lovely 12 of Arawak Allstars. I just assumed they chose Jamaica to throw the feds off?? I mean, not many reggae 45s say "made in Jamaica", so why the Apache?

    But some of these records are a) well pressed and b) historically interesting, thus worth a lil loot.
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