thanks for posting this, it is wonderful, and a great counter point to frank ocean. this dude is not singing about fucking girls in a garden.
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Not really into all of these mousy voices that people are currently celebrating. Folks were complaining left and right about Akon and T-Pain and their use of autotune just a few weeks ago...and now those same people seem to be digging voices that to me sound autotuned, just without the autotune. Funny how that works.
Not really into all of these mousy voices that people are currently celebrating. Folks were complaining left and right about Akon and T-Pain and their use of autotune just a few weeks ago...and now those same people seem to be digging voices that to me sound autotuned, just without the autotune. Funny how that works.
teenagers making teenager music is cool with me. they sound mousy partly 'cause they're kids. akon is almost forty.
1. Neither artist mentioned in this thread is a teenager.
2. Frank Ocean is more of a hippie than a hipster, in both aesthetics and disposition. There doesn't seem to be a cynical bone in dude's body and he wears kufis unironically.
3.The Weeknd makes very bad music.
I still ride for the album but then I don't really see the comparisons with Frank Ocean (which I love). In my Private Mind Filing System I see The Weeknd more as morose indie pop than RnB. I have developed a tolerance for this kind of thing and like it for what it is but I wouldn't expect anyone coming at it from a purely RnB viewpoint to like it, especially if it's put up against Frank Ocean or, especially, The-Dream.
By the way, not trying to stir more shit that's calmed down but:
yeah this shit is hot garbage. it took them one week to do what it took dream 3 years & they have one one thousandth his gift for melody or phrasing, and sorry this production eats ass. how many years did it take tricky to go from jt money's solo album to getting big name production credits?
Reads disturbingly similar to what some people were moaning about in the Odd Future thread ("these guys didn't even battle" "where's their years of hardship"). Didn't think it was valid in that thread and don't think it's valid in this one. Who really cares if it took ten years or ten minutes? Part of the joys of modern music and its distribution. IMHO.
It's the great Soul Strut divide 2011!! lol
It's on the better end of the clothing store soundtrack spectrum imo.
deej said:
R&B for people who dont like R&B
Excellent assessment.
Goodness knows I've tried...different times of the day, different moods and settings, but I am left cold by the Frank Ocean.
noz said:
2. Frank Ocean is more of a hippie than a hipster, in both aesthetics and disposition. There doesn't seem to be a cynical bone in dude's body and he wears kufis unironically.
I originally downloaded the Weeknd LP on the strngth of the glass table cut, but after a few days the whole album (and sound) has been really growing on me - also, yeah, I don't really like R&B.
b/w
I do not know who Frank Ocean is. Where do I start?
I just became familiar with "The Morning" (from a source more tuned-in w/indie rock & synth pop than r&b, mind you) and I really like it despite it being overly referential and extremely post-Drake.
I suppose I am an R&B fan, if that means anything.
I still ride for the album but then I don't really see the comparisons with Frank Ocean (which I love). In my Private Mind Filing System I see The Weeknd more as morose indie pop than RnB. I have developed a tolerance for this kind of thing and like it for what it is but I wouldn't expect anyone coming at it from a purely RnB viewpoint to like it, especially if it's put up against Frank Ocean or, especially, The-Dream.
By the way, not trying to stir more shit that's calmed down but:
yeah this shit is hot garbage. it took them one week to do what it took dream 3 years & they have one one thousandth his gift for melody or phrasing, and sorry this production eats ass. how many years did it take tricky to go from jt money's solo album to getting big name production credits?
Reads disturbingly similar to what some people were moaning about in the Odd Future thread ("these guys didn't even battle" "where's their years of hardship"). Didn't think it was valid in that thread and don't think it's valid in this one. Who really cares if it took ten years or ten minutes? Part of the joys of modern music and its distribution. IMHO.
this is a misunderstanding. i'm more concerned about how 'alternative marketing' shortcuts ppl's discernment of quality. I posted about the-dream & repped for it on this board & it was all 'controversial.' most ppl were shitting on it. by the 2nd album, folks were jumping on board in big numbers.
this stuff doesn't have to deal with that, because its marketed like an indie record. my issue isn't that the weeknd arent 'experienced' enough -- im not sure that hustling for a few extra years would make the guy a better singer -- but that people are so willing to let extra-musical concerns help them decide what they like / listen to
I still ride for the album but then I don't really see the comparisons with Frank Ocean (which I love). In my Private Mind Filing System I see The Weeknd more as morose indie pop than RnB. I have developed a tolerance for this kind of thing and like it for what it is but I wouldn't expect anyone coming at it from a purely RnB viewpoint to like it, especially if it's put up against Frank Ocean or, especially, The-Dream.
By the way, not trying to stir more shit that's calmed down but:
yeah this shit is hot garbage. it took them one week to do what it took dream 3 years & they have one one thousandth his gift for melody or phrasing, and sorry this production eats ass. how many years did it take tricky to go from jt money's solo album to getting big name production credits?
Reads disturbingly similar to what some people were moaning about in the Odd Future thread ("these guys didn't even battle" "where's their years of hardship"). Didn't think it was valid in that thread and don't think it's valid in this one. Who really cares if it took ten years or ten minutes? Part of the joys of modern music and its distribution. IMHO.
this is a misunderstanding. i'm more concerned about how 'alternative marketing' shortcuts ppl's discernment of quality. I posted about the-dream & repped for it on this board & it was all 'controversial.' most ppl were shitting on it. by the 2nd album, folks were jumping on board in big numbers.
this stuff doesn't have to deal with that, because its marketed like an indie record. my issue isn't that the weeknd arent 'experienced' enough -- im not sure that hustling for a few extra years would make the guy a better singer -- but that people are so willing to let extra-musical concerns help them decide what they like / listen to
Ah ok, got it. Don't know if i think that's the case in this particular thread but understand where you're coming from.
I posted about the-dream & repped for it on this board & it was all 'controversial.' most ppl were shitting on it. by the 2nd album, folks were jumping on board in big numbers.
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haha.
i was just noticing that same thing listening to the weekend on the ride in this morning.
Lets coin a new phrase:
Not-o-Tune
verb
To sing like you have been auto-tuned when you actuallyhavent been auto-tuned.
2. Frank Ocean is more of a hippie than a hipster, in both aesthetics and disposition. There doesn't seem to be a cynical bone in dude's body and he wears kufis unironically.
3.The Weeknd makes very bad music.
By the way, not trying to stir more shit that's calmed down but:
Reads disturbingly similar to what some people were moaning about in the Odd Future thread ("these guys didn't even battle" "where's their years of hardship"). Didn't think it was valid in that thread and don't think it's valid in this one. Who really cares if it took ten years or ten minutes? Part of the joys of modern music and its distribution. IMHO.
Yup. I like this one.
It's the great Soul Strut divide 2011!! lol
It's on the better end of the clothing store soundtrack spectrum imo.
Excellent assessment.
Goodness knows I've tried...different times of the day, different moods and settings, but I am left cold by the Frank Ocean.
I guess this is why.
b/w
I do not know who Frank Ocean is. Where do I start?
I suppose I am an R&B fan, if that means anything.
this stuff doesn't have to deal with that, because its marketed like an indie record. my issue isn't that the weeknd arent 'experienced' enough -- im not sure that hustling for a few extra years would make the guy a better singer -- but that people are so willing to let extra-musical concerns help them decide what they like / listen to
http://www.depositfiles.com/en/files/0by5hjduk
Ah ok, got it. Don't know if i think that's the case in this particular thread but understand where you're coming from.