iDosing/Digital drugs.

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  • Hotsauce84Hotsauce84 8,450 Posts
    One of the songs that supposedly gets you "high":




    Sounds like shit if you ask me.

  • JoeMojoJoeMojo 720 Posts
    These kids need to buy some Fennesz records.

  • Mr_Lee_PHDMr_Lee_PHD 2,042 Posts
    :icallbullshit:

    Same deal with subliminal messages.

    That said, never under-estimate the power of the placebo effect.

    This is why hypnotists do 'suggestibility tests' before hypnotizing a person. Suggestibility tests are actually not 'tests' at all, they are self-working tricks which serve as convincers to increase and compound a person's suggestibility - because a person can only be hypnotized if they believe they can be hypnotized.

    The same also happens when people see evidence of it working on other people... it increases their own suggestibility. This is why churches full of people fall on the floor all that the same time.. they see one person fall and assume the same will happen to them, so they are kinda hypnotized by their own expectancy based on what they have seen happening in front of them.

    The same kinda thing is going on here... just with binaural beats as a scapegoat.

    There's a rumor that MP3's can get you high, backed up with supposed 'video evidence' of it happening... and the icing on the cake - a news report endorsing the rumor and even WARNING about its effectiveness.

    With all those convincers laid out, all you gotta do is be suggestible and download an MP3.. the placebo effect will take care of the rest.

    If they really want to debunk this once and for all, all they need to do is carry out a double-blind experiment.

    In the meantime, there are some dudes laughing all the way to the bank from making a killing out of people's suggestibility.

  • motown67motown67 4,513 Posts
    They just had a story about this on NPR as well. They talked to a doctor who studied the music who said it does absolutely nothing to you although the music sounds trippy in your head.

    Researcher Dispels Notion Music Can Get Kids High
    ROBERT SIEGEL, host:

    From NPR News, this is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. I'm Robert Siegel.

    MICHELE NORRIS, host:

    And I'm Michele Norris.

    As if parents of teenagers don't have enough to worry about, add this to the list: fear that their kids are getting high just listening to music. Some websites are offering so-called I-doses of digital drugs, music tracks and applications that promise to deliver the experience of taking marijuana, cocaine, ecstasy, even Viagra.

    And on sites such YouTube, countless videos promise to put you in a drug-like trance.

    (Soundbite of music)

    NORRIS: Naturally, all this has some parents, school districts and even law enforcement officials worried, though most experts are skeptical.

    Helane Wahbeh is an assistant professor at Oregon Health and Science University. She's done several studies into the technology behind the so-called digital drugs. And she joins us now from Portland, Oregon.

    Welcome to the program.

    Dr. HELANE WAHBEH (Naturopathic Physician and Clinician Researcher, Oregon Health and Science University): Thank you.

    NORRIS: Dr. Wahbeh, all of this is based on something called binaural beats, which can supposedly alter brain waves. What exactly are these, and how do they work?

    Dr. WAHBEH: Binaural beats happen when opposite ears receive two different sound waves. And normally, the difference in sound between each ear help people get directional information about the source of the sound. But when you listen to these sounds with stereo headphones, the listener senses the difference between the two frequencies as another beat that sounds like it's coming from the inside of the head.

    So, for example, if the right ear hears a tone at 400 hertz and the left ear hears a tone at 410 hertz, the beat that they hear in their head is at 10 hertz.

    NORRIS: And does that possibly create some sort of altered state?

    Dr. WAHBEH: That's the theory that binaural beats are supposed to affect health and consciousness through something called entrainment of brain waves. So entrainment means that the brain wave activity starts matching the wave activity it is sensing. So if a person is listening to binaural beats at 10 hertz, they're supposed to have an increase in brain wave activity at 10 hertz.

    NORRIS: Now, based on your research, is it possible that listening to these tracks might lead someone to experience something tantamount to the effects of taking cocaine or ecstasy or even Viagra?

    Dr. WAHBEH: We did a small controlled study with four people, and we did not see any brain wave activity shifting to match the binaural beat that people were listening to.

    NORRIS: So if we decided to play some of these binaural beats right now, other than freaking out our listeners who turn to us for news and information and perhaps a little bit of enlightenment, would we cause people to drive off the road or enter into some other kind of spooky altered state?

    Dr. WAHBEH: Not at all. I mean, first of all, you have to listen to it with stereo headphones; and second, I just don't think that there is enough evidence showing that it really does create those altered states.

    NORRIS: So for parents who have lots to worry about when it comes to raising teenagers, I guess we might be able to take this one off the list?

    Dr. WAHBEH: I would think so.

    NORRIS: Dr. Helane Wahbeh, thank you very much for speaking with us.

    Dr. WAHBEH: You're very welcome.

    NORRIS: Helane Wahbeh is an assistant professor at Oregon Health and Science University. She's currently studying the use of meditation to treat combat veterans suffering from posttraumatic stress disorder.

  • bennyboybennyboy 538 Posts

  • OkemOkem 4,617 Posts
    bennyboy said:

    Exactly what I thought.

    see also -

  • Mr_Lee_PHDMr_Lee_PHD 2,042 Posts


    Exactly what I thought.

    see also -

    :face_melt: :face_melt: :face_melt:

    Got me high as a kite!

  • JuniorJunior 4,853 Posts
    Herm said:
    One of the songs that supposedly gets you "high":




    Sounds like shit if you ask me.

    Kept on waiting for the beat to kick in. Very disappointing.

  • MjukisMjukis 1,675 Posts

    Q-Bert knows the deal (1.57).

  • KineticKinetic 3,739 Posts
    Junior said:
    Herm said:
    One of the songs that supposedly gets you "high":




    Sounds like shit if you ask me.

    Kept on waiting for the beat to kick in. Very disappointing.

    That sound is annoying as hell

  • CBearCBear 902 Posts
    Did anyone catch that the iPhone in the news video displayed 4:20pm?

  • ReynaldoReynaldo 6,054 Posts
    I thought creating an "altered state" was the main point of most music.

  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,471 Posts
    Reynaldo said:
    I thought creating an "altered state" was the main point of most music.



  • selperfugeselperfuge 1,165 Posts

  • thropethrope 750 Posts
    smoking_robot said:


    i ride

  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,471 Posts
    thrope said:
    smoking_robot said:


    i ride

    Never read it, even though that's where everybody thinks I got my DJ name from.

  • DJ_Enki said:
    thrope said:
    smoking_robot said:


    i ride

    Never read it, even though that's where everybody thinks I got my DJ name from.

    when i saw you posted in here i thought maybe thats what you were gonna say.

    the book is dope though. the first few chapters are the best stylisticly, then he sorta falls off and veers towards getting the story out towards the end.

  • BreezBreez 1,706 Posts
    What ever happened to good ol' fashion cocaine, weed & ecstasy ??? See, I'm ol' skool (sniff, sniff, cough, cough), I don't understand kids today!!
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