Great series. One of my all time favs. Always felt like if Shakespeare was alive, that would be the show he would write.
I remember watching Open Range in the theater. If you can watch it in some HD format on a big screen, it's a fairly decent flick (a lil slow), with a pretty great final showdown.
At first glance Deadwood seem a little on the Sex In The City in the West (Glossed up HBO productons) type.
Then after many hours on RDR, ive become curious to what ive missed.
Deadwood is one of my favourite HBO productions, I can't recommend it enough.
It's as raw as any Western film I've seen, and they generally deal with your basic battle of good vs bad, with a gunfight showdown. Deadwood lacks gunfights, preferring to get in close and end it quickly with a knife, but it also goes a lot deeper than your average Western.
Deeper meaning Male Soap Opera?
SPOILERS
Deadwood is superior because it transcends its overwhelming macho male and masculine themes with amazing writing and acting. Not to mention it has excellent female roles that do not include shopping, babies or getting a man..
Deep Male Emotions?
I think that vidja game dun scrambled your brain.
Yes, there be deep male emotions on display. Ladies' and whores' too. Brains and guts also.
No, there is little in the way of; shoe talk, foodie lunches, metrosexual art fag bffs, omg hair flicking or deafening ticking of biological clocks.
At first glance Deadwood seem a little on the Sex In The City in the West (Glossed up HBO productons) type.
Then after many hours on RDR, ive become curious to what ive missed.
Deadwood is one of my favourite HBO productions, I can't recommend it enough.
It's as raw as any Western film I've seen, and they generally deal with your basic battle of good vs bad, with a gunfight showdown. Deadwood lacks gunfights, preferring to get in close and end it quickly with a knife, but it also goes a lot deeper than your average Western.
Deeper meaning Male Soap Opera?
SPOILERS
Deadwood is superior because it transcends its overwhelming macho male and masculine themes with amazing writing and acting. Not to mention it has excellent female roles that do not include shopping, babies or getting a man..
Deep Male Emotions?
I think that vidja game dun scrambled your brain.
Yes, there be deep male emotions on display. Ladies' and whores' too. Brains and guts also.
No, there is little in the way of; shoe talk, foodie lunches, metrosexual art fag bffs, omg hair flicking or deafening ticking of biological clocks.
I thought Unforgiven was great when I first saw it but repeated viewing have left me more ambivalent. I think for complexity and artistic perfection nothing in the Eastwood pantheon can touch "Outlaw Josey Wales". Probably my favorite movie ending ever. Can't find it on youtube right now but here's some other favorite scenes:
I liked Unforgiven when I first saw it, but like it even more after reading some smarty break it down in TNY in a pretty recent article on Eastwood: just like you movie guys are saying...that it was a commentary not only on Westerns, but Eastwood's career as well. That drawn-out scene when the kid gets his first chance to kill really is unbearable.
Unforgiven is a great movie; I'd recommend it above a lot of other stuff.
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Junior said:
It's a really decent modern western but I just don't know if I could personally rank it above most of the following (in no particular order) as I think part of the reason it's ranked quite so highly is due to it's unexpected revitalisation of a dead genre and it's postmodernism.:
The Good, the Bad And The Ugly
Once Upon A Time In The West
High Noon
The Wild Bunch
High Plains Drifter
Django
The Searchers
Stagecoach
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid
The Outlaw Josey Wales
Fistful of Dollars
For A Few Dollars More
Ride The Hard Country
Django...Kill
It's worth mentioning that I'm not really that up to scratch on Westerns and there's a lot of fifties classics I've never seen.
I love me some westerns, and I'd say that's a pretty thorough list - all those movies are great. I assume you meant Ride The High Country a/k/a Guns in the Afternoon - that's one of my favourite Peckinpah westerns, and kind of slept-on imo. As far as slept-on Eastwood westerns go, the lack of mentions for Pale Rider in this thread would suggest it's a good candidate.
My Darling Clementine is one of my favourite post-war westerns, and arguably the best telling of the Wyatt Earp/Doc Holliday/Clanton gang tale.
In recent times, though, nothing's seeing The Proposition for me. They really brought it back hard with that one.
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dukeofdelridge said:
I liked Unforgiven when I first saw it, but like it even more after reading some smarty break it down in TNY in a pretty recent article on Eastwood: just like you movie guys are saying...that it was a commentary not only on Westerns, but Eastwood's career as well. That drawn-out scene when the kid gets his first chance to kill really is unbearable.
Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I like it. Don Siegel tried to do something similar with John Wayne in The Shootist - blatantly so in the opening montage. The personae of actors like Eastwood and Wayne in particular are so closely interwoven with western movie mythology that it becomes difficult to see their performances as just performances after a while, especially in their later westerns. I'm probably one of the few people on here who's old enough to remember the controversy caused by Wayne's first-ever on-screen death in The Cowboys in '72 - it's hard to imagine something so straightforward having quite that kind of impact on audiences nowadays.
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Great series. One of my all time favs. Always felt like if Shakespeare was alive, that would be the show he would write.
I remember watching Open Range in the theater. If you can watch it in some HD format on a big screen, it's a fairly decent flick (a lil slow), with a pretty great final showdown.
@ 4:19 :hard_as_fuck:
I think that vidja game dun scrambled your brain.
Yes, there be deep male emotions on display. Ladies' and whores' too. Brains and guts also.
No, there is little in the way of; shoe talk, foodie lunches, metrosexual art fag bffs, omg hair flicking or deafening ticking of biological clocks.
You sound emotional.
i grew up watching the og eastwood stuff and this movie ranks among the best in his career, westerns, and movies in general.
there's a reason eastwood bought the script and sat on it for over a decade before he thought he was the right age for the part.
you can always identify somebody who doesn't like Westerns when they recommend Dead Man as a great Western
i need to check out that show again. i remember enjoying it, and i haven't seen it since it aired.
didn't the show end with a cliffhanger and it never got renewed?
I love me some westerns, and I'd say that's a pretty thorough list - all those movies are great. I assume you meant Ride The High Country a/k/a Guns in the Afternoon - that's one of my favourite Peckinpah westerns, and kind of slept-on imo. As far as slept-on Eastwood westerns go, the lack of mentions for Pale Rider in this thread would suggest it's a good candidate.
My Darling Clementine is one of my favourite post-war westerns, and arguably the best telling of the Wyatt Earp/Doc Holliday/Clanton gang tale.
In recent times, though, nothing's seeing The Proposition for me. They really brought it back hard with that one.
Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I like it. Don Siegel tried to do something similar with John Wayne in The Shootist - blatantly so in the opening montage. The personae of actors like Eastwood and Wayne in particular are so closely interwoven with western movie mythology that it becomes difficult to see their performances as just performances after a while, especially in their later westerns. I'm probably one of the few people on here who's old enough to remember the controversy caused by Wayne's first-ever on-screen death in The Cowboys in '72 - it's hard to imagine something so straightforward having quite that kind of impact on audiences nowadays.
Great film.
I havent seen it since 82/83 on late night HBO.
Here's a damn good introduction to Spaghetti Westerns list with some preview clips:
http://www.avclub.com/articles/spaghetti-westerns,41344/
I really liked The Unforgiven when it came out, but yeah, this is on another level.