Did X-Clan ever make better songs than these?

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  • m_dejeanm_dejean Quadratisch. Praktisch. Gut. 2,946 Posts
    THe problem, for me, with the 2nd album were the beats were so recycled from shit you would have heard 1-2 years before. Especially at a time when many of their peers were trying to come up with new sounds, it felt like X-Clan was a few steps behind and still looping up "Atomic Dog" or some shit.

    That said, the album still had joints.

    "Cosmic Ark" is badass.
    Freaking the AWB (again) J Bros. sax and "Funky Sensation" to great effect.
    Brother J sounds amped on that track.

  • Lucious_FoxLucious_Fox 2,479 Posts
    They still freaked that shit.

    From talking to J, that was always his outlook. He cares less about "has this beat already been used?" than "do I want to rock this beat?" He told me about how when they did "Grand Verbalizer," the AWB sample had already been used a couple times, but he felt he could freak it in a different way, which I think he did.

    Cool.

    I always imagined what if X-Clan came w/ a new sound/production.

    Imagine some hot new producer at the time had laced them w/ track that were "theirs" as oppossed to "re-cycled" shit.

    The fact that they went in the "traditional" direction works for them in terms of the "pro-cultural" approach, but ive always wondered what would the overall outcome would have been if the beats were just as "forward/creative/customized" as the image they were bringing.

    U look at The Jungle Brothers - Done By The Forces Of Nature , and they were really tryin to bring that new shit.

  • johmbolayajohmbolaya 4,472 Posts
    U look at The Jungle Brothers - Done By The Forces Of Nature , and they were really tryin to bring that new shit.

    Then they made J. Beez Wit The Remedy[/b] and look what happened to them, they were on the edge of falling into Divine Styler land.

  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,473 Posts
    THe problem, for me, with the 2nd album were the beats were so recycled from shit you would have heard 1-2 years before. Especially at a time when many of their peers were trying to come up with new sounds, it felt like X-Clan was a few steps behind and still looping up "Atomic Dog" or some shit.

    That said, the album still had joints.

    "Cosmic Ark" is badass.
    Freaking the AWB (again) J Bros. sax and "Funky Sensation" to great effect.
    Brother J sounds amped on that track.

    Definitely. The drum programming on that song is great--really clipped, but really funky.

  • I'll ride for the X-Clan, The Dark Sun Riders and J for all reasons posted above as well of their excellent use of the term "sissy" which needs to be used more often.

  • DB_CooperDB_Cooper Manhatin' 7,823 Posts
    I listened to To The East Blackwards a couple of months ago and was almost embarrassed how dated it sounds. And "vainglorious" does not mean what they thought it meant.

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  • magneticmagnetic 2,678 Posts

    Great album.
    Those interludes are killer especially "Justice"

  • SIRUSSIRUS 2,554 Posts
    U look at The Jungle Brothers - Done By The Forces Of Nature , and they were really tryin to bring that new shit.

    Then they made J. Beez Wit The Remedy[/b] and look what happened to them, they were on the edge of falling into Divine Styler land.
    i ride for jbeez wit the remedy.

  • Lucious_FoxLucious_Fox 2,479 Posts
    The first album wasnt that original in their beats.


    Red, black and green loop was next level.

    Could u clarify...im disconnected.

  • m_dejeanm_dejean Quadratisch. Praktisch. Gut. 2,946 Posts
    Red, black and green loop was next level.
    Could u clarify...im disconnected.

    "Raise The Flag" is built around samples from



    I remember when I heard that on the radio before the album came out (first single, no?). It blew my 14-year old mind then and I think it still holds up.

  • johmbolayajohmbolaya 4,472 Posts
    i ride for jbeez wit the remedy.

    same here, and both of Divine Styler's albums

  • Lucious_FoxLucious_Fox 2,479 Posts
    and both of Divine Styler's albums

    Yes

    Divine Styler was supposed to be on The Jungle Bros.-If The Papes Come 12".
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