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Is anyone here still undecided?

magpiemagpie 160 Posts
edited November 2008 in Strut Central
i think im gonna sit this one outb,121b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/popcorn.gif" alt=""1/1
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  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    You're a f*cking idiot.
  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    And I would bet good money that you're a f*cking racist too, f*cking crumb.
  • onetetonetet 1,754 Posts
    paging david sedaris...
  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    Yeah might as well just delete this thread - just some cornball herb who's input / existence is completely a waste.
  • The_Hook_UpThe_Hook_Up 8,182 Posts
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  • DB_CooperDB_Cooper Manhatin' 7,823 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121And I would bet good money that you're a f*cking racist too, f*cking crumb. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121I've heard a lot of talk that there is no Bradley effect per se, but that some folks who won't vote for Obama because he's black are just telling pollsters that they're Undecided. So, not the Bradley effect in that they're not saying they will vote Obama, then switch in the booth, but still hiding the fact that they've made up their mind about the race. b, 21b, 21We'll see how the Undecideds break tomorrow. In an election involving an incumbent, the Undecideds usually break against the incumbent, But with no incumbent, If they're truly undecided, they'll split.
  • Young_PhonicsYoung_Phonics 8,039 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121i think im gonna sit this one outb,121b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/popcorn.gif" alt=""1/1 b, 21b, 21h,121
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  • jleejlee 1,539 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121And I would bet good money that you're a f*cking racist too, f*cking crumb. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121I've heard a lot of talk that there is no Bradley effect per se, but that some folks who won't vote for Obama because he's black are just telling pollsters that they're Undecided. So, not the Bradley effect in that they're not saying they will vote Obama, then switch in the booth, but still hiding the fact that they've made up their mind about the race. b, 21b, 21We'll see how the Undecideds break tomorrow. In an election involving an incumbent, the Undecideds usually break against the incumbent, But with no incumbent, If they're truly undecided, they'll split. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121I think 538.com had the best explanation for this. In that there are many plausible reasons any racist could give for not voting for Obama that are beyond his race. (Thin resume', pro-choice, etc, etc.) b, 21b, 21Point being, beyond pockets of very liberal areas in the US, I don't see why any racist wouldn't just use a more convincing excuse to say they are not voting for Obama than actually lie to a pollster.b, 21b, 21b, 21As for undecideds, there is one small pocket I could see out there (maybe not now, but as of a few weeks ago). Fiscal conservatives (i.e. rich people) that are anti-tax but also not necessarily big on the right-wing moral issues of the Republican party. I could see a person who doesn't agree with Obama's tax plan, but also isn't willing to jump on board the right-wing nutjob express either.b, 21b, 21Beyond that group, not sure who could really be still on the fence.
  • diane_dianediane_diane 104 Posts
    i'm decided, but i can understand if someone's vote is up in the air. if you are not a fan/supporter of either candidiate, then you might not believe in either candidate's platform. clearly the two are different but if neither fits into what you might believe, then it could be difficult to back a plan in which you don't believe. it doesn't necessarily have to be about the bradley effect.
  • barjesusbarjesus 872 Posts
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  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121i'm decided, but i can understand if someone's vote is up in the air. if you are not a fan/supporter of either candidiate, then you might not believe in either candidate's platform. clearly the two are different but if neither fits into what you might believe, then it could be difficult to back a plan in which you don't believe. it doesn't necessarily have to be about the bradley effect. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121F*ck that shit.
  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121And I would bet good money that you're a f*cking racist too, f*cking crumb. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121A racist would vote against Obama just because he's black, not abstain.b,121b,121Just like the racists who are voting for Obama just because he is black.
  • BurnsBurns 2,227 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121You're a f*cking idiot. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121Isnt this dude living in Hong Kong, Japan, or Australia anyways?
  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121Just like the racists who are voting for Obama just because he is black. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121FAIL.
  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121And I would bet good money that you're a f*cking racist too, f*cking crumb. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121A racist would vote against Obama just because he's black, not abstain.b,121b,121Just like the racists who are voting for Obama just because he is black. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/841.gif" alt=""1/1b,121b,121Another Rock-a-Logic classique!
  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121Just like the racists who are voting for Obama just because he is black. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121FAIL. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121You can call it whatever you're comfortable with.
  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    This thread is the official idiot test.
  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121And I would bet good money that you're a f*cking racist too, f*cking crumb. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121A racist would vote against Obama just because he's black, not abstain.b,121b,121Just like the racists who are voting for Obama just because he is black. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/841.gif" alt=""1/1b,121b,121Another Rock-a-Logic classique! b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Amazingly, this comes from something YOU said.b,121b,121You stated that you knew Liberals who were voting for Barack just because he is black and you admitted that by the definition of the word that's considered racism.....don't make me go back and find it.
  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121This thread is the official idiot test. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121Explain how voting or not voting for someone based on their race alone is not racism by the very strict definition of the word.
  • VitaminVitamin 631 Posts
    I'm voting for McCain. But if all I knew about the candidates was their race, I would vote for the black man because I think having a black president is a net benefit in light of our nation's white supremacist history. That doesn't make me racist. It makes me anti-racist, or eracist.
  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    The idea that black voters are racist if they are turning out for Obama solely because he's also black is a gross oversimplification of... everything.b,121b,121It presumes that these black folks would be voting for McCain if Obama was white. I don't have to remind anyone that black voters are in the vast majority Democratic and that the "if Obama was white then..." scenario would most likely result in many of them simply staying home, rather than voting for the other party.b,121b,121Doesn't hold water.
  • Pistol_PetePistol_Pete 1,289 Posts
    I'm not going to pull the racism card on this, but the fact that someone is undecided at this point is mindblowing.b,121You're just not paying much attention or you're a complete idiot. I think your right to vote should be taken away for a while if you sit this one out.b,121b,121ALSO - can we please figure out a way to get rid of the f*cking Yes on Prop 8 ad that is on this site as I type?!?
  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121The idea that black voters are racist if they are turning out for Obama solely because he's also black is a gross oversimplification of... everything.b,121b,121It presumes that these black folks would be voting for McCain if Obama was white. I don't have to remind anyone that black voters are in the vast majority Democratic and that the "if Obama was white then..." scenario would most likely result in many of them simply staying home, rather than voting for the other party.b,121b,121Doesn't hold water. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121JP....I didn't say these were black voters.b,121b,121ANYONE casting a vote strictly based on race and race alone is racist.b,121b,121On both sides of the aisle.
  • funky16cornersfunky16corners 7,175 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121The idea that black voters are racist if they are turning out for Obama solely because he's also black is a gross oversimplification of... everything.b,121b,121It presumes that these black folks would be voting for McCain if Obama was white. I don't have to remind anyone that black voters are in the vast majority Democratic and that the "if Obama was white then..." scenario would most likely result in many of them simply staying home, rather than voting for the other party.b,121b,121Doesn't hold water. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121JP....I didn't say these were black voters.b,121b,121ANYONE casting a vote strictly based on race and race alone is racist.b,121b,121On both sides of the aisle. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121b,121So who are we talking about here? Self-hating whites? Novelty whores?
  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121This thread is the official idiot test. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121Explain how voting or not voting for someone based on their race alone is not racism by the very strict definition of the word. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121It's about f*cking "being undecided" for whatever reason. If you're undecided you're an idiot.
  • FrankFrank 2,379 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121And I would bet good money that you're a f*cking racist too, f*cking crumb. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121A racist would vote against Obama just because he's black, not abstain.b,121b,121Just like the racists who are voting for Obama just because he is black. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121I think nobody at this point will vote for Obama because he's black, that's a crazy statement. I think that everybody with half a brain left should by now have come to the conclusion that there's really only one way this can go. If Obama doesn't win this, it'd me a major catastrophy. Not only does McCain clearly not have a believable concept ready how he's going to get you all out of this economic debacle, he just more or less fell apart during this campaign. This series of negative attacks and the constant steering away from the issues should have made it clear enough to even the most convinced republican that it is his patriotic plight to vote for Obama. Who would even want to seriosly picture Palin as a vice president? This shit isn't even funny anymore. The US would in the best case scenario end up as the laughing stock of the rest of the world. Seriously, don't let this happen. McCain is at best incompetent, he's not crazy but Palin is a raving lunatic. Even if nothing happens to McCain during his term, you can "betcha" that Palin will jump at any possibility to get some attention and that's never going to be pretty, it's going to be very, very embarrassing and if something does happen to McCain? -That's not far fetched, he's what 72? With a history of cancer? Who would seriously want to risk this? Beyond any reasoning of tax models and other different political positions, if you don't just know what you have to do here, there's something wrong with you. McCain shouldn't even land in the 40s.
  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121The idea that black voters are racist if they are turning out for Obama solely because he's also black is a gross oversimplification of... everything.b,121b,121It presumes that these black folks would be voting for McCain if Obama was white. I don't have to remind anyone that black voters are in the vast majority Democratic and that the "if Obama was white then..." scenario would most likely result in many of them simply staying home, rather than voting for the other party.b,121b,121Doesn't hold water. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121JP....I didn't say these were black voters.b,121b,121ANYONE casting a vote strictly based on race and race alone is racist.b,121b,121On both sides of the aisle. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121b,121So who are we talking about here? Self-hating whites? Novelty whores? b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Originally we were talking about someone who said they are not voting being accused of probably being racist.b,121b,121I pointed out that a REAL racist would vote AGAINST Obama, not stay home.b,121b,121And I added that ANYONE who casts a vote based strictly on a candidates race is racist by the definition of the word.
  • VitaminVitamin 631 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121This thread is the official idiot test. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121Explain how voting or not voting for someone based on their race alone is not racism by the very strict definition of the word. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121It is. But the charge of racism has its moral power because of our nation's unique history. Being a racist in 1964 meant you favored maintaining legal inequality between blacks and whites, it meant you favored keeping the federal government away from local and state governments overseeing a racial caste system. To vote for Obama because you see his presidency as the final corrective, or an important corrective, to this legacy is not racist.
  • DeegreezDeegreez 804 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121The idea that black voters are racist if they are turning out for Obama solely because he's also black is a gross oversimplification of... everything.b,121b,121It presumes that these black folks would be voting for McCain if Obama was white. I don't have to remind anyone that black voters are in the vast majority Democratic and that the "if Obama was white then..." scenario would most likely result in many of them simply staying home, rather than voting for the other party.b,121b,121Doesn't hold water. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121JP....I didn't say these were black voters.b,121b,121ANYONE casting a vote strictly based on race and race alone is racist.b,121b,121On both sides of the aisle. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121b,121So who are we talking about here? Self-hating whites? Novelty whores? b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Originally we were talking about someone who said they are not voting being accused of probably being racist.b,121b,121I pointed out that a REAL racist would vote AGAINST Obama, not stay home.b,121b,121And I added that ANYONE who casts a vote based strictly on a candidates race is racist by the definition of the word. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121Your logic is a flawed and simplistic breakdown of semantics, and by your definition a woman voting for Hilary would mean simply voting for her by virtue of being a woman would be sexist. This is simplistic and holds no water.
  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    Rock being right of Vitamin = img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nagl2.gif" alt=""1/1
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