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Are ebay buyers shook from the financial crisis?

erewhonerewhon 1,123 Posts
edited September 2008 in Strut Central
What's up? 1I took a month off and now I'm back again with auctions since Labor Day. Admittedly,1I don't have any holy grails up right now,1but there's plenty of bread and butter stuff that has always been good for at least the list price in the past. Has anyone else noticed a drop in the past few weeks? 1Is1it just my imagination? 1Are any of you buyers out there really tightening up your virtual wallets over this mess?b,121b,121George Bush says you should be shopping.
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  • street_muzikstreet_muzik 3,919 Posts
    My ebay game as slowed to a crawl. Thank goodness it's not my only hustle.
  • The_Hook_UpThe_Hook_Up 8,182 Posts
    yeah, Ive gotten less than $20 on quite a number of evergreen $50 records...
  • shooteralishooterali 1,591 Posts
    The Financial crisis shit has been going on for a minute now. I don't see much of a change. Euroman & Japanese are still ballin out on raers.b,121b,121LOOKb,121b,121a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170263585307&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007" target="_blank"1http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170263585307&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007/a1
  • RAJRAJ tenacious local 7,782 Posts
    It's still the "down" season if you ask me. Shit doesn't really kick into gear until October.
  • RerogRerog 569 Posts
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    b,121The Financial crisis shit has been going on for a minute now. I don't see much of a change. Euroman & Japanese are still ballin out on raers.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Shout out to board member High-C for getting that cheddar.
  • PABLOPABLO 1,921 Posts
    Yeah I'm kinda with Raj. Plus if you're selling globally I don't think it's gonna put that big of a dent in things (that's what I keep telling myself anyway as I get this 150+ Modern Soul & Funk batch ready for Sunday! img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /1)
  • hcrinkhcrink 8,729 Posts
    It seems a bit slow lately, but I hardly think the sky is falling. If anything, I think it might be more that the gap between "hot titles" and everything else has been widening in both directions for a while now.
  • RerogRerog 569 Posts
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    b,121The Financial crisis shit has been going on for a minute now. I don't see much of a change. Euroman & Japanese are still ballin out on raers.
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    b,121Shout out to board member High-C for getting that cheddar.1
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    b,121more like a shout out to a dude1for spending cheddar on a turd, that record is
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  • kidinquisitivekidinquisitive 1,627 Posts
    I've never lost so1many auctions in my life as I have recently, so some one is still spending.
  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
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    b,121It seems a bit slow lately, but I hardly think the sky is falling. If anything, I think it might be more that the gap between "hot titles" and everything else has been widening in both directions for a while now.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121This is exactly right. There's been a slow/steady dropoff in piecemeal1items which are now going for less and less. It's completely normal to find a big seller get $251for something and three other copies go either unbid or opening bid.1Rare and in demand titles continue to do well.
  • RAJRAJ tenacious local 7,782 Posts
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    b,121It seems a bit slow lately, but I hardly think the sky is falling. If anything, I think it might be more that the gap between "hot titles" and everything else has been widening in both directions for a while now.
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    b,121This is exactly right. There's been a slow/steady dropoff in piecemeal1items which are now going for less and less. It's completely normal to find a big seller get $251for something and three other copies go either unbid or opening bid.1Rare and in demand titles continue to do well.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121This happens EVERY SUMMER. It's fall1in a couple of days. If shit like this happens in November then we shall cry.
  • KrautbreaksKrautbreaks 276 Posts
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    b,121This is exactly right. There's been a slow/steady dropoff in piecemeal1items which are now going for less and less. It's completely normal to find a big seller get $251for something and three other copies go either unbid or opening bid.1Rare and in demand titles continue to do well.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121I have started so sell a 90% of my whole collection. What you say is true,b,121as i sold some 1k packages to a big dealer, who paid good but if you saw what heb,121got out of musically average records just by writing "private" and some pressing quantity ... it's just hillarious, as if i sold them myself (i don't do ebay anymore), i had got not 50% ...b,121b,121b,121Personally I am1quite1sure that this whole "via internet i can leave my local smell behind" thing is just a game1for some time. What you sell, another one will have on his list after your sale and so in the end there are more and more people going for the same stuff all the time first hypening things up for a short period but then heavily dropping prieces.b,121b,121And there has also been some heavy changes in the collector scene itself,b,121a LOT of guys only selling and if they buy something it's for 1/10 of value mentality.b,121b,121b,121When you say oversea1buyers you can bet that those have financial aims in mindb,121so the problem is not to have some good scores and lucky sales,b,121the problem will be to not lose confidence in what you are doingb,121(if done on a regular base), because you cannot surelyb,121calculate a certain income that will still be flowing next year by the same circumstances that you work today.b,121b,121b,121b,121So we all will meet in real life again,b,121the most to be1trusted thing in life is not digitaler hedonismusb,121but the1need for humans to be1in the middle of humans,b,121and there will be the place of business in the future, i am1sure!b,121b,121Ps. This whole summer/fall1sale number change has severly changed within the last few years, at least from my point of view making it not computable to rely on.
  • twoplytwoply Only Built 4 Manzanita Links 2,915 Posts
    I'm not trying to poke fun, but I really couldn't understand anything in that post.
  • coffinjoecoffinjoe 1,743 Posts
    i've had my best day, week &1month in 9/08b,121b,121yes some big items, b,121some $50 blew up to $500b,121but alsob,12198% of my $5 &1$10 reggae sold this week,b,121lps &1cdsb,121not bid up much if at all, b,121but damb, b,12195%+ soldb,121i'm shocked
  • KrautbreaksKrautbreaks 276 Posts
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    b,121I'm not trying to poke fun, but I really couldn't understand anything in that post.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Fun at least makes practicing to write in foreign internet forums more easy ;-)b,121b,121b,121Seriously i tried to express some somehow philosophical thoughts about vinyl lifeb,121if you are interested in what i wanted to say i could give it another try.
  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
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    b,121i've had my best day, week &1month in 9/08
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    b,121yes some big items,
    b,121some $50 blew up to $500
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    b,12198% of my $5 &1$10 reggae sold this week,
    b,121lps &1cds
    b,121not bid up much if at all,
    b,121but damb,
    b,12195%+ sold
    b,121i'm shocked
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121My reggie list from a couple weeks back went GREAT.
  • The_Hook_UpThe_Hook_Up 8,182 Posts
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    b,121My reggie list from a couple weeks back went GREAT.
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  • coffinjoecoffinjoe 1,743 Posts
    can't stop the yute of the world from sighting up jah
  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    Euroman dem need I and I rasta music star
  • magneticmagnetic 2,678 Posts
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  • coffinjoecoffinjoe 1,743 Posts
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    b,121My reggie1list from a couple weeks back went GREAT.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121you got some of that there reggie1music, magneticb,121b,121& whats up with that spiff you keep1talking aboutb,121b,121(i miss the old job sometimes)
  • ariel_calmerariel_calmer 3,762 Posts
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    b,121I've1never lost so many auctions in my life1as I have recently, so some one is still spending.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121....just not you 1img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bonus.gif" alt="" /1 b,121b,121But seriously, I see the same range. Some things I got for moderately cheap that usually go high, others I just got hammered on.
  • SurrealistSurrealist 218 Posts
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    b,121What's up? I took a month off and now I'm back again with auctions since Labor Day. Admittedly, I don't have any holy grails up right now, but there's plenty of bread and butter stuff that has always been good for at least the list price in the past. Has anyone else noticed a drop in the past few weeks? Is it just my1imagination? Are any of you buyers out there really tightening up your virtual wallets over this mess?
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    font class="post"1b,121In my opinion, it depends on whether or not the records you're selling are desireable to the buyers or not...I can always tell when someone is selling a bunch of ish they want to get rid of or if they're seriously considering the buyer...you can have great sales any time of the year - I thought early summer was going to be a terrible time, but with the sales I found I had a very captive audience (unfortunately almost all overseas buyers)...it also helps if there is some variety/mix of styles with your auctions...b,121b,121A friend of mine who is pretty successful with auctions might sell soul and funk 45s for one auction, and only garage psych and freakbeat 45s for the next...Your records don't have to be raers obviously (as you seem to agree), but in this economy1it does help to sell to a broader audience - including more and more UK and Japanese customers...Australian customers and German customers tend to spend a lot on rare or just desireable music too.b,121b,121To answer the1question, there are always going to be people who are tightening up on their wallets...but those people either don't want to pay a high price for an item they know they can possibly find digging, by trade or cheaper - or - they weren't too serious abt winning the auction anyway...b,121b,121just an opinionb,121b,121Sadly, at least on ebay, in my experience the American audience just isn't there like it used to be...back in the Goldmine era, pre-ebay, pre-internet days, so to speak
  • LoopDreamsLoopDreams 1,195 Posts
    This "financial crisis" is a Stateside problem right now, the rekid business is1international. The meltdown hasn't gone global yet, when/if it does THEN it will affect e-bay sales.
  • cpeetzcpeetz 2,112 Posts
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    b,121i've had my best day, week & month in 9/08
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    b,121yes some big items,
    b,121some $50 blew up to $500
    b,121but also
    b,12198% of my $5 & $10 reggae sold this week,
    b,121lps & cds
    b,121not bid up much if at all,
    b,121but damb,
    b,12195%+ sold
    b,121i'm shocked
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    b,121My reggie list from a couple weeks back went GREAT.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Good to see reggae is still going strong.b,121Although I'm more of a buyer than a seller since it's so scarce around here, I cry.b,121Sucks that both Roots Archives and Blood And Fire got rid of their Classifieds section.b,121I know the reasons for it, but keeping people abreast of auctions doesn't pollute the sites IMHO.b,121Connecting sellers and buyers should be applauded if you ask me.b,121It makes everybody happy.
  • KrautbreaksKrautbreaks 276 Posts
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    b,121This "financial crisis" is a Stateside problem right now, the rekid business is1international. The meltdown hasn't gone global yet, when/if it does THEN it will affect e-bay sales.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121I doubt that. US has the bonus of being "cheap" due to a massive loss1in dollar,b,121that's nothing less than a trend thing. And ... maybe i am ignored (words should be clear) ... we have had our crisis1in Europe for years now, those Japanese bidders have long vanished too.b,121b,121b,121If the dollar as a currency continues to exist, you will be in a good positionb,121as the crowd moves where it's "cheap and easy". You could see that with Asia and you have seen that with Eastern Europe, who 's really having the problem are the people who are not able (due to a much too strong currency) to deal with exploding living costs. b,121b,121Another factor is the status of American music in a whole,b,121which has alway benefit from a strong marketing activity during the golden era of record sales (50s+?)b,121b,121b,121To speak for the European jazz for example,b,121prices have MASSIVELY dropped over the last years,b,121maybe it was just a hype, but maybe it will come again,b,121then it's a situation formidable to score in Europe.b,121b,121It's already a common thing to watch Eastern Europe dealers with huge listsb,121of all those kraut-treasury trying to score on record fairs,b,121they seem to have a growing scene in Russia- b,121anyone was there to comment?
  • shooteralishooterali 1,591 Posts
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    b,121This "financial crisis" is a Stateside problem right now, the rekid business is1international. The meltdown hasn't gone global yet, when/if it does THEN it will affect e-bay sales.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121By Monday if things aren't handled well with the congress folls then those worriers will start to become realistic. All this talk about bail outs will soon affect the Asian markets and Japan folks my stop gripping sooner than you think.
  • KrautbreaksKrautbreaks 276 Posts
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    b,121It's already a common thing to watch Eastern Europe dealers with huge lists
    b,121of all those kraut-treasury trying to score on record fairs,
    b,121they seem to have a growing scene in Russia-
    b,121anyone was there to comment?
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Haha!b,121b,121When i wrote that i was just friday nightb,121and i was spending this night awake compiling records for the fair which i attended today.b,121b,1211/3 of my sales this day went to: Russian/Polish dealers going for all the BRAIN label stuff and other progressive things.b,121b,121What they still need to know is: private pressings from in-the-know collectors are the thing to go for, not necessarily the known-for-ages stuff but they will realize over time *gg*b,121b,121b,121I am really curious if tomorrow, on the record fair in Frankfurt there will be other Eastern Europe dealers.b,121b,121b,121b,121That said, b,121it's all about dem men from Eastern Europe ;-)
  • spelunkspelunk 3,400 Posts
    Not really, but I have noticed that an increasing number of the French dudes who I have sold records to in the past are trying to sell off Modern records from their collections.b,121b,121Almost all the records from my past 45s list went to either Japan or the UK.
  • kalakala 3,361 Posts
    i had 20 out of 30 sell todayb,121all the hot shit went to germany,finland,UK,NL and Japan at regular market prices b,121a few under a few over but all pretty1much what i expected with some nice suprises thrown in
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