Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121Oil burns off (no leaks) b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121my best buds wife owns a 2000 passat v6 that has 100k miles and has gone to shit. she had it serviced all the time at the dealership according to the service schedule etc and it still went to shit.b,121b,121there is a constant smell of burning oil, all the check engine, check oil, check your car from blowing up lights are all on on her dashboard, the cd changer stopped working the first year and there is a poker chip holding the front passenger window up. i'm sure there are a whole lot of toher problems that arent visible.b,121b,121vw needs to stop making damn commercials and start paying overtime for that research and development and/or quality control.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121wow all of you guys have owned jettas and your not strippers? Are your other cars eclipses? b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121I'm not sure where you're coming from on that one. Most Jetta owners I know (my sister included) just want a modestly-styled car to get them to college or around town for the groceries.
really? most jetta or eclipse owners that I knew were strippers or becky's. Owning a Jettas is just barely a little bit better than owning a Del Sol, that's how I view those things.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121really? most jetta or eclipse owners that I knew were strippers or becky's. Owning a Jettas is just barely a little bit better than owning a Del Sol, that's how I view those things. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Well, an Eclipse - that I'll give you.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121okay, so i know there's a bunch of you independent free-thinkers on here that own Apple computers and drive VW's...b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121OUCH!!!..I guess I fall into that category. And I ride a Trek! Shameless. Anyway...sheesh so many VW horror stories. I bought my 2001 Jetta Wagon used, and was definitely afraid to hop on the German wagen after riding Honda and Toyota (Accord and Camry of all things) prior to that. The electrical horror stories were more than enough...I had heard them, checked out the lemon site, and all that...but still decided to go for the VW.b,121b,121And? So far it's been 7 great years and little to no problems! I love my car, it's been running great so far with only necessary routine maintenance. I also have found that maintenance has NOT been any more expensive for this car than my Honda- when I had my Honda I took it to Art's Automotive in Berkeley, and although they do stand by what they do and do it at high quality, they are hella expensive!b,121b,121So now I go to Roger at Berkeley Auto Service and not only is he and his brother the two best mechanics I have ever met, they are super reasonably priced, and good quality doods. I recommend them for all local VW drivers- even SF peeps...they are worth it!b,121b,121I do fantasize about an Audi A3 TDI one day...
I own and fix old cars for a hobby. Never owned a VW but I know a fair bit about them. I'll say this: b,121b,121Like any car buy a Haynes car manual. Simple how-to books that are specific to every car out there. So, so useful. But many new car owners I talk to don't know about them. b,121b,121/font1
Quote:/font1h,121b,121People should really know what they are getting themselves into when they buy German. Fun to drive NOT fun to fix. It baffles my mind when I see all these college kids driving VWs because they are thee worst.b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121This is what I was gonna say. Despite how common VW are, parts are still far more expensive than others. I mean, big picture: you might do alright - take care of your car, check levels, regular maintenance and not have problems. But if you got problems then damn you got 99 problems.
I had a jones for all things A2 related, so been through 3 Golfs (all 89-90's GTI 16v) and a Corrado VR6 (used the A2 chassis). And heapfuls of cash on paint jobs, de-locking, suspension upgrades, clown alarms, flush tailgate, alloys... b,121b,121Had plenty of glitches that were the result of my own dabbling, but never really had any major problems. That 1.8 16v Bosch unit was bomb-proof. Would still redline in 5th even with 174,000 on it. The gearboxes would groan if abused, and reverse used to fail first. But no biggies, apart from a clutch failure. And they handled like Go Karts.b,121b,121Corrado was a let down. Too comfy. Had to be doing 20 mph more to get a buzz. Front end was too heavy; understeered badly on wet roundabouts. I put mine into a tree which was physically and financially painful.b,121b,121My advice is always do oil and filters every 6K/6 months, whichever comes first. Regardless of the manufacturer's sched.b,121b,121I left the VW brand behind when I needed something bigger with room to carry loads of kit. The Passat Synchro V6 appealed but it's very easy to break into. The later Golf/Jetta kit is too heavy and I have to give the central digit to VW for making it virtually impossible to replace lightbulbs on these later models - a cynical ploy to give the dealers work to dismantle the front end to do it. In the UK, dealer rates start around 50 sterlings an hour. 200 an hour for London official BWM shops.b,121b,121Currently running 2 Saab 9-5 Aeros, wagon and saloon. Had bearings on both, suspension replaced on one at 150,000. An alarm siren replaced, an ABS module fail, a couple of air-con motors fail, and a power-steering belt fail. Both still running strong at over 150K each. 2.3 Turbo engine is fiyah.b,121b,121Have contemplated an Audi S8 (the old shape) as I always loved the shape, but with petrol over 5 sterlings a gallon now, you would have to be nuts to commute in a 4.2 litre V8. Every trip to the shops would be a tenner.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121Have contemplated an Audi S8 (the old shape) as I always loved the shape, but with petrol over 5 sterlings a gallon now, you would have to be nuts to commute in a 4.2 litre V8. Every trip to the shops would be a tenner. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121 img src="http://www.canadiandriver.com/testdrives/images/01s8_1.jpg"1 b,121b,121 b,121b,121I have an A8 with the old classic body shape.. which looks the same. It's spacious, FAST, comfortable, and reliable in the winter. But yeah... gas mileage is horrible and the maintenance is expensive. I'm lucky that I put 3,000 miles on a car / year so I can swing it.b,121b,121On a positive note, these cars depreciate like crazy. So you can get one for a great price. The MSRP for my car in 2000 was $65,000 and I got it for 11 grand with 88,000 miles and new timing belts. You just have to find a good honest Garage that won't gauge you because there will be maintenance.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121The MSRP for my car in 2000 was $65,000 and I got it for 11 grand with 88,000 miles and new timing belts. You just have to find a good honest Garage that won't gauge you because there will be maintenance. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Heh, there was a reason that it cost that much new, and you see why when you add up the cost of the parts if they start to fail... Like the Corrado, it wasn't a massive production run, so even the rear side windows were ??398... I also chatted to an S8 owner on a previous job and he had to take his car 60 miles each way to an Audi dealer with the "Special" big 4wd tracking/alighnment kit that not ever dealer has.b,121b,121But you get so much for the money used - overnight heat storage, 4wd, electric everything. The other thing I love about the A8 is that it's aluminium (or alooominum) and double-glazed. That is a baller move right there. I think the one you have is the best looking car ever out of Audi. Afterwards, Audi saloons all got cheap chrome strips across the trunk lip and all began to look like the same car viewed from different distances.b,121b,121RS4 (the 2001 shape) would be ill too.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121There are no Jiffy-Lubes in the Bay? b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121I'm not in the Bay but I stopped taking my VW to jiffy a long time ago. They don't know which kind of oil to use and when you tell them synthetic it's a 50/50 chance they'll actually use it.b,121b,121After the 2nd time taking it to my mechanic for a flush I was over it.b,121b,121My 2 cents, the service is what kills you not the parts. The parts are not SO expensive as everyone makes them out to be. At least not enough difference to break the bank. But if you don't have someone who knows VW back and forth working on it.... haha good luck. And most folks that know VWs also know what their service is worth.b,121b,121The power train (after rebuilding the engine and transmission) is great on mine... the electrical and interior parts are all shit. Low quality, bad design.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121 The other thing I love about the A8 is that it's aluminium (or alooominum) and double-glazed. That is a baller move right there. I think the one you have is the best looking car ever out of Audi. Afterwards, Audi saloons all got cheap chrome strips across the trunk lip and all began to look like the same car viewed from different distances.b,121b,121RS4 (the 2001 shape) would be ill too. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121What about the S5? The principal designer at Audi (I forget his name) says it is the most beautiful car he's ever designed. I agree.
okay, so i'm gonna throw on the new rotos and pads, then sell it because i've been finding a lot of good deals on TL's and whatnot recently. i had my title at my moms since it's safe there and she just went to the post office this morning to send it out. so if anyone wants to buy a '97 Trek with 104k on it, ho-ller!
rather than starting a new thread, i thought i would ask here. i'm thinking about buying my first car. i know absolutely nothing about cars but i'm looking at around 10k for a used car and 20k for a new one. i don't really have any specific needs beyond thowed a/c and good gas mileage. any recommendations or sites to look at?
I just bought a used 2008 mazda6. It had 13,000 miles on it and cost me $15,000. Still under factory warranty too.b,121b,121Gas mileage is nice and I'm in Texas so you know the A/C is on point. I would suggest this car.b,121b,121Honda's are nice too and should be in the same price range. Before this Mazda, I had a 94 Accord that had 284,000 miles on it the day I sold it.
oh i forgot, no hondas. there's too many of the mufuckaz here, they get boosted way too much, and i really don't need to be another aZn with a civic/accord. serious
Quote:/font1h,121b,121oh i forgot, no hondas. there's too many of the mufuckaz here, they get boosted way too much, and i really don't need to be another aZn with a civic/accord. serious b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121get an itegra, the 3rd body style, circa 94. fun, cheap, reliable, (but also sorta aZn I guess).
Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121So now I go to Roger at Berkeley Auto Service and not only is he and his brother the two best mechanics I have ever met, they are super reasonably priced, and good quality doods. I recommend them for all local VW drivers- even SF peeps...they are worth it!b,121 b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121For any 'big' work I take it to this place called Fritz & Peters in Oakland. Expensive ($500 timing belt son), but obviously cheaper than the dealership ($650 timing belt). They've been solid -- only let down is the $95 oil change they're trying to serve up. I ended up getting it done at the dealership w/synthetic for $60
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121oh i forgot, no hondas. there's too many of the mufuckaz here, they get boosted way too much, and i really don't need to be another aZn with a civic/accord. serious b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121get an itegra, the 3rd body style, circa 94. fun, cheap, reliable, (but also sorta aZn I guess). b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121sorta aZn??? No no...it's the aZn calling card!
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