Soul Strut 45

BaptBapt 2,503 Posts
edited May 2008 in Strut Central
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  • JoeMojoJoeMojo 720 Posts
    Is it just me or is the price totally insane? I know I have a copy of this somewhere and I always figured it for a $5 record.

  • RAJRAJ tenacious local 7,782 Posts

  • SoulhawkSoulhawk 3,197 Posts
    a $5 record.

    good luck even getting that


  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    a $5 record.

    good luck even getting that


    I'm sayin'. The only copy I've ever seen is the one I own.

    I have no idea what it's supposed to be going for, but how often do you see a Dakar record that ISN'T by Tyrone Davis?

  • SoulhawkSoulhawk 3,197 Posts
    The only copy I've ever seen is the one I own.

    really? I see this all the time - maybe one per 5000 tyrone davis 45s

    haha

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    The only copy I've ever seen is the one I own.

    really? I see this all the time - maybe one per 5000 tyrone davis 45s


    do you see it OUT IN THE FIELD cheap?

    or AT THE RECORD CONVENTION for $10 and up?

    big difference between the two

    and people seem to think that CONVENTION/$10 is "dollarbin common" (wrong)

  • SoulhawkSoulhawk 3,197 Posts
    record conventions aren't 'the field'???

    I'm just saying you see it around, collections, stores, old stock, whatever

    it's not rare, you could go grab a few buy it nows off ebay if you felt like

    a copy just went unsold at $5


  • kidinquisitivekidinquisitive 1,627 Posts
    Rarity/price aside, that's a dope little 45 B/W this 45 does not really turn up in the Bay Area.

  • breadwinnerbreadwinner 535 Posts
    http://www.raresoulman.co.uk/d/63787/SMITH%2C+FLOYD

    15 pounds on john manship = $5 ebay 45

  • Agent45Agent45 451 Posts
    There are a bunch of copies available at other online record sites between $9 and $50. Have at 'em.

  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,903 Posts

  • holmesholmes 3,532 Posts
    how often do you see a Dakar record that ISN'T by Tyrone Davis?


    Probability % of what the next worthwhile Dakar 45 you find will be:

    Tyrone Davis - 53.8%
    Hamilton Bohannon - 15.4%
    Otis Clay - 7.7%
    Donald Height - 7.7%
    Otis Leavill - 7.7%
    Smokestack - 7.7%

    Everything else < 1%

    (Judging by my 45 collection)

  • deLYSdeLYS 388 Posts


    Please to recommend other Floyd Smith? This 45 and Floyd's Blues are the only 3 tracks Ive heard hype over. After hearing the latter, Benny Goodman tried to give him exposure in his group but couldn't free his contract from The Clouds of Joy. He happily found Charlie Christian instead who ends up noted as the worlds premier guitar soloist and Floyd forever anecdoted alongside him. Buuut playing that shit on your laps way smoother IMO, and I just think how straight up out there that track sounds for '39.
    SACRED STEEL!!!!!




    So anything else good? Hy tone? Montclairs? Relaxin' with... Production credits? He seems full of music, looking for more...thx!!!

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    how often do you see a Dakar record that ISN'T by Tyrone Davis?


    Probability % of what the next worthwhile Dakar 45 you find will be:

    Tyrone Davis - 53.8%
    Hamilton Bohannon - 15.4%
    Otis Clay - 7.7%
    Donald Height - 7.7%
    Otis Leavill - 7.7%
    Smokestack - 7.7%

    Everything else < 1%

    (Judging by my 45 collection)

    oh, yeah, forgot about that Bohannon. actually id put otis leavill in third place - 1969's "i love you" and 1970's "love uprising" were big hits and turn up on the regular.

    everybody else >1%

    (judging by the shops and cheaper convention dealers ive seen around town)

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
    how often do you see a Dakar record that ISN'T by Tyrone Davis?


    Probability % of what the next worthwhile Dakar 45 you find will be:

    Tyrone Davis - 53.8%
    Hamilton Bohannon - 15.4%
    Otis Clay - 7.7%
    Donald Height - 7.7%
    Otis Leavill - 7.7%
    Smokestack - 7.7%

    Everything else < 1%

    (Judging by my 45 collection)

    oh, yeah, forgot about that Bohannon. actually id put otis leavill in third place - 1969's "i love you" and 1970's "love uprising" were big hits and turn up on the regular.

    everybody else >1%

    (judging by the shops and cheaper convention dealers ive seen around town)

    Yeah, I'd have Otis Leavill 3rd, and maybe Johnny Sayles 4th but even those
    are a massive drop-off. I've never seen Donald Height on Dakar even though I
    have him on like 5 other labels. I had a 45 from Gregory James Experience but
    it was a weak track. There is another one from them that has good songs from
    the LP.

    And "Soul Strut" by Floyd Smith is a killer track. One of the best $5 shing-a-ling 45's out there.

  • holmesholmes 3,532 Posts


    Yeah, I'd have Otis Leavill 3rd, and maybe Johnny Sayles 4th but even those
    are a massive drop-off. I've never seen Donald Height on Dakar even though I
    have him on like 5 other labels. I had a 45 from Gregory James Experience but
    it was a weak track. There is another one from them that has good songs from
    the LP.

    And "Soul Strut" by Floyd Smith is a killer track. One of the best $5 shing-a-ling 45's out there.
    I've never seen a Johnny Sayles Dakar in the field, the Donald Height is ok from what I can remember, not nearly as good as the Shout one or two that I have though I remember thinking, it's later though, getting a bit close to modern. For what it's worth I've never seen the Floyd Smith in the real world either.

    Here is the label's 45 run, I don't even think I've seen a Dakar Major Lance come to think of it, only in the e-world. There's definitely a carpload of Tyrone Davis 45s. Some of these titles never turn up.

    1449 - Shirley Karol - Just To Make You Happy / You Don't Want Me Anymore - 1967
    1450 - Major Lance- I Have No One / Do The Tighten Up - 1967
    1451 - Jalynne Sound - Cowboys To Girls / Anything You Wanna Do - 1967
    1452 - Tyrone Davis - Can I Change My Mind / A Woman Needs To Be Loved ??? 1968
    1453 - Shirley Karol ??? My Baby???s Gone Away / Faith - 1968
    600 - Marshall and The Chi-Lites - Baby It's Time / Price Of Love - 1968
    601 - Lee Charles - It's All Over Between Us / Then Would You Love Me - 1968
    602 - Tyrone Davis - Can I Change My Mind / A Woman Needs To Be Loved - 1968
    603 - The Visitors - Until You Came Along / I'm In Danger - 1968
    604 - Floyd Smith - Getting Nowhere Fast / Soul Strut - 1968
    605 - Tyrone Davis - Is It Something You've Got / Undying Love - 1969
    606 - Shirley Karol - Faith / My Baby's Gone Away - 1969
    607 - Johnny Sayles - Somebody's Changing / You're So Right For Me - 1969
    608 - Major Lance - Follow The Leader / Since You've Been Gone - 1969
    609 - Tyrone Davis - All The Waiting Is Not In Vain / Need Your Lovin' Everybody - 1969
    610 - Otis Clay - You Hurt Me For The Last Time / Baby Jane - 1969
    611 - Tyrone Davis - When I'm Not Around / If It's Love That You're After - 1969
    612 - Major Lance - Shadows Of A Memory / Sweeter As The Days Go By - 1969
    613 - The Visitors - I'm Gonna Stay / Lonely One, Only Son - 1969
    614 - Otis Leavill - I Love You / I Need You - 1969
    615 - Tyrone Davis - You Can't Keep A Good Man Down / If I Didn't Love You - 1969
    616 - Tyrone Davis - I Keep Coming Back / Turn Back The Hands Of Time - 1970
    617 - Otis Leavill - Glad I Met You / Why Why Why - 1970
    618 - Tyrone Davis - I'll Be Right Here / Just Because Of You - 1970
    619 - Jean Shy - Keep An Eye / Love Had To Be You - 1970
    620 - Otis Leavill - I Need You / Love Uprising - 1970
    621 - Tyrone Davis - Let Me Back In / Love Bones - 1970
    622 - Otis Leavill - I'm So Jealous / You Brought Out The Good In Me - 1970
    623 - Tyrone Davis - Could I Forget You / Just My Way Of Loving You - 1971
    624 - Tyrone Davis - One-Way Ticket / We Got Love - 1971
    625 - Otis Leavill - There's Nothing Better / Glad I Met You ??? 1971
    626 - Tyrone Davis - You Keep Me Holding On / We Got A Love No One Can Deny - 1971
    4501 - Tyrone Davis - I Had It All The Time / You Wouldn't Believe - 1972
    4502 - Ben Monroe - Since You Came Into My Life / ? - 1972
    4503 - Smokestack - Wall Between Us / Take A Look - 1972
    4504 - Jean Shy - I'll Belong To You / There's Nothing Between Us - 1972
    4505 - Wales Wallace - A Love Like Mine / Forever And A Day - 1972
    4506 - Cotton - I Know / Givin??? It All I Got - 1972
    4507 - Tyrone Davis - Was I Just A Fool / After All This Time - 1972
    4508 - Doug Waynes - Oowee Baby I Love You - Part 1 / Oowee Baby I Love You - Part 2 - 1972
    4509 - Mister T - Love Uprising / Saving My Love For You - 1972
    4510 - Tyrone Davis - Come And Get This Ring / After All This Time - 1972
    4511 - Otis Leavill - It Must Be Love / I Still Love You - 1972
    4512 - Chuck Jackson - I Forgot To Tell You / The Man And The Woman - 1972
    4513 - Tyrone Davis - Was It Just A Feeling / If You Had A Change In Mind - 1972
    4514 - Cotton - Sweet And Funky Feelin' / Was It Just A Feelin??? - 1972
    4515 - The Aqua Sonics - Funky Fatso / Groove - 1972
    4516 - ?
    4517 - Brunswick Sound - Love Is / Quiet Nights Of Quiet Stars - 1973
    4518 - Bohannon Band - Save Their Souls / Stop And Go - 1973
    4519 - Tyrone Davis - How Could I Forget You / Without You In My Life - 1973
    4520 - Channel 3 - The Sweetest Thing / Someone Else's Arms - 1973
    4521 - Hamilton Bohannon - Happiness / The Pimpwalk - 1973
    4522 - B.W. and The Next Edition - Stay With Me Baby / Peace Of Mind - 1973
    4523 - Tyrone Davis - There It Is / You Wouldn't Believe - 1973
    4524 - Jay Johnson - Ooh Baby - Part 1 / Ooh Baby - Part 2 - 1973
    4525 - Hamilton Bohannon - Run It Down Mr. DJ - Part 1 / Run It Down Mr. DJ - Part 2 - 1973
    4526 - Tyrone Davis - Wrapped Up In Your Warm And Tender Love / True Love Is Hard To Find - 1973
    4527 - Donald Height - A Mean Thing / Sompin' Of Sompin'
    4528 - Hamilton Bohannon - Fat Man / Red Bone
    4529 - Tyrone Davis - I Wish It Was Me / You Don't Hve To Beg Me To Stay - 1974
    4530 - Sidney Joe Qualls - Where The Lilies Grow / I'm Being Held Hostage - 1974
    4531 - Donnie Vann - Turn Me Loose / I'm The Same One - 1974
    4532 - Tyrone Davis - What Goes Up (Must Come Down) / There's Got To Be An Answer - 1974
    4533 - Gregory James Edition - Sunday Lady / Sunday Lady - 1974
    4534 - Hamilton Bohannon - Happiness / Truck Stop - 1974
    4535 - Hamilton Bohannon - Keep On Dancin' - Part 1 / Keep On Dancin' - Part 2 - 1974
    4536 - Tyrone Davis - Happiness Is Being With You / Where Lovers Meet - 1974
    4537 - Sidney Joe Qualls - How Can You Say Goodbye / I Enjoy Loving You - 1975
    4538 - Tyrone Davis - I Can't Make It Without You / You Wouldn't Believe - 1975
    4539 - Hamilton Bohannon - Have A Good Day / South African Man - Part 1 - 1975
    4540 - B.W. and The Next Edition - Chosen One / Work, Work, Work - 1975
    4541 - Tyrone Davis - Homewreckers / This Time - 1975
    4542 - The Equations - One, Two, Three Hamilton Street / I Love Your Love - 1975
    4543 - Bobbie Knight and Universal Lady - Power Greater Than Man / ? - 1975
    4544 - Hamilton Bohannon - Footstompin' Music / Dance With Your Partner - 1975
    4545 - Tyrone Davis - A Woman Needs To Be Loved / Just Because Of You (I Can See My Way Through) - 1975
    4546 - Sidney Joe Qualls - Run To Me / Please Help Me - 1975
    4547 - Eddie McLoyd - Once You Fall In Love / Baby Get Down - 1975
    4548 - Bobby Knight and Universal Lady - Somebody Touch Me (In The Right Place) / A Woman will Make You Love - 1975
    4549 - Hamilton Bohannon - Disco Stomp - Part 1 / Disco Stomp - Part 2 - 1975
    4550 - Tyrone Davis - Turning Point / Don't Let It Be Too Late - 1975
    4551 - Hamilton Bohannon - Bohannon Beat / East Coast Groove
    4552 - ?
    4553 - Tyrone Davis - So Good (To Be Home With You) / I Can't Bump - 1976
    4554 - Hamilton Bohannon - Dance Your Ass Off / Happy Feeling - 1976
    4555 - ?
    4556 - Donald Height - I Choose You / ? - 1976
    4557 - Ben Monroe - Broken Home / This Melody Is For My Baby - 1976
    4558 - Tyrone Davis - I Can't Bump - Part 2 / Saving My Love For You - 1976
    4559 - Alvin Cash - Doin' The Ali Shuffle / The Feeling - 1976
    4560 - Hamilton Bohannon - Gittin' Off / Come Winter - 1976
    4561 - Tyrone Davis - Ever Lovin' Girl / Forever - 1976
    4562 - John Freeman - Dynamite - Part 1 / Dynamite - Part 2 - 1977
    4563 - Tyrone Davis - Where Lovers Meet (At The Dark End Of The Street) / It's All In The Game - 1977
    4564 - Sandi Jones - Tuscaloosa's Ca lling Me (But I'm Not Going) / New York From The Air - 1977
    4565 - The Complaments - Chickens / Falling In Love - 1977
    4566 - First Love - Don't Say Goodnight / Love Me Today - 1977
    4567 - ?
    4568 - AM-FM - You Are The One / ? - 1977
    4569 - Charlie Singleton and Stargasm - I Wanna Boogie With You / Rock-A-Bye Baby - 1977

  • I remember seeing a pink labelled 45 with black print on it called "soul strut" or "soul struttin'". Didn't pick it up but it sounded quite good and wasn't on a major label as far as I remember...

    Anybody know what it could be?

    Peace,

    Dress

  • FlomotionFlomotion 2,391 Posts

    4568 - AM-FM - You Are The One / ? - 1977

    B-side's the instrumental.

  • DrWuDrWu 4,021 Posts
    Major Lance's 'Follow the Leader' is one of my favorite Dakar cuts.

  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    This is a funny this thread came up - I am playing the Floyd Smith 45 a lot these days, Getting Nowhere Fast side. I got mine for $10 and feel it's worth every penny!

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    the Donald Height is ok from what I can remember, not nearly as good as the Shout one or two that I have though I remember thinking, it's later though, getting a bit close to modern.

    There are two Donald Height singles listed in that discog, so I'm assuming you're referring to the one from '76 as being the "modern" side. (The other 45 is from '73.)

  • ostost Montreal 1,375 Posts

    4568 - AM-FM - You Are The One / ? - 1977

    B-side's the instrumental.

    Not to mention the fact that it's from 1981 and not 1977...

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    4564 - Sandi Jones - Tuscaloosa's Calling Me (But I'm Not Going) / New York From The Air - 1977

    Now are those two cool song titles or WHAT?

    I'm guessing this HAS to be a country record...

  • The_Hook_UpThe_Hook_Up 8,182 Posts
    I remember seeing a pink labelled 45 with black print on it called "soul strut" or "soul struttin'". Didn't pick it up but it sounded quite good and wasn't on a major label as far as I remember...

    Anybody know what it could be?

    Peace,

    Dress

    John Phillips Soul & His Stone Marching Band - The Soul Strut / That Memphis Thing(Pepper)

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
    I also have a 45 on Laurie, "Soul Struttin'" by Jamie Lyons,
    kind of a bubblegum blue eyed soul dancer.

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    I also have a 45 on Laurie, "Soul Struttin'" by Jamie Lyons,
    kind of a bubblegum blue eyed soul dancer.

    Lyons was the lead singer of the Music Explosion ("Little Bit O'Soul"). This same song was also recorded by the Ohio Express on their first album, Beg, Borrow & Steal.

  • holmesholmes 3,532 Posts
    the Donald Height is ok from what I can remember, not nearly as good as the Shout one or two that I have though I remember thinking, it's later though, getting a bit close to modern.

    There are two Donald Height singles listed in that discog, so I'm assuming you're referring to the one from '76 as being the "modern" side. (The other 45 is from '73.)
    Just checked my list & yeah, It's the "I Choose You" one from 76. It's a promo with the same song both sides.

  • holmesholmes 3,532 Posts
    This same song was also recorded by the Ohio Express on their first album, Beg, Borrow & Steal.
    I love Ohio Express' first album, that "Beg Borrow Steal" 45 is a good one to play out. I remember being pretty surprised how good that 45/album was compared to the later stuff that I knew better but found a bit light.

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    This same song was also recorded by the Ohio Express on their first album, Beg, Borrow & Steal.
    I love Ohio Express' first album, that "Beg Borrow Steal" 45 is a good one to play out. I remember being pretty surprised how good that 45/album was compared to the later stuff that I knew better but found a bit light.

    This was before producers Kasenetz & Katz hooked into the bubblegum deal. But even the Ohio Express' self-titled second LP (w/"Yummy Yummy Yummy") has some legitimately good psych, not at all like their hits.

  • luckluck 4,077 Posts
    I also have a 45 on Laurie, "Soul Struttin'" by Jamie Lyons,
    kind of a bubblegum blue eyed soul dancer.

    ...and don't forget Alex Williams and the Mustangs' Soul Strut pt. 1 / pt. 2 (on Soul Track)
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