Endtroducing vs Donuts
Fatback
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I like these kind of albums while I'm riding my bike. It seems that Endtroducing is the constantly rode for hip hop instrumental album. Shit I even spelled it wrong and the correction came up in google spell check. Anyways, I didn't jump for Donuts when it first came out. That's just me. I need things to settle and marinate. Now I can it's the best instrumental hip hop record I've ever heard.
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Endtroducing is more heavily layered and sequenced/arranged with samples and donuts is made up of more tracks, shorter in length and more focused on the gritty beats and the heavy chopping. I'll ride for both , though Donuts has had much more play lately. Shit, I forget where I put my copy of Endtroducing..
endtro didn't hold up as well as I thought it would ....over 12 years
donughts has more subtle depth
After the dumb'n'bass terds post, this has redeemed you in my eyes - there is hope for you yet! I will make a mix of good dumb'n'bass, and once you've let it marinate for a while, you might like it.
I like Donuts, but could live with less siren.
both albums depend on my mood for the most part. donuts gets play during the day out skating and doin whatever it is i do whereas endtroducing probably gets more play at night or if it's cold/rainy. i had some shit goin on when i first heard endtroducing so it kinda brings me back to all that bullshit.
It's pretty much impossible for me to listen to Endtroducing the way I did when it first came out due to how much it's now been played to death by BBC programmes over her. Pretty much any trailer for a documentary about warzones will feature either long stem or napalm brain and just the other day they even had Organ Donor playing over the end of Traffic Cops.*
I do however remember how much my face melted when I first got home and put it on. I know it's not fashionable to show the love these days but can't think of that many albums that have knocked me sideways the same since. Sounded entirely different to anything out there at the time for me at least.
*Disclaimer I was waiting for The Apprentice which was on afterwards - i do not and never will condone the watching of Traffic Cops.
That's exactly what I was about to say. They are both great examples of the uses/possibilities of samples, however. If I was teaching a class on that, I would present both albums together on some compare and contrast shit.
Props. Gotta respect someone who sees an opportunity and jumps on it with the subtle demonstration of taste we see here.
i throw away your record collection every week.
if i said this ,toys would be screaming for ban/"fuck you kala i have no respect for you" etc
oi vey
Cool! Where?
yeah didn't do the whole thing on one of those small battery op roland samplers like mad lib always use and some 45s?
I thought about that too. While Shadow would build these suites and that seems like a more complex compositional structure, I think Donuts comes together in the same way. (Even thought they are technically a bunch of little songs.) In the end, Donuts has more going on both technically and aesthetically.
But I'm just an old dude with an expensive Blue Note fetish. What do I know?
i thought i heard that dill pot a lot of donuts together in garage band while he was in the hospital...
one quality that both albums share is that their respective sounds are very consistent all the way through
Point being, Donuts contains a breezy soul quality that is completely lacking from Shadow's more trip-hop-oriented album. Everything about Endtroducing is so darned deliberate and well, nerdy that it's the equivalent of rubbing a plastic pocket protector against your ear until blood starts oozing out. Actually, it's not that bad...but hell no, it hasn't stood up against the test of time. That look-at-me-I'm-melancholy-in-a-cinematic-way vibe just doesn't cut it nowadays.
did i miss something? what happened the day it came out other than it coming out?
i bought donuts the day it came out. i put it in the cd player in my truck, listened and was unimpressed. but i didn't take it out of the cd player for over a week. donuts is the best inst hip hop album.
i got a promo copy of endtroducing when it came out. put it on the turntable and listened to it. took it off and put it on the shelve where it stayed to this day. i really, really couldn't stand to listen to that boring crap.
harvey said it better.
Fine. How about a record like Donuts, but better. I'm interested. Thanks.
Yeah, they're no C&C Music Factory.
ALWAYS
I love DJ Shadow's record too. Not so much as on that record, but on Shadow's later albums, I really appreciated the well-thought-out badness. Shadow put a lot of time and energy making some prog-rock instrumental hip-hop shit that doesn't really work but I still appreciate it somehow. I still love tracks like "What Does Your Soul Look Like" and "Midnight in a Perfect World" from Entroducing -- they are deep cuts that envelop you in the sound, but Dilla manages to evoke a deeper feeling in a 2-minute chop.
But try as they might, no one has been able to match the sounds on either one of those records.
I'll take the Private Press over Endtroducing.
There it is! Finally, the SOULSTRUT review of everything