I like the work he did in the 60's, especially Blind Faith, liked the first solo album, the stuff he did with Delaney & Bonnie, the Derek & The Dominoes thing, but after that he changed his approach. People worship 461 Ocean Boulevard[/b], and the album is good but to me not mindblowing.
His "God" status comes from what he did before Cream, and having Cream just boosted his profile among those so-called "blues revivalists". If anything, his guitar work and interviews referring to his influences did help in bringing deserved attention to the original blues guitarists that gave him and every other person their inspiration. There's a good reason Clapton was blown away by Duane Allman, and that's because Allman was a hell of a lot better. To me. Of course, I'm getting into a middle school-styled argument and I don't want to do that.
Clapton is good and great, but he went on cruise control. There's a recent DVD where he was a part of a blues festival, does he take himself back on that one?
As someone said, there's a way of playing that makes him worth listening to, and that "tone", whatever it may be, is his style, it's still there.
Oh, definitely. I will fully co-sign that the Beatles were highly influenced and tried to copy great R&B artists like Little Richard, Arthur Alexander, etc, as well as girl groups like the Shirelles, the Ronettes, etc. They were also just as influenced by rockabilly/rock n roll artists like Buddy Holly and the Everly Brothers.
But the "Blues" is something else altogether, IMO. Like how "Spidey" talked about Hendrix coming over ... but the famous UK beat bands were not influenced by Hendrix until years later, and the sound that came from him influence was often far from the Blues. The UK bands like the Stones, Animals & Yardbirds got the Blues bug from the original artists touring the UK throughout the late 50's/early 60's ... John Lee Hooker, Sonny Boy Williamson and Jimmy Reed were the biggest influences on these acts, due to both the popularity of their early 60's recordings, and their presence in Great Britain as touring artists.
No doubt.
Hendrix came to the UK and reminded them of how its really done.
Hendrix came to the UK and reminded them of how its really done.
I would argue that Hendrix came to the UK and showed them where it could go next.
Sounds to me like the same argument.
No, my point is that the UK bands were stuck in a rut of trying to copy the "old masters" and play licks and solos just like their idols - the arrival of Hendrix on the scene showed that the Blues could be taken to new places, more modern and progressive sounds.
Hendrix could play traditional Blues as well as anyone:
... but he was more interested in taking the Blues places it had never been.
Awesome - this thread was started because of the Black Lips thread, and in that thread I was going to defend the clip of them on Conan by saying that it sounds like the Monks, and this thread wraps up with an EDDIE SHAW IS GOD.
Awesome - this thread was started because of the Black Lips thread, and in that thread I was going to defend the clip of them on Conan by saying that it sounds like the Monks, and this thread wraps up with an EDDIE SHAW IS GOD.
The Monks are one of the reasons I know god Rock exists.
actually i'm mostly talking about the cream years. the other shit i could(n't) ( skel!) care less about.
Thanks Ham, made my weekend
btw, Clapton is better at guitar by a factor of 1000 than me, and know that however long I practised I could not approach the same level. Therefore he, along with myriad others, is a guitar god for me. That he is important in the development and spread of rock and blues guitar is undeniable. Only the scale of that importance is debatable. Creativity? Patchy, no doubt. But 'Layla'....unfukwithable. And his old guitars sell for incredible amounts at auction; there's clearly people out there who put him right up there. But very few on this board, obviously.
And his old guitars sell for incredible amounts at auction; there's clearly people out there who put him right up there. But very few on this board, obviously.
There are people who have paid five figures for Beatles LPs. Millions of people have bought the Eagles' Greatest Hits. Hell, I'm sure Yngwie Malmsteen's sweat-laden unitard would sell for well over $1G. But those people are not the arbiters of anything other than their own taste.
Back around 1969, I was 12, we would argure who was the worlds greatest guitarist, Clapton or Hendrix. I think this was a big question among rock fans, but maybe it was just because we were 12 and didn't know any better.
As I stated before, and Rockadelic confirmed, much of what people think of as Clapton leads are played by other people.
All the high notes in Layla are Duanne Allman, Clapton plays the repeated low riff. Deal.
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His "God" status comes from what he did before Cream, and having Cream just boosted his profile among those so-called "blues revivalists". If anything, his guitar work and interviews referring to his influences did help in bringing deserved attention to the original blues guitarists that gave him and every other person their inspiration. There's a good reason Clapton was blown away by Duane Allman, and that's because Allman was a hell of a lot better. To me. Of course, I'm getting into a middle school-styled argument and I don't want to do that.
Clapton is good and great, but he went on cruise control. There's a recent DVD where he was a part of a blues festival, does he take himself back on that one?
As someone said, there's a way of playing that makes him worth listening to, and that "tone", whatever it may be, is his style, it's still there.
No doubt.
Hendrix came to the UK and reminded them of how its really done.
I would argue that Hendrix came to the UK and showed them where it could go next.
American Blues = UK Blues? (in 67?)
Sounds to me like the same argument.
Also if you have a problem calling me Spidey say, Di*go.
- spidey
I saw him on that tour....George Terry stood off to the side and played all of Clapton's supposed leads.
Please don't make me list the 99 players better than EC.
nah. I think he sayin theyvr alraedy bulit their own sound but Hendrix was new direction.
im sayin he helped them reconnect w/ the OG feel, even though he wasnt a retro dude.
No, my point is that the UK bands were stuck in a rut
of trying to copy the "old masters" and play licks and
solos just like their idols - the arrival of Hendrix on
the scene showed that the Blues could be taken to new places,
more modern and progressive sounds.
Hendrix could play traditional Blues as well as anyone:
... but he was more interested in taking the Blues places it had never been.
Fair enough. I'd say it's part marketability and part "I want that tone." The same phenomena exists with SRV.
Shouldn't it just be the B.B. King model in that case?
Sorry that I got aggy.
Eddie Shaw IS GOD. DEAL.
Awesome - this thread was started because of the Black Lips
thread, and in that thread I was going to defend the clip of
them on Conan by saying that it sounds like the Monks, and this
thread wraps up with an EDDIE SHAW IS GOD.
The Monks are one of the reasons I know
godRock exists.Thanks Ham, made my weekend
btw, Clapton is better at guitar by a factor of 1000 than me, and know that however long I practised I could not approach the same level.
Therefore he, along with myriad others, is a guitar god for me.
That he is important in the development and spread of rock and blues guitar is undeniable.
Only the scale of that importance is debatable.
Creativity? Patchy, no doubt. But 'Layla'....unfukwithable.
And his old guitars sell for incredible amounts at auction; there's clearly people out there who put him right up there. But very few on this board, obviously.
You're right - DUANE ALLMAN IS GOD
There are people who have paid five figures for Beatles LPs. Millions of people have bought the Eagles' Greatest Hits. Hell, I'm sure Yngwie Malmsteen's sweat-laden unitard would sell for well over $1G. But those people are not the arbiters of anything other than their own taste.
As I stated before, and Rockadelic confirmed, much of what people think of as Clapton leads are played by other people.
All the high notes in Layla are Duanne Allman, Clapton plays the repeated low riff. Deal.