Tower of Power

spelunkspelunk 3,400 Posts
edited December 2007 in Strut Central
I have heard some hate on these dudes recently. I ride though. Their horn lines are just so damn together. And I love funk bands who lean towards some sweet soul. For some reason they are like the Doobie Brothers of funk music to me. But maybe that's just because they are best buddies in the dollar bin.Discuss.
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  • I have heard some hate on these dudes recently.

    I don't see why; I'm with you, they were a great band.

    I ride though. Their horn lines are just so damn together. And I love funk bands who lean towards some sweet soul.

    That's another thing that stands out about the T.O.P., compared to other funk bands - they could write songs, not just vamps. I mean, nothing wrong with chants over vamps, like War, Mandrill and all the rest, but I kinda like the fact that Tower of Power's funkiest stuff sounds a little more thought-out (without being stiff and premeditated).

    For some reason they are like the Doobie Brothers of funk music to me. But maybe that's just because they are best buddies in the dollar bin.

    ...and they were also both interracial bands who recorded for Warner Brothers, just like Little Feat and Graham Central Station!

  • DJCireDJCire 729 Posts
    I have heard some hate on these dudes recently. I ride though. Their horn lines are just so damn together. And I love funk bands who lean towards some sweet soul. For some reason they are like the Doobie Brothers of funk music to me. But maybe that's just because they are best buddies in the dollar bin.

    Discuss.


    TOP has some joints. I grew on this right here as my parents used to play this on the regular. "What is hip" is that shit amoung many other tracks

    I don't see how you could hate this group...

  • JectWonJectWon (@_@) 1,654 Posts
    What? Anyone who sleeps on TOP needs to burn some green and listen to both sides of dis':





    Boom, done.

  • What? Anyone who sleeps on TOP needs to burn some green and listen to both sides of dis':





    Boom, done.


  • akoako https://soundcloud.com/a-ko 3,413 Posts

    yep, great album...i always wondered what the story was with that cover, that definitely looks like an actual sign, i wonder if they hung it up there for the photo shoot, or if its just some masterful pre-photoshop photoshopping...

  • RishanRishan 454 Posts
    huge

    that one and the self titled are just very high quality albums, and Lenny Williams is pure class.

    even on the other records like 'urban renewal' and 'bump city', which are not nearly as good, there are some excellent songs, especially the ballads.

    i love this group.



  • Not as polished as their later stuff, but I will ride for this all day

  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    Nothing but love here. I think Garabaldi is the drummer on their best stuff. If he's drumming it's good. I love Bump City, You've Got To Funkifize, Down To The Night Club and Still A Young Man are all on that one record. Also Skating On Thin Ice, Main Nerve and Flash In The Pan. I had a roommate way back in the day who did not like them much. She would always ask me why she had to funkifize.

    Lets not forget all the studio work they did too.

  • mattBmattB (FTB) Anywhere 673 Posts
    Im a big fan too. And I really dig their later stuff.
    Eg: T.O.P. and Souled Out have some great tracks.
    Plus the 20+ minute monster version of "Knock Yourself Out"
    on Live and in Living Colour is raw and funky as hell.

    I saw them live at Blue Note in Tokyo a few years ago and they killed it.
    But damnit, they didnt play my all time fav: Soul Vaccination.

    Cold Blood are the shit too. Wasnt there was some cross pollination of
    TOP and CB members at some point?

  • akoako https://soundcloud.com/a-ko 3,413 Posts


    Not as polished as their later stuff, but I will ride for this all day

    there was a point in time where i kept seeing this record for $40...i think i made a post about it on here a few years ago. luckily i got mine for $5 and then another copy at goodwill

  • What? Anyone who sleeps on TOP needs to burn some green and listen to both sides of dis':





    Boom, done.

    I don't know if it's the region I live in or people buy TOWER POWER records like crazy. Around here their stuff never see's the light of day in the local record shops.

  • Great cover. Album came with an iron-on as well, right?


    yep, great album...i always wondered what the story was with that cover, that definitely looks like an actual sign, i wonder if they hung it up there for the photo shoot, or if its just some masterful pre-photoshop photoshopping...

  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    anyone got this?

  • kennykenny 1,024 Posts

    That two instrumental tracks on that Lights Out San Francisco album is dope too.

  • "sparkling in the sand" and "you're still a young man"....



  • bluesnagbluesnag 1,285 Posts
    anyone got this?

    Never ever seen this. What's the deal?

  • hcrinkhcrink 8,729 Posts
    $40 for East Bay Grease is totally absurd.

  • [color:red] $40 for East Bay Grease is totally absurd. [/color]

    Maybe it's a regional thing, but of all the T of P albums out there, from what I've seen East Bay Grease pops up the least!

  • hcrinkhcrink 8,729 Posts
    I mean, yeah, It's definitely less common than their later albums, and it's often pretty beat, but it's hardly rare here in California. Given a couple of weeks I'm sure I could turn up several passable copies.

  • [color:red]I mean, yeah, It's definitely less common than their later albums, and it's often pretty beat, but it's hardly rare here in California.[/b][/color]

    Yeah, here in Chicago it seldom, if ever, shows up. You're lucky to find a San Francisco Records sampler LP with a cut or two from East Bay Grease on it.

  • Never ever seen this. What's the deal?

    I've heard a few stories, one was that it was a compilation album put together without the group's permission, although the cover art was apparently the original artwork for Bump City[/b]. I remember reading it at bumpcity.com before it became towerofpower.com (the Bump City site was much more informative), and there's some info about it here:
    http://www.soulmusiconline.com/bumpcity/recordings/music/cds-lps/import/index.html

    One site also claims that it was a "Warner Special Products" album made for the Philippines market, and a number of them were imported into the U.S. before the supply was cut off. Nonetheless, *someone* approved it if it had the original Bump City[/b] artwork.

    But yeah, it's just a compilation of what had come out on Warner Bros. up to that point.


  • yep, great album...i always wondered what the story was with that cover, that definitely looks like an actual sign, i wonder if they hung it up there for the photo shoot, or if its just some masterful pre-photoshop photoshopping...

    That's the work of Bruce Steinberg, who did countless albums for Warner Bros. back then, and later for other labels.



    http://brucesteinberg.com/



  • I have heard some hate on these dudes recently. I ride though. Their horn lines are just so damn together. And I love funk bands who lean towards some sweet soul. For some reason they are like the Doobie Brothers of funk music to me. But maybe that's just because they are best buddies in the dollar bin.
    Discuss.

    East Bay Grease[/b] was once the raerest of the bunch, but I found my copy for a dollar about a year before Rhino released it on CD, so it's regional. The rarity is because it remained out of print compared to the other albums in their discography. There's no reason for it to be any higher than $15, and that would have to be NM.

    I generally prefer the albums they did before they went to Columbia, although I'll admit it's been a few years since I've heard them so I'd probably have to hunt them down again.

  • holmesholmes 3,532 Posts
    I like the s/t LP & also have a bunch of their WB 45s that are all great listens. For me they kinda slipped during the Columbia stuff but that WB stuff is classic.

  • [color:red]I generally prefer the albums they did before they went to Columbia, although I'll admit it's been a few years since I've heard them so I'd probably have to hunt them down again. [/color]

    I used to have promo Columbia singles of "You Ought To Be Having Fun" and "We Came To Play." They weren't bad, but you could tell that disco kinda took their edge off (just like the other funk bands who survived past 1975). I'm sticking with the Warners and San Francisco sides.

  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    I have heard some hate on these dudes recently. I ride though. Their horn lines are just so damn together. And I love funk bands who lean towards some sweet soul. For some reason they are like the Doobie Brothers of funk music to me. But maybe that's just because they are best buddies in the dollar bin.
    Discuss.

    East Bay Grease[/b] was once the raerest of the bunch, but I found my copy for a dollar about a year before Rhino released it on CD, so it's regional. The rarity is because it remained out of print compared to the other albums in their discography. There's no reason for it to be any higher than $15, and that would have to be NM.

    I generally prefer the albums they did before they went to Columbia, although I'll admit it's been a few years since I've heard them so I'd probably have to hunt them down again.

    $40.00 was typical for a NM EBG to the international market a few years ago.

    People get confused all the time about the value of condition to a serious collector. Your $1 bin copy is probably worth $1.

  • hcrinkhcrink 8,729 Posts
    $40.00 was typical for a NM EBG when sold by AnthonyPearson[/b] a few years ago.

  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    $40.00 was typical for a NM EBG when sold by AnthonyPearson[/b] a few years ago.

    This is my point. AP (and other honest and trusted sellers) sold NM records to a community of serious collectors who are not interested in your dollar bin beaters.

  • hcrinkhcrink 8,729 Posts
    My dollar bin beaters?

    I mean sure, for a few years a few years ago you could sell a lot of fairly common records of this variety to euro man for ridiculous magic land prices... and Anthony probably still could... but does that make them "$40 records"? I guarantee you that if I pick up every clean copy of East Bay Grease I come across for under $10 in 2008 I'll end up being stuck with bunch.

  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    My dollar bin beaters?

    I mean sure, for a few years a few years ago you could sell a lot of fairly common records of this variety to euro man for ridiculous magic land prices... and Anthony probably still could... but does that make them "$40 records"? I guarantee you that if I pick up every clean copy of East Bay Grease I come across for under $10 in 2008 I'll end up being stuck with bunch.

    Again, a clean copy is very different than a NM copy as graded by someone like AP. Because beat copys are not rare they are worth not much. Because clean copys are harder to find they worth a little more. Because NM copies are hard to find, they are worth not a little more, but a lot more. If you live in Europe, or New England, where the record didn't sell, they would be worth even more.

    I agree that you would be stuck with a bunch. You don't have AP's reputation for tough grading and selling NM records.
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