Rock-Jazz Fusion, who created it?

Mangoman · June 2005

I mean who is credited for starting this? Miles Davis, Coltrane, Eddie Harris, Gil Evans, Jamal, Miles's band Hancock? Or has this been broken down on this site before? Jaco Pastorius described is music as Punk Jazz... , interesting... Who else would have described their music as Punk Jazz?...Also let's not for get the Vocalist of this time, Al Jarreau, Flora Purim, who else???? My mind is just seconds away from shutting down, hopfully we can colabarate soon...

Cosmo · June 2005

My mind is just seconds away from shutting down, hopfully we can colabarate soon...

Killing it right now, son.

TheMack · June 2005

Bitches Brew doggie

luck · June 2005

I mean who is credited for starting this? Miles Davis, Coltrane, Eddie Harris, Gil Evans, Jamal, Miles's band Hancock? Or has this been broken down on this site before?

Jaco Pastorius described is music as Punk Jazz... , interesting... Who else would have described their music as Punk Jazz?...

Also let's not for get the Vocalist of this time, Al Jarreau, Flora Purim, who else????

My mind is just seconds away from shutting down, hopfully we can colabarate soon...

Oh, dear.

ariel_calmer · June 2005

I mean who is credited for starting this? Miles Davis, Coltrane, Eddie Harris, Gil Evans, Jamal, Miles's band Hancock? Or has this been broken down on this site before?

Jaco Pastorius described is music as Punk Jazz... , interesting... Who else would have described their music as Punk Jazz?...

Also let's not for get the Vocalist of this time, Al Jarreau, Flora Purim, who else????

My mind is just seconds away from shutting down, hopfully we can colabarate soon...

Oh, dear.

nuff said.

beirut · June 2005

I mean who is credited for starting this? Miles Davis, Coltrane, Eddie Harris, Gil Evans, Jamal, Miles's band Hancock? Or has this been broken down on this site before?

Jaco Pastorius described is music as Punk Jazz... , interesting... Who else would have described their music as Punk Jazz?...

Also let's not for get the Vocalist of this time, Al Jarreau, Flora Purim, who else????

My mind is just seconds away from shutting down, hopfully we can colabarate soon...

coltrane?

DocMcCoy · June 2005

I mean who is credited for starting this? Miles Davis, Coltrane, Eddie Harris, Gil Evans, Jamal, Miles's band Hancock? Or has this been broken down on this site before?

Jaco Pastorius described is music as Punk Jazz... , interesting... Who else would have described their music as Punk Jazz?...

Also let's not for get the Vocalist of this time, Al Jarreau, Flora Purim, who else????

My mind is just seconds away from shutting down, hopfully we can colabarate soon...

I remember reading somewhere that a review of "Songs Of Innocence", possibly in Downbeat, was responsible for the first use in print of the term "jazz fusion". I'd imagine that "jazz-rock" would probably have first been applied to Miles' work c. "Bitches Brew"/"Live Evil", but that came a little later.

upskiboo · June 2005

Who created it....tuff question, in the late 60??s music styles began to melt together, Jimi Hendrix influenced many, he was doing some real early mid 60's psychrock(fusion), early on jazzmusicians would do like beatles covers and their record would be half rock half jazz,...TONS of souljazz people like Cannonball Adderley and Horace Silver ect ect shaping the shapes to come,.... a couple weeks ago I was checking my dads Coltrane's (early 60's stuff) and there was some serious modal bassline heat, could easely have been a jazzrock line from the 70's....!

Check out George Duke's Save The Country, The Fourth Way s/t, or early John Klemmer....

(also check out Joe Zawinul on Vortex and Steve Marcus Tomorrow Never Knows also on Vortex both from 1968,... and a wholelota 60's psychrock bands experimenting with jazz elements....)

Credit wise: Miles Davis took it to another level !

peace-

gruntgravel · June 2005

Larry Coryell and Elvin Jones doing Stiffneck is a very early example of combining elements of jazz and rock.

LaserWolf · June 2005

pickwick33 · June 2005

Who created it....tuff question, in the late 60??s music styles began to melt together, Jimi Hendrix influenced many, he was doing some real early mid 60's psychrock(fusion), early on jazzmusicians would do like beatles covers and their record would be half rock half jazz,...TONS of souljazz people like Cannonball Adderley and Horace Silver ect ect shaping the shapes to come,.... a couple weeks ago I was checking my dads Coltrane's (early 60's stuff) and there was some serious modal bassline heat, could easely have been a jazzrock line from the 70's....!
Check out George Duke's Save The Country, The Fourth Way s/t, or early John Klemmer....
(also check out Joe Zawinul on Vortex and Steve Marcus Tomorrow Never Knows also on Vortex both from 1968,... and a wholelota 60's psychrock bands experimenting with jazz elements....)

Credit wise: Miles Davis took it to another level !

peace-

And don't forget the Free Spirits, featuring Larry Coryell. One album on ABC in 1967.

Birdman9 · June 2005

Miles Davis took it to another level[/b]

busted down the door, set the stage for all the major 'fusion' players from Joe Zawinul, Wayne Shorter, Chick Corea, Gary Bartz, John McGlaughlin Herbie Hancock, and soooo many more. I am sure there may be some song, LP or artist some one can point out that establishes an earlier point of arrival, but Miles' contribution is the definitive one.

The_Hook_Up · June 2005

also...dont forget the rockers who went the jazz route...I would say Soft Machine and Frank Zappa would be the pioneers coming from the other direction...then somewhere around 72 or 73, Satan himself took the ball and created pure fucking gross evil with it....

Dubious · June 2005

herbie mann baby!

Birdman9 · June 2005

also...dont forget the rockers who went the jazz route...I would say Soft Machine and Frank Zappa would be the pioneers coming from the other direction...then somewhere around 72 or 73, Satan himself took the ball and created pure fucking gross evil with it....

Blood Sweat & Tears and Chicago went a long way toward bring all that stuff to the center and into the mainstream. A lot of rock bands employed jazz cats at that time too.

faux_rillz · June 2005

This book is a pretty thorough exploration of the subject:

I really hate this crap for the most part...

peacefulrotation · June 2005

And don't forget the Free Spirits, featuring Larry Coryell. One album on ABC in 1967.

This is one of the early lp's that came to mind...

MorseCode · June 2005

When its bad, its reeeeaaaaaly bad, but at its best, it just hits you with that inexplicable uggghh. Especially in the late 70's. I fucks with it. Stone Alliance anyone?

upskiboo · June 2005

And don't forget the Free Spirits, featuring Larry Coryell. One album on ABC in 1967.

This is one of the early lp's that came to mind...

Early fusion sound,... what about Chico Hamilton's El Chico album on Impulse, recorded August 1965

pickwick33 · June 2005

And don't forget the Free Spirits, featuring Larry Coryell. One album on ABC in 1967.

This is one of the early lp's that came to mind...

Early fusion sound,... what about Chico Hamilton's El Chico album on Impulse, recorded August 1965

I don't hear anything particularly rockish on that album.

upskiboo · June 2005

And don't forget the Free Spirits, featuring Larry Coryell. One album on ABC in 1967.

This is one of the early lp's that came to mind...

Early fusion sound,... what about Chico Hamilton's El Chico album on Impulse, recorded August 1965

I don't hear anything particularly rockish on that album.

More like a progressive jazzlatin vibe, still the bassline riffs and Gabor Szabo's improvising sounds imo like elements of early fusion

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