SPORTS, STEROIDS, DISCUSS
yuichi
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Regarding the last one, Marion Jones. I heard on NPR today that the second place finisher is tied to allegations of performance enhancers as well. 
How many more cheaters do we have to witness?
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I would definitely rock that jacket.
Right, that's what makes it cheating. They are all gifted, but
they would either all have to use drugs or all not use drugs for
it to be a level playing field. I see it as cheating more in individual
events like track & field and cycling than in team sports like baseball
and football, but it's a pretty disturbing practice no matter where
it's done - if only for the damage it can do to the user. Suicide for
a couple years of success, in some cases.
with this i would agree. it still takes talent to actually make contact with a 98mph fast ball, etc. yet... i feel athletes these days abuse/taint the rules/game. then again what form of entertainment is pure these days?
no where to be found in october related
Well they should legalize it. If the athlete wishes to use it, they can. At least that way there would be more control about how it's used and if it's being used properly. As far as steroid use and suicide, there's no conclusive proof that steroids causes suicide. Reading all the articles about steroids and suicide comes off as a cope out without fully looking into the person's lifestyle and personality. If a person has to use steroids to get bigger, it seems like they already have some personal issues.
And what about the ones who don't?
This is my argument. Steroids are for people that somehow couldn't manage to reach the top with just their own power, or feel the need to sustain their peak form for an abnormally long duration. I wouldn't know about the expectations and pressure facing the top athletes in the world, but I do know that it takes away from integrity of sports in general. The saddest part of this whole thing is, it's not just sports. This problem extends to every facet of our life. Sometimes, you don't need to be #1 to be a winner.
In summary,
Steroids: Sports
Cheat Sheet: Examinations
my 2cents.
That's their choice. Just like it's their choice to train X amount of hours a day.
I was being figurative, at least, I wasn't refering to people
taking their own lives because of steroids, I meant that
steroids made them sick and shortened their lives.
This is what I don't get about you.
You start a topic and people actually respond seriously
to it, and you come back with some BS like this. What were
you hoping for with the thread, if not for people to discuss ...
... as called for in the topic name itself?
It's not about managing to reach the top. It's about reaching their natural peak and exceeding it with steroids. Look at the bodybuilders like Ronnie Coleman and Dorian Yates versus the natural bodybuilders, they're in a different league.
I'm not advocating steroid use and I would never use it myself. I'm just saying i understand why they would use it. It's what they do for a living.
The one universal rule in sports is that performance enhancing drugs are illegal. These are rules. Just like there are rules in society. You can't participate in insider trading, you can't manipulate revenue, and you can't shoot someone with a handgun.
Dude, you're trippin'. Chill out. You could notice that my first response was to your post. I appreciate the dialogue.
A doc on extreme steroid use called "The Man Whose Arms Exploded"
featuring Greg Valentino. Dude's arms are bigger than my waist.
He looks like he's got huge apple fritters for arms with fists attached to the end.
Performance enhancing drugs have been in use for years, why do people all of a sudden care? Steroids wasn't banned from the Olympics till 1975. Steroids wasn't even illegal in the US till 1990. Not to mention that certain steroids only last in the system for a few weeks. So if a player is doing some cycles of steroids during off season, and they get off them during the season, it won't even be detected in his system.
Rules are being made daily, as we delve deeper into the matter. This is true with sports, this is true with society. The reason everyone is talking about it, is because the biggest stars are found to have been using them. Marion Jones was stripped of all 5[/b] Olympic medals. This type of shit is unheard of.
I'm watching part 3 right now and I feel like I'm about to pass out and / or puke. Seriously feeling light headed...
3 minutes into the 3rd video..I had to close the page. Fuck.
For once, let's give a fuck about the kids.
NOW WE KNOW! And knowing is half the battle...
Set up two identical NFL's, or NBA's, or MLB's, or NHL's, or PGA's, or UFC's, or bowling leagues. Allow members of one league to use any type of drug they would like whenever they want, from coffee to crack. Urine test the other league before each game. Which one do you think would draw a bigger audience?
DAMN girl is just FINE straight up.
Agreed. I'm vegan and I use fresh lime juice as a deodorant (don't laugh - it works).
Make your kids follow an organic vegan diet? Well that's just crazy talk. Sunny D, Burger King and Frosted Flakes are much better for growing children. And once they're grown, Olive Garden and Red Bull will make them healthy adults.
Best post in the thread.