Forbes: Hip-Hop's Cash Kings

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http://www.forbes.com/2007/08/15/hip-hop-millionaires-biz-cx_lg_0816hiphop.html?partner=alertsHip-Hop Cash KingsForbesBy Lea Goldman with Jake Paine08.16.07While most of us look forward to retirement, Shawn Carter, better known to the planet as master rapper Jay-Z, couldn't stand the view from the sidelines following his 2003 farewell The Black Album. Despite a frenetic schedule as president of Def Jam Recordings and co-founder of its ultra-successful Roc-A-Fella Records imprint, Jay-Z managed to squeeze in a comeback last year with Kingdom Come, his 11th studio album, which debuted at the top of the pop and rap music charts, selling some 2 million copies.But those weren't the only paychecks coming in. Jay-Z also owns the 40/40 Club sports bar franchise, with locations in New York and Atlanta, and a small stake in the NBA's New Jersey Nets. (He's often photographed in courtside seats alongside his girlfriend, pop superstar Beyonc??.) Plus the native New Yorker (from Brooklyn's hardscrabble Marcy Projects) collects income from blue-chip endorsement deals with Budweiser, Hewlett-Packard (nyse: HPQ - news - people ), and General Motors (nyse: GM - news - people ). All told, Jay-Z banked an estimated $34 million in 2006, earning him the top spot on Forbes' first-ever list of hip-hop Cash Kings[/b].Unlike traditional music genres like pop, rock and country, whose artists generally make the bulk of their money selling albums and touring, hip-hop has spawned an impressive cadre of musicians-cum-entrepreneurs who have parlayed their fame into lucrative entertainment empires. Curtis "50 Cent" Jackson, who nabbed the No. 2 spot on the list, presides over G-Unit, a diverse portfolio of businesses that includes apparel, ringtones, video games and even a line of fiction. All told, "Fiddy" as he is known to fans, made an estimated $32 million last year. "I'm creating a foundation that will be around for a long time, because fame can come and go or get lost in the lifestyle and the splurging," he told Forbes last year. "I never got into it for the music. I got into it for the business." At No. 3 is impresario Sean "Diddy" Combs, formerly known as "Puff Daddy," who lords over Bad Boy Worldwide Entertainment Group. That enterprise is responsible for TV series like MTV's Making the Band franchise, the Sean John clothing line, the bestselling Unforgivable cologne and a pair of restaurants called Justin's, named after one of his sons. The Bad Boy Records label, backed by Warner Music Group (nyse: WMG - news - people ), released albums last year by Danity Kane, Cassie and Yung Joc. Last year, Diddy himself released his first album in four years; Press Play debuted at the top of the U.S. pop and rap charts. All told, Combs made an estimated $28 million last year. (Representatives for Diddy, ever the showman, insist that figure is much higher.)Generally, the most successful "hip-hopreneurs" run their own labels, taking a cut from the artists they sign. Both Eminem ($18 million) and Dr. Dre ($20 million) boast Interscope-backed imprints; both helped produce and release 50 Cent's last two albums, which have sold over 20 million copies worldwide. Fifty owns his own G-Unit label which produces artists like Young Buck and Lloyd Banks, among others.Other lucrative businesses: producing tracks and beats for other artists. Listers like Timbaland ($21 million), Scott Storch ($17 million) and Pharrell Williams ($17 million) are among the most sought after--and pricey-- producers on the planet. Rappers like Snoop Dogg ($17 million) collect massive fees for cameos on other artists' tracks. Last year, in addition to releasing Tha Blue Carpet Treatment, his eighth studio album, Snoop Dogg ($17 million) made guest appearances on hit singles by Akon, Mariah Carey and the Pussycat Dolls.While endorsement deals with top-shelf brands used to be the exclusive domain of pop's biggest acts--Michael Jackson and Madonna, among them--hip-hop artists now routinely land such gigs. This year Chamillionaire ($11 million) inked a deal with Energizer; The Game ($11 million) peddles Skechers sneakers. And in an irrefutable sign of just how corporate hip-hop has become: Last October Anheuser Busch named Jay-Z "co-brand director" for Budweiser Select.Our estimates are based solely on 2006 income. In March, Jay-Z sold his Rocawear apparel label to Iconix (nasdaq: ICON - news - people ) for $204 million. Forbes estimates he pocketed about a quarter of that, after taxes and other payable commitments. And in May, Coca Cola (nyse: KO - news - people ) announced it would buy Glaceau, maker of VitaminWater, for $4.2 billion in cash. Once the deal is consummated, 50 Cent, who agreed to endorse the brand in 2004 in exchange for a small stake, should walk away with some $100 million. Best efforts were made to contact every member of the list for comment.Forbes and E! Entertainment teamed up for a one-hour special about the list, which will premiere on Saturday, Aug. 18, at 6 p.m. ET. The E! special features exclusive interviews with Big Boi, Lil Jon, T.I., Swizz Beats and Scott Storch. Check your local listings.
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  • most of these numbers sound way off. chamillionaire made $11 million and jay-z only made $34 mill?

    most of these guys have been in the biz for quite a while and i'm sure their investments alone are making tens of millions a year. which might make these numbers more sensible considering that money, if not cashed out, wouldn't be considered income.




  • DocMcCoyDocMcCoy "Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
    I'd have expected will.i.am to be in there as well. Worth noting that the three top earners seem to be making a big chunk of cheese off their non-music enterprises. It'd be interesting to see how the list would look if it was based on music-related income alone (records, publishing, concert tours, etc.) - very different, I'd imagine.

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    most of these numbers sound way off. chamillionaire made $11 million and jay-z only made $34 mill?

    I was going to comment on the Chamillionaire one, too.

    How, exactly, would he have done that?

    Is he getting $11 per album? Did Energizer give him a $10 M deal?

    It's absurd.



  • Is he getting $11 per album?

    He does have some releases on Koch...



  • Is he getting $11 per album?

    He does have some releases on Koch...


    actually, that "ridin' dirty" ringtone probably made him a bundle.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts


    Is he getting $11 per album?

    He does have some releases on Koch...


    actually, that "ridin' dirty" ringtone probably made him a bundle.

    Yep, he signed a ringtone deal early in the game where he landed himself something like 50% of the revenues. You can't sign a deal like that today. Anyway, it brought him close to 10 million just off of ringtones alone.

    And faux, once again you sound mad surrounding Cham's success.

  • And faux, once again you sound mad surrounding Cham's success.

    Quit hatin' the South!

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts


    Is he getting $11 per album?

    He does have some releases on Koch...


    actually, that "ridin' dirty" ringtone probably made him a bundle.

    Yep, he signed a ringtone deal early in the game where he landed himself something like 50% of the revenues. You can't sign a deal like that today. Anyway, it brought him close to 10 million just off of ringtones alone.

    And faux, once again you sound mad surrounding Cham's success.

    LOL, dude--he may be getting nicer money off ringtones than most rappers, but no way is he seeing $10M. You're just gullible if you believe that.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    Where is Forbes getting its numbers from? Public documents? News reports? Ouiji board?

    I'm just waiting to see how long it will take for a rapper to work this into their rhymes.

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    Where is Forbes getting its numbers from? Public documents? News reports? Ouiji board?

    I'm just waiting to see how long it will take for a rapper to work this into their rhymes.

    Forbes' lists are famously worthless--they rely in large part upon the representations of people listed there. I'm frankly surprised that they're exercising any degree of skepticism towards Puff's claims.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts


    Is he getting $11 per album?

    He does have some releases on Koch...


    actually, that "ridin' dirty" ringtone probably made him a bundle.

    Yep, he signed a ringtone deal early in the game where he landed himself something like 50% of the revenues. You can't sign a deal like that today. Anyway, it brought him close to 10 million just off of ringtones alone.

    And faux, once again you sound mad surrounding Cham's success.

    LOL, dude--he may be getting nicer money off ringtones than most rappers, but no way is he seeing $10M. You're just gullible if you believe that.

    Whatever you want to think, dude...

  • DJCireDJCire 729 Posts


    Is he getting $11 per album?

    He does have some releases on Koch...



  • MjukisMjukis 1,675 Posts
    Seems to me that someone like Pharrell ought to outearn people like Game and Chamillionaire by more. Even though the few people who bought his solo album did want their money back...

  • CosmophonicCosmophonic 1,172 Posts
    What??s this G-Unit "fiction"? That ridiculous porno?

    - J

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    Seems to me that someone like Pharrell ought to outearn people like Game and Chamillionaire by more. Even though the few people who bought his solo album did want their money back...

    Well, when you're buying Phantoms all day...

  • mylatencymylatency 10,475 Posts
    This list is fun

  • rootlesscosmorootlesscosmo 12,848 Posts
    Seems to me that someone like Pharrell ought to outearn people like Game and Chamillionaire by more. Even though the few people who bought his solo album did want their money back...

    THE GAME STAYS DIVERSIFYING HIS PORTFOLIO; DUDES MONEY WORKS FOR HIM; REAL ESTATE FOR DAYS; PHARRELL BLOWS BILLIONS ON BELTBUCKLES AND BAPES. NICE!

  • CahootsCahoots 378 Posts
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  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    Seems to me that someone like Pharrell ought to outearn people like Game and Chamillionaire by more. Even though the few people who bought his solo album did want their money back...

    THE GAME STAYS DIVERSIFYING HIS PORTFOLIO; DUDES MONEY WORKS FOR HIM; REAL ESTATE FOR DAYS; PHARRELL BLOWS BILLIONS ON BELTBUCKLES AND BAPES. NICE!

    ^^^^^SIX PAIRS OF HURRICANE GAMES IS HIS TWELVE STEP PROGRAM


  • Seems to me that someone like Pharrell ought to outearn people like Game and Chamillionaire by more. Even though the few people who bought his solo album did want their money back...

    THE GAME STAYS DIVERSIFYING HIS PORTFOLIO; DUDES MONEY WORKS FOR HIM; REAL ESTATE FOR DAYS; PHARRELL BLOWS BILLIONS ON BELTBUCKLES AND BAPES. NICE!

    ^^^^^SIX PAIRS OF HURRICANE GAMES IS HIS TWELVE STEP PROGRAM



    IT'S NOT JUST A SHOE. IT'S MY SHOE.



    Winning line, that one...

  • 33thirdcom33thirdcom 2,049 Posts
    i am with Faux on this one... These numbers are about as inflated as Soundscan numbers (used to be ha).

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    i am with Faux on this one... These numbers are about as inflated as Soundscan numbers (used to be ha).

    But Shied personally knows twenty million Texans who have downloaded the "Ridin' Dirty" ringtone!

  • JustAliceJustAlice 1,308 Posts


    Forbes' first-ever list of hip-hop Cash Kings.

    Jay-Z,

    50 Cent

    Diddy

    Eminem

    Chamillionaire

    The Game

    Generally, the most successful "hip-hopreneurs"[/b]




    Oh, So that's what they are called.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    i am with Faux on this one... These numbers are about as inflated as Soundscan numbers (used to be ha).

    But Shied personally knows twenty million Texans who have downloaded the "Ridin' Dirty" ringtone!

    If true, that would make it 19,999,999 more than any people that you know personally, right?

  • rootlesscosmorootlesscosmo 12,848 Posts
    for real though I was surprised to see Joc and the Game on there. they have each had a hot album, but so have lots of folls I feel like.

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    for real though I was surprised to see Joc and the Game on there. they have each had a hot album, but so have lots of folls I feel like.

    So you thought that Yung Joc album was "hot," huh?

    I'm not sure if even the boy deej would go that far.

  • deejdeej 5,125 Posts

  • TheMackTheMack 3,414 Posts
    50 got 400 mill from vitamin water

  • rootlesscosmorootlesscosmo 12,848 Posts
    for real though I was surprised to see Joc and the Game on there. they have each had a hot album, but so have lots of folls I feel like.

    So you thought that Yung Joc album was "hot," huh?

    I'm not sure if even the boy deej would go that far.

    no I meant they had big-selling albums. I didn't think either album was particularly hot. though I admit I never really listened to the Young Joc one.

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    50 got 400 mill from vitamin water

    No, he didn't. Please stop repeating ridiculous internet rumors.
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