i was never that keen on the record in the first place. the poor pressing didn't help the listening experience either. i think that is one of the most overrated golden era hip hop lps.....
I'm still on page 1 but GTFOOH about this and even Octogon. You wanna talk about not aging well, throw up any record with thost stiff ass swing drums from the late 80's early 90s. Those Fresh Prince of Bel Aire type beats did not age well one bit.
i think low bitrate "sp1200", bitcrush kinda sound, has a chance to be the next big "autotune" trend. its allready getting popular in house music etc. considering its so easy to do on a computer now.
thats said, i dont know if we'll laugh at classic sp1200 beats in the future or not..
i say that all the autotune stuff will be looked at as NAGL in a while (even the "good" ones we may like today).
I would argue that any music in any genre that relies on some trendy production technique as the meat of its appeal will not age well. Its funny how a production technique pretty much pioneered by a Cher song has pretty much overtaken an entire genre. This shit will not age well at all, because for the most part the songs are doo doo and only have this annoying vocal timbre that some folks think is killer and makes it stand out right now.
I am a huge Bjork fan, but I cant listen to "Debut" anymore because the technology and sound of that era sounds crap to me; at the time it was very modern, but now it sounds awful.
Things that are timeless like songwriting and performance have taken a back seat, that is what will make current music look like doo doo in the future...however, things might get even worse and make this shit seem classic who knows?
Sometimes a quirky production or production shortcoming is charming (See Stooges "Raw Power") but more often then not it isnt.
Sometimes a quirky production or production shortcoming is charming (See Stooges "Raw Power") but more often then not it isnt.
See Stooges' Raw Power.
I don't care what anybody say, Bowie fucked up the mix on that album. The '90s remix made that joker listenable. If I want lo-fi, I'll listen to a Gary "U.S." Bonds record from 1961.
Here's the top 25 songs (according to Billboard) from 40 years ago:
1. Aquarius, Fifth Dimension 2. Sugar, Sugar, Archies 3. I Can't Get Next To You, Temptations 4. Honky Tonk Women, Rolling Stones 5. Build Me Up Buttercup, Foundations 6. Dizzy, Tommy Roe 7. Hot Fun In The Summertime, Sly and The Family Stone 8. I'll Never Fall In Love Again, Tom Jones 9. Everyday People, Sly and The Family Stone 10. Get Together, Youngbloods 11. One, Three Dog Night 12. Crystal Blue Persuasion, Tommy James and The Shondells 13. Hair, Cowsills 14. Too Busy Thinking About My Baby, Marvin Gaye 15. Love Theme From Romeo And Juliet, Henry Mancini and His Orch. 16. Crimson And Clover, Tommy James and The Shondells 17. Grazin' In The Grass, Friends Of Distinction 18. Suspicious Minds, Elvis Presley 19. Proud Mary, Creedence Clearwater Revival 20. What Does It Take (To Win Your Love), Jr. Walker and The All Stars 21. It's Your Thing, Isley Brothers 22. Sweet Caroline, Neil Diamond 23. Jean, Oliver 24. Bad Moon Rising, Creedence Clearwater Revival 25. Get Back, The Beatles
How many of these still hold up (IMO, more than I might have expected)
Here's the top 25 songs (according to Billboard) from 40 years ago:
1. Aquarius, Fifth Dimension 2. Sugar, Sugar, Archies 3. I Can't Get Next To You, Temptations 4. Honky Tonk Women, Rolling Stones 5. Build Me Up Buttercup, Foundations 6. Dizzy, Tommy Roe 7. Hot Fun In The Summertime, Sly and The Family Stone 8. I'll Never Fall In Love Again, Tom Jones 9. Everyday People, Sly and The Family Stone 10. Get Together, Youngbloods 11. One, Three Dog Night 12. Crystal Blue Persuasion, Tommy James and The Shondells 13. Hair, Cowsills 14. Too Busy Thinking About My Baby, Marvin Gaye 15. Love Theme From Romeo And Juliet, Henry Mancini and His Orch. 16. Crimson And Clover, Tommy James and The Shondells 17. Grazin' In The Grass, Friends Of Distinction 18. Suspicious Minds, Elvis Presley 19. Proud Mary, Creedence Clearwater Revival 20. What Does It Take (To Win Your Love), Jr. Walker and The All Stars 21. It's Your Thing, Isley Brothers 22. Sweet Caroline, Neil Diamond 23. Jean, Oliver 24. Bad Moon Rising, Creedence Clearwater Revival 25. Get Back, The Beatles
How many of these still hold up (IMO, more than I might have expected)
there are three songs on this list that I do NOT dig (Oliver, Mancini, Tom Jones)
and then there's one more song that i'm on the fence about ("Aquarius/Let The Sunshine In" doesn't start getting good until the second half of the medley)
after you get those duds out the way, that leaves 21 boss oldies i wouldnt mind hearing anytime
while i like all of the remaining songs, i'd say "get back," "honky tonk women" and the creedence tracks are the LEAST dated, because they're the most straightahead - no electric sitars, no peace-and-love lyrics, etc.
Here's the top 25 songs (according to Billboard) from 40 years ago:
1. Aquarius, Fifth Dimension 2. Sugar, Sugar, Archies 3. I Can't Get Next To You, Temptations 4. Honky Tonk Women, Rolling Stones 5. Build Me Up Buttercup, Foundations 6. Dizzy, Tommy Roe 7. Hot Fun In The Summertime, Sly and The Family Stone 8. I'll Never Fall In Love Again, Tom Jones 9. Everyday People, Sly and The Family Stone 10. Get Together, Youngbloods 11. One, Three Dog Night 12. Crystal Blue Persuasion, Tommy James and The Shondells 13. Hair, Cowsills 14. Too Busy Thinking About My Baby, Marvin Gaye 15. Love Theme From Romeo And Juliet, Henry Mancini and His Orch. 16. Crimson And Clover, Tommy James and The Shondells 17. Grazin' In The Grass, Friends Of Distinction 18. Suspicious Minds, Elvis Presley 19. Proud Mary, Creedence Clearwater Revival 20. What Does It Take (To Win Your Love), Jr. Walker and The All Stars 21. It's Your Thing, Isley Brothers 22. Sweet Caroline, Neil Diamond 23. Jean, Oliver 24. Bad Moon Rising, Creedence Clearwater Revival 25. Get Back, The Beatles
How many of these still hold up (IMO, more than I might have expected)
there are three songs on this list that I do NOT dig (Oliver, Mancini, Tom Jones)
Dude...when I first looked at this list those are exactly the same three I picked.
Here's the top 25 songs (according to Billboard) from 40 years ago:
1. Aquarius, Fifth Dimension 2. Sugar, Sugar, Archies 3. I Can't Get Next To You, Temptations 4. Honky Tonk Women, Rolling Stones 5. Build Me Up Buttercup, Foundations 6. Dizzy, Tommy Roe 7. Hot Fun In The Summertime, Sly and The Family Stone 8. I'll Never Fall In Love Again, Tom Jones 9. Everyday People, Sly and The Family Stone 10. Get Together, Youngbloods 11. One, Three Dog Night 12. Crystal Blue Persuasion, Tommy James and The Shondells 13. Hair, Cowsills 14. Too Busy Thinking About My Baby, Marvin Gaye 15. Love Theme From Romeo And Juliet, Henry Mancini and His Orch. 16. Crimson And Clover, Tommy James and The Shondells 17. Grazin' In The Grass, Friends Of Distinction 18. Suspicious Minds, Elvis Presley 19. Proud Mary, Creedence Clearwater Revival 20. What Does It Take (To Win Your Love), Jr. Walker and The All Stars 21. It's Your Thing, Isley Brothers 22. Sweet Caroline, Neil Diamond 23. Jean, Oliver 24. Bad Moon Rising, Creedence Clearwater Revival 25. Get Back, The Beatles
How many of these still hold up (IMO, more than I might have expected)
Here's the top 25 songs (according to Billboard) from 40 years ago:
1. Aquarius, Fifth Dimension 2. Sugar, Sugar, Archies 3. I Can't Get Next To You, Temptations 4. Honky Tonk Women, Rolling Stones 5. Build Me Up Buttercup, Foundations 6. Dizzy, Tommy Roe 7. Hot Fun In The Summertime, Sly and The Family Stone 8. I'll Never Fall In Love Again, Tom Jones 9. Everyday People, Sly and The Family Stone 10. Get Together, Youngbloods 11. One, Three Dog Night 12. Crystal Blue Persuasion, Tommy James and The Shondells 13. Hair, Cowsills 14. Too Busy Thinking About My Baby, Marvin Gaye 15. Love Theme From Romeo And Juliet, Henry Mancini and His Orch. 16. Crimson And Clover, Tommy James and The Shondells 17. Grazin' In The Grass, Friends Of Distinction 18. Suspicious Minds, Elvis Presley 19. Proud Mary, Creedence Clearwater Revival 20. What Does It Take (To Win Your Love), Jr. Walker and The All Stars 21. It's Your Thing, Isley Brothers 22. Sweet Caroline, Neil Diamond 23. Jean, Oliver 24. Bad Moon Rising, Creedence Clearwater Revival 25. Get Back, The Beatles
How many of these still hold up (IMO, more than I might have expected)
I think Dizzy still sounds great, have you listened to the drums recently?
Here's the top 25 songs (according to Billboard) from 40 years ago:
1. Aquarius, Fifth Dimension 2. Sugar, Sugar, Archies 3. I Can't Get Next To You, Temptations 4. Honky Tonk Women, Rolling Stones 5. Build Me Up Buttercup, Foundations 6. Dizzy, Tommy Roe 7. Hot Fun In The Summertime, Sly and The Family Stone 8. I'll Never Fall In Love Again, Tom Jones 9. Everyday People, Sly and The Family Stone 10. Get Together, Youngbloods 11. One, Three Dog Night 12. Crystal Blue Persuasion, Tommy James and The Shondells 13. Hair, Cowsills 14. Too Busy Thinking About My Baby, Marvin Gaye 15. Love Theme From Romeo And Juliet, Henry Mancini and His Orch. 16. Crimson And Clover, Tommy James and The Shondells 17. Grazin' In The Grass, Friends Of Distinction 18. Suspicious Minds, Elvis Presley 19. Proud Mary, Creedence Clearwater Revival 20. What Does It Take (To Win Your Love), Jr. Walker and The All Stars 21. It's Your Thing, Isley Brothers 22. Sweet Caroline, Neil Diamond 23. Jean, Oliver 24. Bad Moon Rising, Creedence Clearwater Revival 25. Get Back, The Beatles
How many of these still hold up (IMO, more than I might have expected)
there are three songs on this list that I do NOT dig (Oliver, Mancini, Tom Jones)
and then there's one more song that i'm on the fence about ("Aquarius/Let The Sunshine In" doesn't start getting good until the second half of the medley)
after you get those duds out the way, that leaves 21 boss oldies i wouldnt mind hearing anytime
while i like all of the remaining songs, i'd say "get back," "honky tonk women" and the creedence tracks are the LEAST dated, because they're the most straightahead - no electric sitars, no peace-and-love lyrics, etc.
It's surprising just how good, no great, Sugar Sugar is. I never liked One or Sweet Caroline, or Three Dog Night or Neil Diamond.
If not holding up well means the song reflects the time it was recorded, then Crystal Blue Persuasion and Get Together and a host of others don't hold up well.
That's funny, I haven't heard that song in forever, but I do remember it. For some reason I didn't recall that was a Freestyle Fellowship song; whenever I think of them I automatically click to their second incarnation.
I dunno if I would say it didn't age well. Still sounds good to me but I guess you could say it dates itself with the early-90s hip-hop/jazz mix; you wouldn't catch that on mainstream radio now.
That's funny, I haven't heard that song in forever, but I do remember it. For some reason I didn't recall that was a Freestyle Fellowship song; whenever I think of them I automatically click to their second incarnation.
I dunno if I would say it didn't age well. Still sounds good to me but I guess you could say it dates itself with the early-90s hip-hop/jazz mix; you wouldn't catch that on mainstream radio now.
Man, I listen to this song at least once a week and it's still great to my ears!
That's funny, I haven't heard that song in forever, but I do remember it. For some reason I didn't recall that was a Freestyle Fellowship song; whenever I think of them I automatically click to their second incarnation.
I dunno if I would say it didn't age well. Still sounds good to me but I guess you could say it dates itself with the early-90s hip-hop/jazz mix; you wouldn't catch that on mainstream radio now.
Man, I listen to this song at least once a week and it's still great to my ears!
I just checked out some of the other songs on the album. Ugh, what a letdown.
That's funny, I haven't heard that song in forever, but I do remember it. For some reason I didn't recall that was a Freestyle Fellowship song; whenever I think of them I automatically click to their second incarnation.
I dunno if I would say it didn't age well. Still sounds good to me but I guess you could say it dates itself with the early-90s hip-hop/jazz mix; you wouldn't catch that on mainstream radio now.
Man, I listen to this song at least once a week and it's still great to my ears!
I just checked out some of the other songs on the album. Ugh, what a letdown.
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I'm still on page 1 but GTFOOH about this and even Octogon. You wanna talk about not aging well, throw up any record with thost stiff ass swing drums from the late 80's early 90s. Those Fresh Prince of Bel Aire type beats did not age well one bit.
FEEL MEH
This is worth reading the whole thread for.
thats said, i dont know if we'll laugh at classic sp1200 beats in the future or not..
I would argue that any music in any genre that relies on some trendy production technique as the meat of its appeal will not age well. Its funny how a production technique pretty much pioneered by a Cher song has pretty much overtaken an entire genre. This shit will not age well at all, because for the most part the songs are doo doo and only have this annoying vocal timbre that some folks think is killer and makes it stand out right now.
I am a huge Bjork fan, but I cant listen to "Debut" anymore because the technology and sound of that era sounds crap to me; at the time it was very modern, but now it sounds awful.
Things that are timeless like songwriting and performance have taken a back seat, that is what will make current music look like doo doo in the future...however, things might get even worse and make this shit seem classic who knows?
Sometimes a quirky production or production shortcoming is charming (See Stooges "Raw Power") but more often then not it isnt.
See Stooges' Raw Power.
I don't care what anybody say, Bowie fucked up the mix on that album. The '90s remix made that joker listenable. If I want lo-fi, I'll listen to a Gary "U.S." Bonds record from 1961.
No. I like Dinosaur Jr. again.
I agree on the Autotune shit, it's a fad like slap bracelets.
Up next - hip hop = hair bands?
1. Aquarius, Fifth Dimension
2. Sugar, Sugar, Archies
3. I Can't Get Next To You, Temptations
4. Honky Tonk Women, Rolling Stones
5. Build Me Up Buttercup, Foundations
6. Dizzy, Tommy Roe
7. Hot Fun In The Summertime, Sly and The Family Stone
8. I'll Never Fall In Love Again, Tom Jones
9. Everyday People, Sly and The Family Stone
10. Get Together, Youngbloods
11. One, Three Dog Night
12. Crystal Blue Persuasion, Tommy James and The Shondells
13. Hair, Cowsills
14. Too Busy Thinking About My Baby, Marvin Gaye
15. Love Theme From Romeo And Juliet, Henry Mancini and His Orch.
16. Crimson And Clover, Tommy James and The Shondells
17. Grazin' In The Grass, Friends Of Distinction
18. Suspicious Minds, Elvis Presley
19. Proud Mary, Creedence Clearwater Revival
20. What Does It Take (To Win Your Love), Jr. Walker and The All Stars
21. It's Your Thing, Isley Brothers
22. Sweet Caroline, Neil Diamond
23. Jean, Oliver
24. Bad Moon Rising, Creedence Clearwater Revival
25. Get Back, The Beatles
How many of these still hold up (IMO, more than I might have expected)
I disagree.
there are three songs on this list that I do NOT dig (Oliver, Mancini, Tom Jones)
and then there's one more song that i'm on the fence about ("Aquarius/Let The Sunshine In" doesn't start getting good until the second half of the medley)
after you get those duds out the way, that leaves 21 boss oldies i wouldnt mind hearing anytime
while i like all of the remaining songs, i'd say "get back," "honky tonk women" and the creedence tracks are the LEAST dated, because they're the most straightahead - no electric sitars, no peace-and-love lyrics, etc.
Dude...when I first looked at this list those are exactly the same three I picked.
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I think Dizzy still sounds great, have you listened to the drums recently?
It's surprising just how good, no great, Sugar Sugar is.
I never liked One or Sweet Caroline, or Three Dog Night or Neil Diamond.
If not holding up well means the song reflects the time it was recorded, then Crystal Blue Persuasion and Get Together and a host of others don't hold up well.
WHY?
That's funny, I haven't heard that song in forever, but I do remember it. For some reason I didn't recall that was a Freestyle Fellowship song; whenever I think of them I automatically click to their second incarnation.
I dunno if I would say it didn't age well. Still sounds good to me but I guess you could say it dates itself with the early-90s hip-hop/jazz mix; you wouldn't catch that on mainstream radio now.
Man, I listen to this song at least once a week and it's still great to my ears!
I just checked out some of the other songs on the album. Ugh, what a letdown.
Isnt that just cus it uses Marley Marl's "Poison" drums? Ir always sounded 2 me like they jacked the G Rap track for that one.
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