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Stop Snitchin (NRR)

edulusedulus 421 Posts
edited April 2007 in Strut Central
not really new news....but really? i mean really?http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=2704196n
PLATINUM SELLING RAPPER TELLS '60 MINUTES': WOULDN'T HELP POLICE CATCH EVEN A SERIAL KILLER BECAUSE IT WOULD HURT HIS BUSINESS AND VIOLATE HIS 'CODE OF ETHICS'Thu Apr 19 2007 12:47:1 ETRap star Cam'ron says there's no situation -- including a serial killer living next door -- that would cause him to help police in any way, because to do so would hurt his music sales and violate his "code of ethics." Cam'ron, whose real name is Cameron Giles, talks to Anderson Cooper for a report on how the hip-hop culture's message to shun the police has undermined efforts to solve murders across the country. Cooper's report will be broadcast on 60 MINUTES Sunday, April 22 (7:00-8:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network."If I knew the serial killer was living next door to me?" Giles responds to a hypothetical question posed by Cooper. "I wouldn't call and tell anybody on him -- but I'd probably move," says Giles. "But I'm not going to call and be like, ??The serial killer's in 4E.' " ( For an excerpt of Giles' interview, click hereGiles' "code of ethics" also extends to crimes committed against him. After being shot and wounded by gunmen, Giles refused to cooperate with police. Why? "Because...it would definitely hurt my business, and the way I was raised, I just don't do that," says Giles. Pressed by Cooper, who says had he been the victim, he would want his attacker to be caught, Giles explains further: "But then again, you're not going to be on the stage tonight in the middle of, say, Raleigh-Durham, North Carolina, with people with gold and platinum teeth and dreadlocks jumping up and down singing your songs, either," says Giles. "We're in two different lines of business.""So for you, it's really about business?" Cooper asks."It's about business," Giles says, "but it's still also a code of ethics."Rappers appear to be concerned about damaging what's known as their "street credibility," says Geoffrey Canada, an anti-violence advocate and educator from New York City's Harlem neighborhood. "It's one of those things that sells music and no one really quite understands why," says Canada. Their fans look up to artists if they come from the "meanest streets of the urban ghetto," he tells Cooper. For that reason, Canada says, they do not cooperate with the police.Canada says in the poor New York City neighborhood he grew up in, only the criminals didn't talk to the police, but within today's hip-hop culture, that's changed. "It is now a cultural norm that is being preached in poor communities....It's like you can't be a black person if you have a set of values that say ??I will not watch a crime happen in my community without getting involved to stop it,'" Canada tells Cooper.Young people from some of New York's toughest neighborhoods echo Canada's assessment, calling the message not to help police "the rules" and helping the police "a crime" in their neighborhoods. These "rules" are contributing to a much lower percentage of arrests in homicide cases -- a statistic known as the "clearance rate" -- in largely poor, minority neighborhoods throughout the country, according to Prof. David Kennedy of the John Jay College of Criminal Justice. "I work in communities where the clearance rate for homicides has gone into the single digits," says Kennedy. The national rate for homicide clearance is 60 percent. "In these neighborhoods, we are on the verge of -- or maybe we have already lost -- the rule of law," he tells Cooper.Says Canada, "It's like we're saying to the criminals, ??You can have our community....Do anything you want and we will either deal with it ourselves or we'll simply ignore it.' "

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  • BrianBrian 7,618 Posts
    haha, cam'ron says some really dumb shit sometimes
  • ayresayres 1,452 Posts
    I want an update on his mission to catch child molesters.
  • BrianBrian 7,618 Posts
    I want an update on his mission to catch child molesters.
    yeah
    he could extend it to catching serial killers who lived next door to him too
  • Imperial_MaoImperial_Mao 1,119 Posts
    What an ass...
  • BsidesBsides 4,244 Posts
    not looking too good for hip hop these days.
  • G_BalliandoG_Balliando 3,916 Posts
    Fuckin' Cam'ron. The guy never ceaases to amaze me. Or make me laugh. I don't believe him though. I think he would do something about it if he had a serial killer living next to him and he knew about it. I don't think he'd just up and move, that would also damage his street cred. What, Cam's afraid of a little serial killer? Just send 40cal with the 40cal to handle it. Or, you know, lure him in via the internet as if he were a prospective victim of the killer, and then handle him. All on film, of course, as a sequel to the child molestor catcher plot.
  • Big_StacksBig_Stacks "I don't worry about hittin' power, cause I don't give 'em nuttin' to hit." 4,670 Posts
    not really new news....but really? i mean really?

    http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=2704196n

    PLATINUM SELLING RAPPER TELLS '60 MINUTES': WOULDN'T HELP POLICE CATCH EVEN A SERIAL KILLER BECAUSE IT WOULD HURT HIS BUSINESS AND VIOLATE HIS 'CODE OF ETHICS'
    Thu Apr 19 2007 12:47:1 ET

    Rap star Cam'ron says there's no situation -- including a serial killer living next door -- that would cause him to help police in any way, because to do so would hurt his music sales and violate his "code of ethics." Cam'ron, whose real name is Cameron Giles, talks to Anderson Cooper for a report on how the hip-hop culture's message to shun the police has undermined efforts to solve murders across the country. Cooper's report will be broadcast on 60 MINUTES Sunday, April 22 (7:00-8:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

    "If I knew the serial killer was living next door to me?" Giles responds to a hypothetical question posed by Cooper. "I wouldn't call and tell anybody on him -- but I'd probably move," says Giles. "But I'm not going to call and be like, ??The serial killer's in 4E.' " ( For an excerpt of Giles' interview, click here

    Giles' "code of ethics" also extends to crimes committed against him. After being shot and wounded by gunmen, Giles refused to cooperate with police. Why? "Because...it would definitely hurt my business, and the way I was raised, I just don't do that," says Giles. Pressed by Cooper, who says had he been the victim, he would want his attacker to be caught, Giles explains further: "But then again, you're not going to be on the stage tonight in the middle of, say, Raleigh-Durham, North Carolina, with people with gold and platinum teeth and dreadlocks jumping up and down singing your songs, either," says Giles. "We're in two different lines of business."

    "So for you, it's really about business?" Cooper asks.

    "It's about business," Giles says, "but it's still also a code of ethics."

    Rappers appear to be concerned about damaging what's known as their "street credibility," says Geoffrey Canada, an anti-violence advocate and educator from New York City's Harlem neighborhood. "It's one of those things that sells music and no one really quite understands why," says Canada. Their fans look up to artists if they come from the "meanest streets of the urban ghetto," he tells Cooper. For that reason, Canada says, they do not cooperate with the police.

    Canada says in the poor New York City neighborhood he grew up in, only the criminals didn't talk to the police, but within today's hip-hop culture, that's changed. "It is now a cultural norm that is being preached in poor communities....It's like you can't be a black person if you have a set of values that say ??I will not watch a crime happen in my community without getting involved to stop it,'" Canada tells Cooper.

    Young people from some of New York's toughest neighborhoods echo Canada's assessment, calling the message not to help police "the rules" and helping the police "a crime" in their neighborhoods. These "rules" are contributing to a much lower percentage of arrests in homicide cases -- a statistic known as the "clearance rate" -- in largely poor, minority neighborhoods throughout the country, according to Prof. David Kennedy of the John Jay College of Criminal Justice. "I work in communities where the clearance rate for homicides has gone into the single digits," says Kennedy. The national rate for homicide clearance is 60 percent. "In these neighborhoods, we are on the verge of -- or maybe we have already lost -- the rule of law," he tells Cooper.

    Says Canada, "It's like we're saying to the criminals, ??You can have our community....Do anything you want and we will either deal with it ourselves or we'll simply ignore it.' "

    Downright, fucking ig'nant!!! No wonder (some) White folks think we're crazy!!! Black folks didn't use to be like this and would scream on folks wilin' our communities. We're on some ole' other shit these days.

    Peace,

    Big Stacks from Kakalak
  • izm707izm707 1,107 Posts
    coming from the hurdle jumper he is, it don't moves me...he's not a person of influence so hopefully only a few would take what he said for granted. But let his Lambo get stolen and dude is at the next corner precinct.
  • BrianBrian 7,618 Posts
    coming from the hurdle jumper he is, it don't moves me...he's not a person of influence so hopefully only a few would take what he said for granted. But let his Lambo get stolen and dude is at the next corner precinct.
    his lambo didnt get stolen and im pretty sure all he did was go to the hospital. cops are going to get called if someone shows up at the hospital all shot the fuck up
  • hemolhemol 2,578 Posts

    The national rate for homicide clearance is 60 percent. "In these neighborhoods, we are on the verge of -- or maybe we have already lost -- the rule of law," he tells Cooper.[/b]

    Downright, fucking ig'nant!!! No wonder (some) White folks think we're crazy!!! Black folks didn't use to be like this and would scream on folks wilin' our communities. We're on some ole' other shit these days.

    Peace,

    Big Stacks from Kakalak

    This is twisted on so many levels. Mr. Canada probably doesn't live in any of the nieghborohhods that he's preaching on, which obvioiusly gives him a rather skewed perspective.
  • erewhonerewhon 1,123 Posts


    http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/8288
  • Birdman9Birdman9 5,417 Posts
    haha, cam'ron says some really dumb shit sometimes

    That's showbiz!

    People really believe the stupid things people say to sell rekkids! A sucker born every minute and two to take him.
  • white_teawhite_tea 3,262 Posts

    The national rate for homicide clearance is 60 percent. "In these neighborhoods, we are on the verge of -- or maybe we have already lost -- the rule of law," he tells Cooper.[/b]

    Downright, fucking ig'nant!!! No wonder (some) White folks think we're crazy!!! Black folks didn't use to be like this and would scream on folks wilin' our communities. We're on some ole' other shit these days.

    Peace,

    Big Stacks from Kakalak


    This is twisted on so many levels. Mr. Canada probably doesn't live in any of the nieghborohhods that he's preaching on, which obvioiusly gives him a rather skewed perspective.
    That's what you're taking away from that? That dude said he grew up in poor neighborhoods. Even if he didn't, it doesn't take a genius to see that police aren't getting a lot of help.

    There's a pretty ghetto suburb near Chicago (Harvey) that was so bad, the police seemed up on some Stop Snitchin' shit. The state had to take over their homicide investigations. After not clearing any cases for an entire year, the state came in and cleared like three or four murders in a couple weeks, and there's more to come on that.

    I wonder if Cam'Ron will watch this and realize how idiotic it sounds. I wonder if that talk about Busta Bus' nonhelp in nabbing the killer of his bodyguard.
  • Birdman9Birdman9 5,417 Posts

    Second verse, same as the first

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0419072giles1.html

    Rapper's Change Of Face
    Beaten Cam'ron once had no problems cooperating with the fuzz
    APRIL 19--So the rapper Cam'ron is appearing on "60 Minutes" this Sunday to explain why he would never help the police, even if they were investigating a serial killer who lived next door to him. The performer (real name: Cameron Giles) believes that his CD sales and popularity would sag if fans saw him aiding law enforcement. But Giles, 31, hasn't always been so down on the fuzz. In fact, New York Police Department records indicate that he cooperated with cops after he was assaulted at a Harlem playground. According to an NYPD report, Giles--who is listed as "compl," or complainant--got into a "verbal dispute" with about 15 black males "while at basketball game" in August 1999. After the perps knocked him to the ground, Giles was kicked in the head and groin. Giles was debriefed by police at Bellevue Hospital, where he was treated and released. The incident report (and an information sheet including a mug shot of Giles) was included in a 500-page rap world dossier compiled by NYPD officials. The report--excerpts of which you'll find here--includes mug shots, rap sheets, and incident reports on many of hip-hop's biggest stars, as well as members of their entourages
  • Mr. CasualMr. Casual 953 Posts

    Second verse, same as the first

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0419072giles1.html

    Rapper's Change Of Face
    Beaten Cam'ron once had no problems cooperating with the fuzz
    APRIL 19--So the rapper Cam'ron is appearing on "60 Minutes" this Sunday to explain why he would never help the police, even if they were investigating a serial killer who lived next door to him. The performer (real name: Cameron Giles) believes that his CD sales and popularity would sag if fans saw him aiding law enforcement. But Giles, 31, hasn't always been so down on the fuzz. In fact, New York Police Department records indicate that he cooperated with cops after he was assaulted at a Harlem playground. According to an NYPD report, Giles--who is listed as "compl," or complainant--got into a "verbal dispute" with about 15 black males "while at basketball game" in August 1999. After the perps knocked him to the ground, Giles was kicked in the head and groin. Giles was debriefed by police at Bellevue Hospital, where he was treated and released. The incident report (and an information sheet including a mug shot of Giles) was included in a 500-page rap world dossier compiled by NYPD officials. The report--excerpts of which you'll find here--includes mug shots, rap sheets, and incident reports on many of hip-hop's biggest stars, as well as members of their entourages
  • street_muzikstreet_muzik 3,919 Posts

    Second verse, same as the first

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0419072giles1.html

    Rapper's Change Of Face
    Beaten Cam'ron once had no problems cooperating with the fuzz
    APRIL 19--So the rapper Cam'ron is appearing on "60 Minutes" this Sunday to explain why he would never help the police, even if they were investigating a serial killer who lived next door to him. The performer (real name: Cameron Giles) believes that his CD sales and popularity would sag if fans saw him aiding law enforcement. But Giles, 31, hasn't always been so down on the fuzz. In fact, New York Police Department records indicate that he cooperated with cops after he was assaulted at a Harlem playground. According to an NYPD report, Giles--who is listed as "compl," or complainant--got into a "verbal dispute" with about 15 black males "while at basketball game" in August 1999. After the perps knocked him to the ground, Giles was kicked in the head and groin. Giles was debriefed by police at Bellevue Hospital, where he was treated and released. The incident report (and an information sheet including a mug shot of Giles) was included in a 500-page rap world dossier compiled by NYPD officials. The report--excerpts of which you'll find here--includes mug shots, rap sheets, and incident reports on many of hip-hop's biggest stars, as well as members of their entourages

    Was that the attack at Rucker that little ceaser narrates on that vid?
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