Jive To Stop Pressing Vinyl???
SonicReducer
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I heard from a record pool cat that his Jive rep told him they're not going to press vinyl anymore. Anybody else heard this?SONIC
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If you are still needing vinyl get ready to jump to Microwave or all white labels.
labels been saying this since 1992. peace, stein. . .
True but they have actually already scaled back their vinyl production considerably in the last two years. Add to that all of the radio DJs are pretty much all on or making the move to Microwave and similar systems and they have no reason to keep vinyl around. I am only talking about the Majors, indies may and probably will hold onto vinyl production.
how else will they make money?
Shows.
LABELS?
how do indie labels make money from shows? peace, stein. . .
Not that thats unusual these days, Def Jam has been guilty too... still, I hate to hear this. No UGK wax? Too $hort??? The Pack?
Sorry i was referring to artists... What is the point of being on a label thesse days as an indie? I mean mom and pops are closing left and right, kids really don't buy CDs like they used to (Major label or otherwise), and most indies aren't in best buy/ target. With only a limited number of outlets and that nnumber shrkinging, what purpoe does the indie label/distributor serve? Outside of a FatBeats or a Carolines who can get you in the major outlets if you have the dough in your budget you are better served doing it yourself. Add to that the fact that you can self ditribute online (iTunes, eMusic etc.) for downloading, I don't know what purpose they are serving besides being a middleman for serving product. And with CDs/Vinyl on the downward swing to the younger target audience, explain to me how it helps other than putting up the money? The thing is the only place that vinyl is still selling well is overseas but even that is decreasing in regards to new product. I have talked to stores overseas that have quit buying new vinyl and switched strictly to collectible/rare stuff.
Just sayin... They aren't going to make money off of CDs/vinyl pretty soon so whats left? Licensing? Are the indies good at getting music licensed/cleared? (serious question). And if there is an advantage to being an indie or on an indie in teh future rather than doing it yourself please to knowledge me.
PS. this is a good topic.
wouldn't surprise me at all. At least over here in Europe, things are looking a bit better. There are still alot of pressing plants and the volume they press still increases. But this increase is not related to "rap music". It's clear that major labels in the US loose money by pressing rap music on vinyl. I mean, if promo agencies in Europe get a 1000 promos or whatever of the newest Ying Yang Twins release, it doesn't make sense, because people who spin stuff like that are already on Microwave. However, if the newest UD or stuff from Stones Throw comes in numbers like 10 copies for one country, it is clear that vinyl dj's don't get their stuff anymore (at least promowise). But I am sure that in certain markets, vinyl will still be around. Given the overall sales decrease in major label rap music, it is no wonder that there are no vinyl promos no more. There is a system called media control, which counts sales for Germany for all the big retail stores (no indie shops), kind of an equivalent to soundscan. Nas "HipHop is dead" sold around...500 copies.
btw...I typed [insert name of company here], but it changed to Microwave when I hit the continue button...
yo dr*% if fat beats goes under we will get a deal with another label. it never ends. peace, stein. . .