the kinks

alieNDNalieNDN 2,181 Posts
edited February 2007 in Strut Central
wtf?!i cant believe i slept on these guys, i mean i remember when i was a kid my dad would always play u really got me going and come dancing (which is a good tune, dont get me wrong)but i left it at that...but recently ive listened to Arthur and Village Green Preservation Society...and damn, its dope, why do bands today do the garage thing if it was already acheived years ago? this stuff sounds like it could be on the radio today. actually its odd that i didnt check them out earlier, cause one of my favorite songs today, thanks to a recommendation here is "waterloo sunset". any kinks fans? fav tunes? also i didnt realize how many albums they had, any other recommendations?

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  • cpeetzcpeetz 2,112 Posts
    The Kinks are one of my favorite rock bands.
    I'd recommend:
    The Kinks Kontroversy
    Face To Face
    Something Else By the Kinks
    Village Green
    Arthur
    Lola vs. The Powerman
    Percy
    and Muswell Hillbillies
    after that Ray Davies "theme" albums start to get
    really tiresome IMO.

  • love em love em love em

    my jams are:
    til the end of the day
    sunday afternoon
    wicked annabella

  • The Kinks are one of my favorite rock bands.
    I'd recommend:
    The Kinks Kontroversy
    Face To Face
    Something Else By the Kinks
    Village Green
    Arthur
    Lola vs. The Powerman
    Percy
    and Muswell Hillbillies
    after that Ray Davies "theme" albums start to get
    really tiresome IMO.


    I completely agree about the "theme" albums (also see; the who). But in their prime I dont think any rock band can fuck with the catalog. Some of my all-time favorite songs by far!


    Waterloo sunset =

  • cpeetzcpeetz 2,112 Posts
    Also I recommend just picking up the CD's (the newer import versions have lot's
    of extras, non-album tracks, B-sides etc.). I pick up the Lp's when I see them for cheap
    but the CD's are the most bang for your buck.

    Fav songs:
    Autumn Almanac
    When I See That Girl of Mine
    Gotta Get the First Plane Home
    Victoria
    Driving
    Apeman
    and so on and so on and so on....
    Shit I don't know if they recorded a bad song until Preservation Act I.
    Gotdamn I love the Kinks!



    If don't their was ever a better song writer than Ray Davies!

  • cpeetzcpeetz 2,112 Posts
    why do bands today do the garage thing if it was already acheived years ago?


    Everythings been done, so just do it your way and you'll be alright.

  • wicked annabella

    That's my jam... I've been meaning to do an extended edit of this for a couple months.

  • If you're liking Arthur and Village Green, I would recommend this :


    The Great Lost Kinks Album

  • alieNDNalieNDN 2,181 Posts
    why do bands today do the garage thing if it was already acheived years ago?

    what genre couldnt you apply this ridiculous thinking toward?

    i dont know, instrumentally...hip hop, country music,dance music and r&b dont sound like they did 20 years ago?

  • alieNDNalieNDN 2,181 Posts
    why do bands today do the garage thing if it was already acheived years ago?

    what genre couldnt you apply this ridiculous thinking toward?

    i dont know, instrumentally...hip hop, country music,dance music and r&b dont sound like they did 20 years ago?

    reading this the next day, i have to say i disagree with alieNDN.

    thanks for the suggestions on the kinks!
    ps: do they have a bbc session album? because i like the version of waterloo sunset from the bbc session better than the studio one.

  • cpeetzcpeetz 2,112 Posts
    Yes they do and it's great. By no means is it a substitute for their studio albums though...
    I just borrowed it from the Library and put in my Itunes a couple weeks ago. Topshelf!

  • why do bands today do the garage thing if it was already acheived years ago?

    what genre couldnt you apply this ridiculous thinking toward?

    i dont know, instrumentally...hip hop, country music,dance music and r&b dont sound like they did 20 years ago?

    i dont think they meant the music itself, they meant the PHASE of music...country music doesnt sound like it did in 1956, but there are leventy-seven artists out right now trying to get that '56 honky tonk sound

  • short version:

    1) IMO, the best kinks recordings are anything they did on the reprise label, or just in that general era (ca. 1964-71)...after they switched to RCA, it starts getting duller

    2) don't underrate the garageier material from the early pre-concept years (like most kinks fans tend to do)

  • alieNDNalieNDN 2,181 Posts
    as i said earlier, i said i disagreed with what i said prior, i listen to a lot of stuff that's new, but sounds like stuff ages ago...i was just egagerating. but thanks for the kinks info.

  • If you like the Kinks you should also pick up that Troggs anthology.

  • JRootJRoot 861 Posts
    short version:

    1) IMO, the best kinks recordings are anything they did on the reprise label, or just in that general era (ca. 1964-71)...after they switched to RCA, it starts getting duller

    2) don't underrate the garageier material from the early pre-concept years (like most kinks fans tend to do)

    I totally agree with number one (although Muswell Hillbillies is really worth listening to). Regarding number two, I don't think i know the music you're referring to. If it's before the kinks - the kinks (and not included on the Sanctuary reissue that has a whole album worth of bonus tracks - definitely worth the price), I haven't heard it.

    That said, I think their first two albums, The Kinks - The Kinks and Kinda Kinks, are really not that good. Their soul covers are lame. Once they stopped recording covers and went all original, they started to really kick ass. Something Else, Face to Face, and Village Green Preservation Society are all amazing end-to-end burners in my opinion. And my wife likes them too, so that's always a plus.

    Elliott Smith's live cover of "Waterloo Sunset" is great.

    JRoot

  • If you like the Kinks you should also pick up that Troggs anthology.

    I like both bands, but find it hard to compare the two, since the Kinks dropped the crude punk thing fairly early. The Troggs, however, carried that hard garage-punk sound like a burning cross (even though they dabbled in other things here & there, like their ballad hit "Love Is All Around").

  • short version:

    1) IMO, the best kinks recordings are anything they did on the reprise label, or just in that general era (ca. 1964-71)...after they switched to RCA, it starts getting duller

    2) don't underrate the garageier material from the early pre-concept years (like most kinks fans tend to do)

    I totally agree with number one (although Muswell Hillbillies is really worth listening to). Regarding number two, I don't think i know the music you're referring to. If it's before the kinks - the kinks (and not included on the Sanctuary reissue that has a whole album worth of bonus tracks - definitely worth the price), I haven't heard it.

    You do know what I'm talking about, believe me. When I say "garagier material," I definitely mean the songs from The Kinks, Kinda Kinks, and whatever other albums they had with a similar sound, like Kinks Size. You know, the "You Really Got Me"/"All Day & All Of The Night"/"Tired Of Waiting For You"/"Till The End Of The Day" era, before the Davies brothers got so sophisticated. This, my friend, is as garage as it gets.

    And when you refer to an album called The Kinks, do you mean You Really Got Me? Because that was the title of the band's first American[/b] album, and that's the version I have, so naturally I'm gonna look at it from that angle. I will admit, that album doesn't do it for me either. (Sorry, don't mean to come off like a record geek about it, but some of those UK bands had their albums formatted differently in the US, and I don't recall a self-titled LP on Reprise.)

    That said, I think their first two albums, The Kinks - The Kinks and Kinda Kinks, are really not that good. Their soul covers are lame. Once they stopped recording covers and went all original
    I don't focus on the cover versions, I just brush 'em off like lint from a suit. No, most of those remakes weren't up to par (although they did a pretty good "Louie Louie"). I focus on the originals - they had quite a few self-penned selections on those early albums, right alongside the horrid re-do's.

    Something Else, Face to Face, and Village Green Preservation Society are all amazing end-to-end burners in my opinion.
    Ever heard that album that Ray Davies produced for the Turtles? Seems to me if you like Village Green and alla that, Turtle Soup ought to be up your alley.

  • JRootJRoot 861 Posts
    You Really Got Me, All Day & All Night are two of the Kinks best songs. Even if I do fancy the more sophisticated material, when they let it out on those early records, they really let it out. It's great garage rock. The "Louie Louie" was pretty good, but most of the other covers were trash. Especially the soul/R&B covers.

    As for the names, I've got the UK reissues on CD, not the American reprise issues. Different names. Kinda like the Beatles records, except the Kinks haven't decided to reissue souped up versions of their American records on CD (yet).

    Turtle Soup is the only Turtles album that I have. But I listen to it about a thousandth as often as Village Green. I don't like the turtles as much. Maybe I should listen to it more often.


  • Turtle Soup is the only Turtles album that I have. But I listen to it about a thousandth as often as Village Green. I don't like the turtles as much. Maybe I should listen to it more often.

    Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that this particular Turtles album (their last) was an exact carbon copy of the late-sixties Kinks***, but it's true that they were huge Kinks fans and for that reason, somehow managed to get Ray Davies himself to produce their final album. I can kinda hear how the Kinks' sound influenced the Turtles at that point.

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    ***not just Village Green, I just threw that title out at random; I really meant that whole mid-late 60s period of their music
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  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
    I really like Turtle Soup because it's
    like mid-60's Kinks minus the UK-centric slant -
    stuff like Village Green is so deeply British
    that a US recording in the style comes off as pretty
    unique just by lacking that element.

  • mandrewmandrew 2,720 Posts
    living on a thin line
    misfits

  • mrmatthewmrmatthew 1,575 Posts

    stuff like Village Green is so deeply British.

  • erewhonerewhon 1,123 Posts
    If you're liking Arthur and Village Green, I would recommend this :


    The Great Lost Kinks Album
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