I want a Seven B comp NOW.
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This is my challenge to you folks:7001 - Roger & Gypsies - Pass The Hatchet / Pass The Hatchet Part 27002 - Eddie Bo - What You Gonna Do / Fallin' In Love7003 - Oliver Morgan - Roll Call / Sure Is Nice7004 - Sharon Gilbert - I Wonder What Would Happen / Where The Lonely Go7005 - Eddie Bo - From This Day On / Let Our Love Begin7006 - Eddie Lang - Something Within Me / Love I Have For You7007 - Oliver Morgan - La La Man / La La Man Part 27008 - Eddie Bo - Just Friends / Fence Of Love7009 - Pat Brown - Good Got To Suffer For The Bad / He's A Wonderful Guy7010 - Art Van - All My Love / Little Girl7011 - Eddie Bo - Skate It Out / All I Ask Of You7012 - Oliver Morgan - What's Good To You / ?7013 - Crescents - I'll Make A Vow / Come Back, Baby7014 - Eddie Lang - Sad One / Souling7015 - Eddie Bo - S.G.B. / Solid Foundation7016 - Lonny McDaniel & New Era - I Keep Telling Myself / Something Out Of Nothing7017 - Eddie Bo - Lover & A Friend / If I Had To Do It Over7018 - Bobby Williams - Boogaloo Mardi Gras / Part 27019 - Barbara George - Something You Got / Satisfied With Your Love7020 - Roy Ward - Horse With A Freeze / Part 27024 - Gerald Taylor - Lonely Man / I'm Coming Home7027 - Don Pittman - Didi-Wa / Saint Louis Blues7028 - Don Pittman - Mack The Knife / Leaving It Up To You7029 - Don Pittman - Almost Lost My Mind / Jambalaya7031 - Little Buck - Little Boy Blue / Whisper My Name7036 - Little Buck - Hurt In My Heart / True Love So Rare7039 - Don Pittman - I Can't Believe You've Stopped Loving Me / Stand By Your Man7041 - Denny Taylor - Make It / ?7042 - Pete Eveland & Royal Canal Street - Afternoon With Daisy / Drivin' Down To Dixie1225 - Isaac Clarke - Santa Claus Is Coming To Town / Part 2Except for maybe that last one.THEN I want a Proper Eddie Bo catch-all (Bo-Sound/Scram/Gold Cup/Knight/House of the Fox/Capitol/Big 9/Power Pac/etc.) in a BIG FAT BOX SET. Shit, throw in his 100+ "early" sides for good measure, too. 200+ songs? With bonus tracks and a huge recordpornphotobook? Why fucking not? Why is this so hard to envision? I mean, maybe a Volume One and Two is in order, but it's worth the years of legal molasses. Edwin Bocage is one of the more prolific writer/producers of popular music in the last 50 years, and he has no definitive multi-disc anthology. This is a fucking travesty. I can't say that I totally hate Funky Delicacies and Tuff City for their previous NOLA efforts housed in their tacky, terrible covers with questionable tracklistings and occasionally murky mixes (although I probably should), but we need Numero (or hell, Hip-O Select or Revenant) up in this shit. Fuck all naysayers.Remember: We Are SoulStrut. We Can Make It Happen.As you were.
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"I'm tired of you doggin' me around, with the kind of stuff you're puttin' down, that Stone Graveyard Business!!" [/b] (insert James Brown riff here)
Love this song. Right down to the archaic expression "Stone Graveyard Business" (which I have to start using one day). And the fact that he doesn't even spell it out in the title, it's just cryptically repped by the initials!!! In New Orleans they knew how to do it...
A couple of the other later 7B's are country & are a preferable choice to be dumped.
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A label like Sundazed needs to get involved.
I could put it up to him - I was thinking the same thing. I'll be first in line for that Florida Funk.
This is something I wish I could do, but I do not have the funds to do the groundwork, unlike some of you. If it's a matter of finding any existing masters, or finding top quality vinyl to master from, and dealing with licensing and everything else, do it. A 5CD box set would work for me, and were there any TV shows in New Orleans that were the equivalent of "American Bandstand"? See if any footage exists. Or public TV, radio broadcasts.
However, I think Tuff City owns the masters so... I don't know.
7002 - Eddie Bo - What You Gonna Do / Fallin' In Love
7009 - Pat Brown - Good Got To Suffer For The Bad / He's A Wonderful Guy
7017 - Eddie Bo - Lover & A Friend / If I Had To Do It Over
7019 - Barbara George - Something You Got / Satisfied With Your Love
7020 - Roy Ward - Horse With A Freeze / Part 2
7036 - Little Buck - Hurt In My Heart / True Love So Rare
Got these covered, K.
I also really want a 45 reissue with Garden of Four Trees and Jockey Ride.
DJ Ferrari
FORGET Rhino, somebody like Eddie Bo would be way too obscure for them
Plus, they put out that Standing Tall film again.
Side note: Is that Carol Jones singing in the club scene of that film? WOW!!!!!!!
Those Soul Jazz comps are pretty solid, I wonder if they had problems with the licensing? Another volume with some more obscure stuff would be nice.
Well, the same could have been said with The Meters. PLUS, Rhino now owns Sundazed. I wrote to Rhino asking them to reissue the Meters stuff on vinyl, and they said there was no reason to do so, as there was no market that would buy it. So what happens? Exactly.
Rhino USED to be about the obscure, but that was when they were releasing Star Of David-shaped and fish head shaped picture discs. If they felt Eddie Bo was too obscure, they could run it through Sundazed.
But again, if Tuff City has the rights to it, it's up to them.
A Bo boxset would be some hot shit for sure.
(Seriously, has anybody ever said anything good about Aaron Fuchs?)
Naw, the Meters have ALWAYS been worshipped by rock fans, and they did other more famous things... and they had those crossover major label records in the mid-70s. And they tour the country regularly. Hippie/jam-band fans love them.
The Meters are pretty damn huge by funk standards
Eddie Bo is far more obscure... a Rhino-type behemoth would only be interested in doing maybe the early R&B sides, if any...
Sue me - I'm a completist. What do you want for them? Shipping? PM me.
If Sundazed couldn't get it together, certainly someone in the UK (like Jazzman) could swing it.
As far as the rest of Bo's post-Seven B stuff, I imagine that Fuchs has his mitts on it (much of it has been issued on Tuff City).
I believe they are, but I'm not sure of the chronology, i.e. does the Soul Jazz licensing pre-date the Tuff City stuff or not?
I wonder what the situation is with the Bo-Sound stuff? 'Check Your Bucket' was issued in the UK back in 1973 on Action, so someone was licensing it even then.
Not quite - not to slight Eddie, but the Meters had more of a long-range influence and they were actually popular in their day. Hell, "Sophisticated Cissy" and "Cissy Strut" both charted in the pop Top 40. Eddie, on the other hand, may have had a hit or two, but never really broke out.
I don't think Rhino was ever about obscure, so much as overlooked. Sure, they put out comps on Slim Harpo, the Standells, and the Beau Brummels, but these were all once-famous artists who just didn't have much in print. Every now and then they'd dig deep (as when they put out that Thee Midniters compilation), but there was only so far into the ground they were going to go. By contrast, Sundazed has reissued stuff that even the 80's-era Rhino wouldn't have fucked with.
Isn't that more or less one and the same? I'm ready to be sonned again.
With Rhino, I go back to what they were doing pre-1985. Then again, I cared more about their World's Worst Records[/b] stuff than anything they did with the Yardbirds, Nazz, and The Turtles.
Gurus, anyone?
...andd situated in music mecca's.
K.
...so you KNOW Mr. Bocage has next. Or maybe it's:
Alright, alright, alright, you win. Shit.
I guess to me, I was giving Rhino the benefit of the doubt, and maybe the people whom I talked to at Rhino at the time looked at it from a business standpoint, more than one which looked into the history of a musician or a music, or era?
In a better world, there wouldn't be all this bullshit. In a better world, this box set would have been past history.
I honestly know the differences, but in a better world it shouldn't exist. But things have to sell, however I think if Rhino gave the job to Sundazed, and if marketed correctly, if Sundazed were able to obtain any existing masters from Tuff City, I am sure they would do a good job.
So let's get out of that for a moment. Let's say someone does bring up the idea for a Seven-B box set. Obviously Eddie Bo and his people would be in favor of it, but there is the issue of who owns the masters. There are enough writers, archivists, and journalists who could look into any existing tapes, session notes (if any exist, probably not), whatever. To take the concept of that box set, and market it to an audience who will buy it (think the way Egon does it with his reissues), but also make it appealing to those outside of that target audience. Or would thinking outside of that audience even matter?
I like what Mosaic does with their reissued boxes. They'll get the complete sessions for an artist, maybe the complete Elvin Jones Atlantic Sessions, try to find any extras, and release it. Make it a limited edition of 5000 copies and cut it off. There's already a built in audience in Japan, so I'm sure a big chunk of boxes would go there (I heard with some jazz box sets, more than half of what they press up goes to Japan). Then you have the European collectors and fans. Then you have those of us in the U.S. who also want to hear it too.
Eddie Bo is appealing to us because of how his music has been used and sampled over the years, but like those who got into James Brown for the same reason, we looked deeper to hear what he was about as an artist. That Wax Poetics interview was great, to have him admit that he freely did loads of sessions without much thought to it, and hinting that he did this and that under countless names, and maybe more.
NPR would be a good way to promote a box set outside of the box's target audience. Those who may have a casual liking to soul music, or the music of New Orleans, might go "oh, Eddie Bo. Never heard of him, but I like those songs."
I guess my point in my initial reply was not to get into a debate with you over overlooked and obscure, but to put the ideas out there so that a project like this can move forward. There is attention towards his music, and every few years there is a renewed awareness.
I agree in that The Meters aren't so obscure, especially when they went on tour with the Rolling Stones and had a deal with Reprise. Eddie Bo had brief distribution through Capitol, but that was it. Rejects on American Idol cite The Meters as a major influence. Amerie's big song samples a Meters song, it gets attention for its funkiness. Eddie Bo ends up sitting in with Dr. John on one of his recent albums, and still plays jazz festivals from time to time, but still is unknown.
I praise the regional heroes for doing their thing, and I guess I wished more could be done to promote his music outside of the target audience that looks to him as the supplier of great N.O. funk. Maybe Eddie Bo's music should only be enjoyed by those of us who came to enjoy his music first through the samples, and then hearing the music as is. If so, then someone take time to honor him with a great box set. There are loads of New Orleans compilations, why not a comprehensive Seven-B comp? Honor the regional heroes before they are no longer able to tell their story, their own way. If I had the money, I would get it rolling right now.
I'm surprised noboby has suggested NYC's Norton Records , who have been all over R&B/Blues/Soul re-issues, done right and done well, and sold cheaper than most, too. King Hannibal, Nathaniel Mayer, Gino Washington...Eddie Bo & even the Seven B stuff would fit right in, just the right balance of obscurity/accessibility for their line.