i got a plant sprayer bottle, and mix parsons sudsy ammonia with water: 8 parts water to 1 part Parsons. spray it on record, let it sit a second then wipe grooves clockwise only with cut up old cotton t-shirt squares. repeat if necessary. its cool because you can really apply pressure and scrub, so long as its damp and you go clockwise. Works wonders.
for cover splits and tears (only if i know im keeping the record): elmers applied carefully (keep it thin and let it set a bit so its tacky and not too thick before joining paper to cardboard), i use those metal clips to hold it in place so it dries properly.
That kinda scares me a little. The smell alone can kill, its got to leave its mark. I prefer alcohol, lighter fluid, goo be gone basically anything that is mostly alcohol.
Im not down with the elmers either, for things that come undone I prefer a good old glue stick. It distributes more evenly with less mess..plus its strong enough to get the job done. If it came unglued it wasnt too strong to begin with. Dont even get me started on using paper clips and clamps.
That kinda scares me a little. The smell alone can kill, its got to leave its mark. I prefer alcohol, lighter fluid, goo be gone basically anything that is mostly alcohol.
well, i used to use alchohol, and when i started using the method i described, i started getting way better results. could just be me though. you only put a little of the parsons in, its mostly water. it does smell while using it - but it evaporates, leaving nothing smelly on the record. its better for actual "dirt" removal, i think. but it might be 6 of 1, .5 dozen of another.
Im not down with the elmers either, for things that come undone I prefer a good old glue stick. It distributes more evenly with less mess..plus its strong enough to get the job done. If it came unglued it wasnt too strong to begin with. Dont even get me started on using paper clips and clamps.
yeah, i can see the glue stick working good... I sorta developed a nerd-tastic technique with the elmers that involves using a very thin sharpened wooden dowl stick to apply it right where its needed (under paper flaps etc), and ive had great success so far. Ive actually reattatched completely split covers into fully functioning jackets that dont fall apart again and look pretty good. but glue sticks are rad.
i use the Bags Unlimited Groovy Cleaner because I got a bottle for free, spray some on and wipe with a lint-free cloth.
the only repair i ever make to covers is if they're the one-piece newer style, if a seam comes unglued I'll reglue it with tacky glue, other than that I leave seam splits and tears and shit alone.
Ive had good results using a hairdryer to rid covers from messy tape jobs on the seams. Hot air softens the glue and the tape can be gently peeled off....and any residue will just wipe away.
I made excelent experiences with a small ultasonic bath for 45s and just ordered a big one for LPs.
Digging here in Africa makes you get pretty inventive/desperate in some cases. I made successful experiments with Hydrochloric Acid that eats away most everything that is not Vinyl.(Vinyl as in PolyVINYLchloride (PVC) is a very sturdy material, they even make containers out of it to store agressive chemical substances in)
Lighterfluid is pretty good, dissolves candle wax amongst other things (candle wax stains are frequent in Africa since people always used candles during the very frequent power failures.
I found this one minute longer and one drumbreak richer 45 version of docteur Nico's Sookie -it was trashed and had a crack. I cleaned it with hydrochloric acid, then with oven cleaner and finaly superglued a piece of a box cutter blade to the back of it to repair the crack. Voil?? -sounded good enough for club play! Even got through Airport security with it...
VPI fully automatic. Homemade solution: distilled H2O, 91% alcohol 8 parts to 1, a dash of windex (cuts grease and helps evaporate the solution).
ORB Disc flattener (within a month or so).
I will tape messy seam splits if the record is not too pricey, otherwise I leave it alone. Glue splits I re-glue with elmers and paperclips but I want to get a glue stick. Elmers has never let me down though.
First get large bowl fill with warm water add one small drop of Method brand diswashing liquid. Use a sponge with the warm soapy water to thoroughly clean the tough dirt. It really gets up the shit stuck in the grooves from years of dust and finger print oils etc.
Second after the record is dry, take a spray bottle and fill it with 1/2 water and 1/2 isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol). Use a dry (not very fibrous) cloth. Spray the solution onto the cloth or the record directly and wipe away. This last step removes any soap residue from step one which can and will trap additional dust.
Flea market finds end up sounding like they came from a dealer!
Coffinjoe how much are those ultrasonic joints? I've been using the alcohol water spray bottle method and its good but not so thorough. When I bring back records form PR they are usually caked in something and my usual cleaning only removes surface stuff, I know there has to be stuff deeper in the grooves affecting playback and infecting my needle.
One of the guys at Academy told me that VPI vacuum cleaning methods can potentially damage a record by moving the grooves out of place with such strong suction. Any of you heard antyhing like that before? He also said back in the day people use to just put records under the sink and scrub them with soap and water. This method must have been popular cause damn I find some roughed up records.
One of the guys at Academy told me that VPI vacuum cleaning methods can potentially damage a record by moving the grooves out of place with such strong suction. Any of you heard antyhing like that before?
I've been using the alcohol water spray bottle method and its good but not so thorough. When I bring back records form PR they are usually caked in something and my usual cleaning only removes surface stuff, I know there has to be stuff deeper in the grooves affecting playback and infecting my needle.
elbow grease, my man, elbow grease. To make the no budget technique work you have to really rub and push and sponge. My hands and forearms are typically burning with lactic acid by the time I am done cleaning a batch of 20 records.
One of the guys at Academy told me that VPI vacuum cleaning methods can potentially damage a record by moving the grooves out of place with such strong suction. Any of you heard antyhing like that before?
yes, that's why i went ultra
Coffinjoe how much are those ultrasonic joints?
from $100 (small ones, good for 7", but to slow for 12") to $500 you don't need all the whistles & bells offered, mine was $300, a friend found a bit more powerful model for $250, but lacks some of the noise reductions. you can use straight tap water, or a squirt of dishwash or dr bonners to help remove grease no brushes or sponges need to touch the vinyl in use for 25+ years by ja reggae/ska collectors gets that ground in greasy sand & grit out
dudes use to keep it a big secret b/w or charge $$ for "cleaning services" (outernational + nighthawk related)
One of the guys at Academy told me that VPI vacuum cleaning methods can potentially damage a record by moving the grooves out of place with such strong suction. Any of you heard antyhing like that before?
huh? yeah, need to verify this.
i know that you better make sure there is no grit or anything that can stick up on the felt. bad news. use a rag to preclean or canned air.
perhaps some people vacuum too long? you only need to get the fluid off. 2-3 rotations. most people slop too much fluid on there.
Yeah I do not use the built-in fluid dispenser for that reason. Spray bottle thx. Clean the felt, etc. Replace the tube and the brush every 4-6 months.
I have cleaned literally thousands of records on this machine and not a one has been worse off afterwards - everyone has a tale of what makes their method better, but VPI is a top company that would not have made these machines popular for years if they didn't work.
One guy at a record store vs. some of the most serious collectros/dealers I've met...
I don't know about VA, but up here in NYC tap water got harsh metal and living organisms in it among other impurities. That shit can not only damage your record but the microscopic organisms can latch on and live in your grooves.
I don't really keep kosher, but I still do not want shellfish in my records
I don't know about VA, but up here in NYC tap water got harsh metal and living organisms in it among other impurities. That shit can not only damage your record but the microscopic organisms can latch on and live in your grooves.
I don't really keep kosher, but I still do not want shellfish in my records
i think by the nature of how ultrasonic works this is avoided like i say been used for decades with no iff effects
I'v been singing the praises of this machine for a long time - the KAB record claner is the best bang for your buck in the way of record cleaning machines. Recommended it to Meaty & I think he's been getting good use out of it. Its 100 bucks, cleans your records to perfection. Been using it for 3 years with no problem. I'm a picky guy & I like this machine. The real deal. Best deal in audio & record related ish.
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lighter fluid for the toughies and to remove price tags and other gunk.
i've been known to glue a few covers if they split with no tears, elmers.
i got a plant sprayer bottle, and mix parsons sudsy ammonia with water: 8 parts
water to 1 part Parsons. spray it on record, let it sit a second then wipe grooves
clockwise only with cut up old cotton t-shirt squares. repeat if necessary. its cool
because you can really apply pressure and scrub, so long as its damp and you go
clockwise. Works wonders.
for cover splits and tears (only if i know im keeping the record): elmers applied
carefully (keep it thin and let it set a bit so its tacky and not too thick before
joining paper to cardboard), i use those metal clips to hold it in place so it
dries properly.
That kinda scares me a little. The smell alone can kill, its got to leave its mark. I prefer alcohol, lighter fluid, goo be gone basically anything that is mostly alcohol.
Im not down with the elmers either, for things that come undone I prefer a good old glue stick. It distributes more evenly with less mess..plus its strong enough to get the job done. If it came unglued it wasnt too strong to begin with. Dont even get me started on using paper clips and clamps.
yeah, i can see the glue stick working good... I sorta developed a nerd-tastic technique with the elmers that involves using a very thin sharpened wooden dowl stick to apply it right where its needed (under paper flaps etc), and ive had great success so far. Ive actually reattatched completely split covers into fully functioning jackets that dont fall apart again and look pretty good. but glue sticks are rad.
I use this little machine, it works really fine!
the only repair i ever make to covers is if they're the one-piece newer style, if a seam comes unglued I'll reglue it with tacky glue, other than that I leave seam splits and tears and shit alone.
anyone else rocking these ??
get space age on that dirt & grime
for 25 years now
Digging here in Africa makes you get pretty inventive/desperate in some cases.
I made successful experiments with Hydrochloric Acid that eats away most everything that is not Vinyl.(Vinyl as in PolyVINYLchloride (PVC) is a very sturdy material, they even make containers out of it to store agressive chemical substances in)
Lighterfluid is pretty good, dissolves candle wax amongst other things (candle wax stains are frequent in Africa since people always used candles during the very frequent power failures.
I found this one minute longer and one drumbreak richer 45 version of docteur Nico's Sookie -it was trashed and had a crack. I cleaned it with hydrochloric acid, then with oven cleaner and finaly superglued a piece of a box cutter blade to the back of it to repair the crack. Voil?? -sounded good enough for club play!
Even got through Airport security with it...
ORB Disc flattener (within a month or so).
I will tape messy seam splits if the record is not too pricey, otherwise I leave it alone. Glue splits I re-glue with elmers and paperclips but I want to get a glue stick. Elmers has never let me down though.
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!
Hops around like a little girl.
How much per record?
Two step process.
First get large bowl fill with warm water add one small drop of Method brand diswashing liquid. Use a sponge with the warm soapy water to thoroughly clean the tough dirt. It really gets up the shit stuck in the grooves from years of dust and finger print oils etc.
Second after the record is dry, take a spray bottle and fill it with 1/2 water and 1/2 isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol). Use a dry (not very fibrous) cloth. Spray the solution onto the cloth or the record directly and wipe away. This last step removes any soap residue from step one which can and will trap additional dust.
Flea market finds end up sounding like they came from a dealer!
works every time and costs next to nothing.
One of the guys at Academy told me that VPI vacuum cleaning methods can potentially damage a record by moving the grooves out of place with such strong suction. Any of you heard antyhing like that before? He also said back in the day people use to just put records under the sink and scrub them with soap and water. This method must have been popular cause damn I find some roughed up records.
Disc Doctor Brushes, baby. Home made solution 66.66 % Iso-alcohol and 33.33 % distilled water. Pre-treatment in the sink for hard to clean pieces.
elbow grease, my man, elbow grease. To make the no budget technique work you have to really rub and push and sponge. My hands and forearms are typically burning with lactic acid by the time I am done cleaning a batch of 20 records.
No pain, no gain.
yes, that's why i went ultra
from $100 (small ones, good for 7", but to slow for 12") to $500
you don't need all the whistles & bells offered, mine was $300, a friend
found a bit more powerful model for $250,
but lacks some of the noise reductions.
you can use straight tap water,
or a squirt of dishwash or dr bonners to help remove grease
no brushes or sponges need to touch the vinyl
in use for 25+ years by ja reggae/ska collectors
gets that ground in greasy sand & grit out
dudes use to keep it a big secret
b/w
or charge $$ for "cleaning services"
(outernational + nighthawk related)
holla
huh? yeah, need to verify this.
i know that you better make sure there is no grit or anything that can stick up on the felt. bad news. use a rag to preclean or canned air.
perhaps some people vacuum too long? you only need to get the fluid off. 2-3 rotations. most people slop too much fluid on there.
I have cleaned literally thousands of records on this machine and not a one has been worse off afterwards - everyone has a tale of what makes their method better, but VPI is a top company that would not have made these machines popular for years if they didn't work.
One guy at a record store vs. some of the most serious collectros/dealers I've met...
it's all molecular & shit
I don't really keep kosher, but I still do not want shellfish in my records
salty residues left by tap water produce sound when interacting with the needle.
i think by the nature of how ultrasonic works
this is avoided
like i say
been used for decades with no iff effects
Still. I don't want no crustaceans in my grooves.