DocMcCoy"Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
I always liked "My Block" off "The Show" soundtrack. Generally, I preferred his more low-key, thoughtful shit over the intense, hardcore joints most people seem to like him for.
there is very little off 2pacalypse Now that isn't pure fiyah.
that being said his verse on California Love has always made me pretty damn hype. and "how do you want it" brings a smile to my face for nostalgic reasons.
dude is/was a legend, yet i always feel like i am trying to vindicate him to people who pretend to 'love' hip-hop.
If you haven't seen the documentary on him "Ressurection" do yourself a favor and resnt it ASAP. its a very well put together piece that has him narrating his life from beyond the grave. His vulnerability is shocking and his commitment to the life he lead is equally as impressive.
On the extras you can catch a speech about race and politics he made at 20 years old that sounds like it has the wealth of knowledge that man 3 times that age would barely be able to speak on.
When My Homies Call Ambitionz Az a Rider Strictly for my N.I.G.G.A.Z. Holler If You Hear Me How Do You Want It Hail Mary Me Against The World All About U!!!
Hands down "Straight Ballin' " off of Thug Life, after that maybe "It ain't easy" off Me against the World even though it's that cheesy (??) live instrumentation shit, it's classic to me.
I always wondered how many tracks he recorded and released with big before their deaths. There's the one from the soundtrack (that I just forgot the title of) and runnin! Is there more?
If you haven't seen the documentary on him "Ressurection" do yourself a favor and resnt it ASAP. its a very well put together piece that has him narrating his life from beyond the grave. His vulnerability is shocking and his commitment to the life he lead is equally as impressive.
On the extras you can catch a speech about race and politics he made at 20 years old that sounds like it has the wealth of knowledge that man 3 times that age would barely be able to speak on.
Dude was truly incredible
It's some time since I saw it but I remember being somehow annoyed by the way all these bits of interviews were piece together.
Musically he did what alot of rappers did and had already done but he was just better to express in words what he did.
Check this short 3 part interview. I think he explains some issues very well here.
I get around Whats ya phone # Pain If my homie calls Words of wisdom Trapped Holler if ya hear me Point the finga So many tears No more pain Only god can judge me Picture me rollin Blasphemy Pour out a little liquor Str8 Ballin
what is it about tupac that attracts yall so much?
delivery, words, tracks he rocks over, etc...
i dont like tupac at all. his delivery is very nice and his voice is okay at times. his songs bore me though and most of his production bores me too. i guess i also grew up with most of his interscope stuff which i thought was good but i never really cared overall. anything after "brenda" is kinda garbage in my opinion. especially all that DR shit he was doing after he got out of jail..
most of this could be because he changed up his game 4x and kept saying "naw this is who i really am..." kinda talk. that shit annoyed me. i also was way more into the east coast rap style than i was with the west coast and almost all my folks couldnt get with dudes shit so... well, yeah, so i didnt listen.
i guess it just fascinates me how people have grabbed hold of dudes music so hard that theyre on some ride or die tupac 4life. college courses on his music, books about him, poetry about how he changed folks lives... etc.
so.... why yall love him so much? make me see the light...
im not out for a fight with no one... just telling you my thoughts.
i also was way more into the east coast rap style than i was with the west coast and almost all my folks couldnt get with dudes shit so... well, yeah, so i didnt listen.[/b]
i guess it just fascinates me how people have grabbed hold of dudes music so hard that theyre on some ride or die tupac 4life. college courses on his music, books about him, poetry about how he changed folks lives... etc.
so.... why yall love him so much? make me see the light...
why should we even try to explain if you haven't even tried to listen.
i was admittedly an 'east coast' dude too, but after giving pac a few listens i realized he said some pretty amazing shit. and he connected with huge groups of people. thus the ride or die people.
my suggestion, listen to 2pacalypse Now...personally that is an easy one to acquaint yourself with, good production, political, some bangers, etc. But, if you still have hang ups from a contrived beef or suge knight, then call it quits now. Pac got plenty of fans...
what is it about tupac that attracts yall so much?
delivery, words, tracks he rocks over, etc...
i dont like tupac at all. his delivery is very nice and his voice is okay at times. his songs bore me though and most of his production bores me too. i guess i also grew up with most of his interscope stuff which i thought was good but i never really cared overall. anything after "brenda" is kinda garbage in my opinion. especially all that DR shit he was doing after he got out of jail..
most of this could be because he changed up his game 4x and kept saying "naw this is who i really am..." kinda talk. that shit annoyed me. i also was way more into the east coast rap style than i was with the west coast and almost all my folks couldnt get with dudes shit so... well, yeah, so i didnt listen.
i guess it just fascinates me how people have grabbed hold of dudes music so hard that theyre on some ride or die tupac 4life. college courses on his music, books about him, poetry about how he changed folks lives... etc.
so.... why yall love him so much? make me see the light...
im not out for a fight with no one... just telling you my thoughts.
I have to agree with Jinx here, I really don't see the attraction. Not hating, I just don't understand what makes 2Pac really stand out so much other than the fact he died before his time. Might be a good time to re-visit some of the tracks people have mentioned so far though.
That is all--not just my favorites, but the only ones I can stand.
i like these and i agree...
california love was played SO MUCH out here that while once i really liked that track and now i cant stand it.
i heard tupac ALL day yesterday on the local radio stations. i purposely listened in to hear his music some... yeah hes a dope lyricist but i still cant feel him the way some of yall do. maybe if i sat down and just listened to his vocals id get into his stuff a little more.
i worked in the music industry from 92/00 so i heard every album he put out up until that point... so its not like i never sat and listened to his records, like, once. what im saying is that i just didnt really listen cause no one i knew liked him so i never got to roll around the streets listening to his music or up in the clubs that i went to we never heard his stuff being played. plus i dealt with mostly college and mixshow DJs during those years and they never really reported playing those tracks unless the label reps were hounding them to report it to me or if DRows label rep hollered at me afraid he'd get beat down if pacs music didnt make our charts.
what is it about tupac that attracts yall so much?
delivery, words, tracks he rocks over, etc...
i dont like tupac at all. his delivery is very nice and his voice is okay at times. his songs bore me though and most of his production bores me too. i guess i also grew up with most of his interscope stuff which i thought was good but i never really cared overall. anything after "brenda" is kinda garbage in my opinion. especially all that DR shit he was doing after he got out of jail..
most of this could be because he changed up his game 4x and kept saying "naw this is who i really am..." kinda talk. that shit annoyed me. i also was way more into the east coast rap style than i was with the west coast and almost all my folks couldnt get with dudes shit so... well, yeah, so i didnt listen.
i guess it just fascinates me how people have grabbed hold of dudes music so hard that theyre on some ride or die tupac 4life. college courses on his music, books about him, poetry about how he changed folks lives... etc.
so.... why yall love him so much? make me see the light...
im not out for a fight with no one... just telling you my thoughts.
I have to agree with Jinx here, I really don't see the attraction. Not hating, I just don't understand what makes 2Pac really stand out so much other than the fact he died before his time. Might be a good time to re-visit some of the tracks people have mentioned so far though.
When 2Pacalypse first dropped i thought 'Trapped' was decent and the support of DU gave him some credit/connections---he seemed to be able to perfectly capture the inner-city angst and fury that many minorities were sensing in the early 90's...his roles in Juice and Above the Rim further catapulted him into the spotlight and his brushes with the law and numerous courtcases--not to mention his affiliation with the Panthers--made him a figure whose male bravado and fearless 'F the Police' attitude encapsulated a feeling many hiphoppers could readily indentify with...once he hooked up with Dre though it was officially
pain loyal to the game definition of a thug nigga point tha finga peep game guess who's back representin 93 strictly 4 my niggaz bury me a g pour out a little liqour str8 ballin stay true
DocMcCoy"Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
i also was way more into the east coast rap style than i was with the west coast and almost all my folks couldnt get with dudes shit so... well, yeah, so i didnt listen.[/b]
i guess it just fascinates me how people have grabbed hold of dudes music so hard that theyre on some ride or die tupac 4life. college courses on his music, books about him, poetry about how he changed folks lives... etc.
so.... why yall love him so much? make me see the light...
why should we even try to explain if you haven't even tried to listen.
i was admittedly an 'east coast' dude too, but after giving pac a few listens i realized he said some pretty amazing shit. and he connected with huge groups of people. thus the ride or die people.
my suggestion, listen to 2pacalypse Now...personally that is an easy one to acquaint yourself with, good production, political, some bangers, etc. But, if you still have hang ups from a contrived beef or suge knight, then call it quits now. Pac got plenty of fans...
My theory, for what it's worth, is that Pac performed a similar role in the lives of a generation of black kids as Kurt Cobain did for the corresponding generation of white kids. Their music couldn't be more different, obviously, but either by accident or design, they both became controversial, iconic figures whose audience saw their music as something which spoke directly to them, and who had a lasting cultural impact far beyond just music, both in life and in death. In the latter case, their early deaths have only strengthened that impact.
Feel free to apply liberal use of the graemlin if you disagree.
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that being said his verse on California Love has always made me pretty damn hype. and "how do you want it" brings a smile to my face for nostalgic reasons.
dude is/was a legend, yet i always feel like i am trying to vindicate him to people who pretend to 'love' hip-hop.
fucking hatters.
fanboy
What's the name of that movie?
On the extras you can catch a speech about race and politics he made at 20 years old that sounds like it has the wealth of knowledge that man 3 times that age would barely be able to speak on.
Dude was truly incredible
"same song"....not a movie, but lovely in its own right.
same song
"Same Song"
"I Get Around"
"The DFLO Shuttle"
That is all--not just my favorites, but the only ones I can stand.
Ambitionz Az a Rider
Strictly for my N.I.G.G.A.Z.
Holler If You Hear Me
How Do You Want It
Hail Mary
Me Against The World
All About U!!!
Damn dude there are SO MANY.
I always wondered how many tracks he recorded and released with big before their deaths. There's the one from the soundtrack (that I just forgot the title of) and runnin! Is there more?
It's some time since I saw it but I remember being somehow annoyed by the way all these bits of interviews were piece together.
Musically he did what alot of rappers did and had already done but he was just better to express in words what he did.
Check this short 3 part interview. I think he explains some issues very well here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnp3lch_ZEY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye6Y2keDEF0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI4-ryYumQE
Did anyone see the british documentary on big's death? it's on youtube in 11 or 12 parts. search for "Biggie and Tupac Documentary"
Whats ya phone #
Pain
If my homie calls
Words of wisdom
Trapped
Holler if ya hear me
Point the finga
So many tears
No more pain
Only god can judge me
Picture me rollin
Blasphemy
Pour out a little liquor
Str8 Ballin
"Temptation" is
old school
i get around
i got my mind made up
pour out a little liquor
etc
delivery, words, tracks he rocks over, etc...
i dont like tupac at all. his delivery is very nice and his voice is okay at times. his songs bore me though and most of his production bores me too. i guess i also grew up with most of his interscope stuff which i thought was good but i never really cared overall. anything after "brenda" is kinda garbage in my opinion. especially all that DR shit he was doing after he got out of jail..
most of this could be because he changed up his game 4x and kept saying "naw this is who i really am..." kinda talk. that shit annoyed me. i also was way more into the east coast rap style than i was with the west coast and almost all my folks couldnt get with dudes shit so... well, yeah, so i didnt listen.
i guess it just fascinates me how people have grabbed hold of dudes music so hard that theyre on some ride or die tupac 4life. college courses on his music, books about him, poetry about how he changed folks lives... etc.
so.... why yall love him so much? make me see the light...
im not out for a fight with no one... just telling you my thoughts.
why should we even try to explain if you haven't even tried to listen.
i was admittedly an 'east coast' dude too, but after giving pac a few listens i realized he said some pretty amazing shit. and he connected with huge groups of people. thus the ride or die people.
my suggestion, listen to 2pacalypse Now...personally that is an easy one to acquaint yourself with, good production, political, some bangers, etc. But, if you still have hang ups from a contrived beef or suge knight, then call it quits now. Pac got plenty of fans...
To Live and Die in L.A.
i like these and i agree...
california love was played SO MUCH out here that while once i really liked that track and now i cant stand it.
i heard tupac ALL day yesterday on the local radio stations. i purposely listened in to hear his music some... yeah hes a dope lyricist but i still cant feel him the way some of yall do. maybe if i sat down and just listened to his vocals id get into his stuff a little more.
i worked in the music industry from 92/00 so i heard every album he put out up until that point... so its not like i never sat and listened to his records, like, once. what im saying is that i just didnt really listen cause no one i knew liked him so i never got to roll around the streets listening to his music or up in the clubs that i went to we never heard his stuff being played. plus i dealt with mostly college and mixshow DJs during those years and they never really reported playing those tracks unless the label reps were hounding them to report it to me or if DRows label rep hollered at me afraid he'd get beat down if pacs music didnt make our charts.
ill go grab 2pacalypse and give it a listen...
When 2Pacalypse first dropped i thought 'Trapped' was decent and the support of DU gave him some credit/connections---he seemed to be able to perfectly capture the inner-city angst and fury that many minorities were sensing in the early 90's...his roles in Juice and Above the Rim further catapulted him into the spotlight and his brushes with the law and numerous courtcases--not to mention his affiliation with the Panthers--made him a figure whose male bravado and fearless 'F the Police' attitude encapsulated a feeling many hiphoppers could readily indentify with...once he hooked up with Dre though it was officially
loyal to the game
definition of a thug nigga
point tha finga
peep game
guess who's back
representin 93
strictly 4 my niggaz
bury me a g
pour out a little liqour
str8 ballin
stay true
My theory, for what it's worth, is that Pac performed a similar role in the lives of a generation of black kids as Kurt Cobain did for the corresponding generation of white kids. Their music couldn't be more different, obviously, but either by accident or design, they both became controversial, iconic figures whose audience saw their music as something which spoke directly to them, and who had a lasting cultural impact far beyond just music, both in life and in death. In the latter case, their early deaths have only strengthened that impact.
Feel free to apply liberal use of the
production by 'david blake' lol