Is hollywood going too far ?

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  • paulnicepaulnice 924 Posts

    Im not calling anyone who wants to see this movie a dummy at all. But I'm sure there will be a percentage of watchers who will take it for fact.


    Well the film is certainly based on fact, no?
    I'm still not clear here as to what exactly you're implying the film is relaying to the audience.
    Are you saying it's distorted bullshit? And if yes, how so?

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts

    Im not calling anyone who wants to see this movie a dummy at all. But I'm sure there will be a percentage of watchers who will take it for fact.


    Well the film is certainly based on fact, no?
    I'm still not clear here as to what exactly you're implying the film is relaying to the audience.
    Are you saying it's distorted bullshit? And if yes, how so?

    FeelGoodism during tradgedy. Classic Hollywood hero-worship ala Towering Inferno.
    Entertainment based on fact.

    I wont need it, I saw it. To each his own. Pass the popcorn.

  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,905 Posts
    I was watching something on this film.

    Am I wrong, or isn't this film, not so much to do about 9/11 as to, really more about the 2 guys and their day and their story?

    I'll watch it before I give an opinion.

  • grandpa_shiggrandpa_shig 5,799 Posts
    prolly wont see it cuz i dont really like disaster movies. plus oliver stone is too heavy handed for my taste.

    i am excited about the new michael mann miami vice joint though.

    what is "snakes on a plane"? there's ads all over town.

    oh, and i like the new old navy commercial.

  • deejdeej 5,125 Posts
    i am excited about the new michael mann miami vice joint though.

    Yes!

    what is "snakes on a plane"? there's ads all over town.

    Internet hype gone too far. A film that can't possibly live up to the concept but is destined for cult status anyway. A big, annoying cult.

  • paulnicepaulnice 924 Posts

    FeelGoodism during tradgedy. Classic Hollywood hero-worship ala Towering Inferno.
    Entertainment based on fact.

    I wont need it, I saw it. To each his own. Pass the popcorn.


    Which film are you saying is cloaked in "feelgoodism"?
    It certainly wasn't United 93.
    United 93 was the complete polar opposite of a feel good movie.
    (did you even see it?)

    WTC, again, I can't speak on.

  • grandpa_shiggrandpa_shig 5,799 Posts
    no opinion on the new old navy commercial, deej?

    SUN U BETTER GIT YO FASH ON

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    un-Hollywood as Schindler's List



    Best Art Direction/Set Decoration
    Best Cinematography
    Best Director
    Best Film Editing
    Best Music/Original Score
    Best Picture
    Best Writing,Screenplay Based on Material from Another Medium



    I guess you know Hollywood?

  • DjArcadianDjArcadian 3,633 Posts

    what is "snakes on a plane"? there's ads all over town.

    Internet hype gone too far. A film that can't possibly live up to the concept but is destined for cult status anyway. A big, annoying cult.

    The hype was short lived and they missed the boat frankly. I don't think anyone cares about it anymore. Besides, I don't think it will be nearly as campy as everyone is hoping.

  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,905 Posts


    what is "snakes on a plane"? there's ads all over town.

    Internet hype gone too far. A film that can't possibly live up to the concept but is destined for cult status anyway. A big, annoying cult.




    O RLY?

  • akoako https://soundcloud.com/a-ko 3,419 Posts


    what is "snakes on a plane"? there's ads all over town.

    Internet hype gone too far. A film that can't possibly live up to the concept but is destined for cult status anyway. A big, annoying cult.



    i must admit, some of those made me laugh...but mostly the ones that didnt rhyme

  • paulnicepaulnice 924 Posts



    Best Art Direction/Set Decoration
    Best Cinematography
    Best Director
    Best Film Editing
    Best Music/Original Score
    Best Picture
    Best Writing,Screenplay Based on Material from Another Medium



    I guess you know Hollywood?






    Aside from the very last 20 minutes of the film, which admittedly descend into overwrought Spielbergian sentimentalism, Schindler's List, as Dabney put it, was incredibly raw and gritty, and it honestly doesn't feel like any film made before or since.
    Aside from that ending, it certainly doesn't feel like anything else Spielberg has done in his career.
    And much deserved awards aside, It's tough for me to fathom anyone sitting through Schindler's List and coming away feeling like they just sat through some "typical Hollywood" fare.
    Despite our popular convictions, Hollywood does produce works of art from time to time.
    That which is both critically and commercialy successful ("The Godfather" anyone?).

    And no, I really don't see how you managed to view United 93 as a "Hollywood" "feel good" movie with "Towering Inferno" like "hero-worship."


    You sure we're talking about the same film??

  • Mike_BellMike_Bell 5,736 Posts


    what is "snakes on a plane"? there's ads all over town.

    Internet hype gone too far. A film that can't possibly live up to the concept but is destined for cult status anyway. A big, annoying cult.



  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    And no, I really don't see how you managed to view United 93 as a "Hollywood" "feel good" movie with "Towering Inferno" like "hero-worship."

    You sure we're talking about the same film??

    I'm not talkin about "united" 93. I'm talkin about The Hollywood Formula which permeates many of these "historical events" films. Do the math.

    Whatever................pass the popcorn and no smoking please.

  • grandpa_shiggrandpa_shig 5,799 Posts
    actually youre just talking in circles and not really answering anyone's question. but its still amusing. carry on!



    fyi
    mann's miami vice is the hype of hollywood right now. not this wtc movie. cover of the la weekly and 2 articles in the calendar section of la times. the LA newspapers love to shine their hollywood.

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
    dude I'm all about Miami Vice

    shit is gonna ROOL

  • paulnicepaulnice 924 Posts

    actually youre just talking in circles and not really answering anyone's question. but whatever[/b].

  • paulnicepaulnice 924 Posts


    Just saw Miami Vice.
    Horrible.
    Shoulda stayed home and watched Heat or Collateral instead.
    Gong Li needs her own movie.

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  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    Just saw Miami Vice.
    Horrible.
    Shoulda stayed home and watched Heat or Collateral instead.
    Gong Li needs her own movie.

    Was there a love story in there somewhere?

  • SIRUSSIRUS 2,554 Posts
    Just saw Miami Vice.
    Horrible.
    Shoulda stayed home and watched Heat or Collateral instead.
    Gong Li needs her own movie.

    Was there a love story in there somewhere?
    gong li is that crack in "shanghai triad".

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    Just saw Miami Vice.
    Horrible.
    Shoulda stayed home and watched Heat or Collateral instead.
    Gong Li needs her own movie.

    Was there a love story in there somewhere?
    gong li is that crack in "shanghai triad".

    Name 3 good tv adaptation flicks?

  • SIRUSSIRUS 2,554 Posts
    1."heat"
    2."transformers:the movie"
    3."strangers with candy"

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    1."heat"
    2."transformers:the movie"
    3."strangers with candy"


    Dont know the Heat Tv show.
    Transformers the new movie(06) ot the one that debuted when the tv show was still on?
    Strangers w/ Candy I like the show, but its not 20/30 yrs old like.....

    Flintstones
    Bewitched
    Charlie's Angels
    Starsky & Hutch
    Brady Bunch
    Dukes of Hazzard
    Addams Family
    Mod Squad
    Wild Wild West
    Lost in Space
    Dragnet
    Honeymooners
    I Spy
    Mission Impossible
    Scooby Doo
    Beverly Hillbillies

    Miami Vice

    Read the pattern

  • SIRUSSIRUS 2,554 Posts
    ok, the heat one is kind of a stretch. it wasn't a series but a made for t.v. special called "l.a. takedown".mann basically remade it for the movies and called it "heat".

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    ok, the heat one is kind of a stretch. it wasn't a series but a made for t.v. special called "l.a. takedown".mann basically remade it for the movies and called it "heat".

    ever see this.............





    If you want proto-Miami Vice, this is the flick.
    Don Johnson holds his pistol just like James Cann.
    Tangerine Dream Score.

  • SIRUSSIRUS 2,554 Posts
    yeah, that's a good one. for some reason i always get that movie mixed up with "fingers" even though they are nothing alike.
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