I never liked how Jay decided to start off "The Blueprint" but "December 4th" is kick ass despite the fact that, indeed, his mom talking does get annoying.
not sure if a "kick ass" album can have a crappy first song and still be eligible for "kickassness"
but...i tend to skip "December 4th" of the Black Album. that said
I was conceived by Gloria Carter and Adaness Revees Who made love under the Siccamore tree Which makes me A more sicker M.C.
doesn't practically EVERY rap album have an unnecessarilly longass intro that gets skipped after hearing it once and realizing it's kinda pointless?
The difference is between intros which are just blah blah blah vs. something that actually resembles more of a song (which I think "the Ruler's Back" qualifies as).
that said - best intro that could have gone wrong but didn't: the intro to "Stakes Is High."
that said - best intro that could have gone wrong but didn't: the intro to "Stakes Is High."
too bad about the rest of the album though.
Hatter.
you honestly don't see the dramatic shift in tone between that intro and rest of the albums mostly boo hoo old man rap?
What?!?!?! Stakes is like De La's second best record after De La Soul iz Dead. The production value alone makes it bananas. Long Island Degrees? Dinninit?
that said - best intro that could have gone wrong but didn't: the intro to "Stakes Is High."
too bad about the rest of the album though.
Hatter.
you honestly don't see the dramatic shift in tone between that intro and rest of the albums mostly boo hoo old man rap?
What?!?!?! Stakes is like De La's second best record after De La Soul iz Dead. The production value alone makes it bananas. Long Island Degrees? Dinninit?
I can't agree with either Noz OR Vitamin here. I liked the album. Their four best but a distant fourth behind the first three LPs.
"Stakes" better than "3 Ft High" and "Buhloone"? Never that.
that said - best intro that could have gone wrong but didn't: the intro to "Stakes Is High."
too bad about the rest of the album though.
Hatter.
you honestly don't see the dramatic shift in tone between that intro and rest of the albums mostly boo hoo old man rap?
What?!?!?! Stakes is like De La's second best record after De La Soul iz Dead. The production value alone makes it bananas. Long Island Degrees? Dinninit?
I can't agree with either Noz OR Vitamin here. I liked the album. Their four best but a distant fourth behind the first three LPs.
"Stakes" better than "3 Ft High" and "Buhloone"? Never that.
I'll always ride for this one. "Buhloone" and "...Is Dead," take billing above it, but I'd take it to my desert island before I brought "3 Ft."
that said - best intro that could have gone wrong but didn't: the intro to "Stakes Is High."
too bad about the rest of the album though.
Hatter.
you honestly don't see the dramatic shift in tone between that intro and rest of the albums mostly boo hoo old man rap?
What?!?!?! Stakes is like De La's second best record after De La Soul iz Dead. The production value alone makes it bananas. Long Island Degrees? Dinninit?
that said - best intro that could have gone wrong but didn't: the intro to "Stakes Is High."
too bad about the rest of the album though.
Hatter.
you honestly don't see the dramatic shift in tone between that intro and rest of the albums mostly boo hoo old man rap?
What?!?!?! Stakes is like De La's second best record after De La Soul iz Dead. The production value alone makes it bananas. Long Island Degrees? Dinninit?
I can't agree with either Noz OR Vitamin here. I liked the album. Their four best but a distant fourth behind the first three LPs.
"Stakes" better than "3 Ft High" and "Buhloone"? Never that.
I'll always ride for this one. "Buhloone" and "...Is Dead," take billing above it, but I'd take it to my desert island before I brought "3 Ft."
whaat? 3 ft high changed hip hop. its also a good listen 90% through. stakes is high was a good album, but they didnt take any risks. buhloone was slightly better than the dead album. i cant listen to either of those straight through anymore though.
that said - best intro that could have gone wrong but didn't: the intro to "Stakes Is High."
too bad about the rest of the album though.
Hatter.
you honestly don't see the dramatic shift in tone between that intro and rest of the albums mostly boo hoo old man rap?
What?!?!?! Stakes is like De La's second best record after De La Soul iz Dead. The production value alone makes it bananas. Long Island Degrees? Dinninit?
I can't agree with either Noz OR Vitamin here. I liked the album. Their four best but a distant fourth behind the first three LPs.
"Stakes" better than "3 Ft High" and "Buhloone"? Never that.
I'll always ride for this one. "Buhloone" and "...Is Dead," take billing above it, but I'd take it to my desert island before I brought "3 Ft."
whaat? 3 ft high changed hip hop. its also a good listen 90% through. stakes is high was a good album, but they didnt take any risks. buhloone was slightly better than the dead album. i cant listen to either of those straight through anymore though.
I agree that 3 ft. changed hip hop, but I have the same troubles listening to it that you seem to have with Buhloone and Is Dead... I like it, but a lot of it boarders on novelty. I mean, "Bit of Soap," is great buuuut....
There is a lot of music that was influential that I have but don't listen to as much as Stakes is High. Squeeking-era Coltrane comes to mind.
true. actually, i dont even think de la likes 3 ft high anymore. they hardly play any songs off that album at live shows, and when i saw them perform "me, myself and i" they added new lyrics about how tired they are of singing that song.
There is a lot of music that was influential that I have but don't listen to as much as Stakes is High. Squeeking-era Coltrane comes to mind.
The consensus on that era for Coltrane, from himself, his colleagues and critics, it that it was exploratory and transitional cut short by his death. So we do not really know what Coltrane was doing there. That said, it was/is not a terribly influential period for him.
It is safe to say that Coltrane was influential simply as John Coltrane at this point. But we will never know where he was going with this music. Plus, Sanders was really doing most of the squeaking. By the time Live in Japan came out, you can almost hear JC dying. It is pretty sad and intense.
Or we can talk about his influence as A&R for Impulse! during that later period?
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is that your pick, O, or are you merely directing us to "set it off"?!
but...i tend to skip "December 4th" of the Black Album. that said
is a pretty fresh line.
but his mom talking gets kinda annoying.
that's like song #10
but agreed, it's not a great song. and i am a witchdoctor fanboy.
haha...i was looking for a jpg. of the TTLab shirt to put in my post.
not sure i will ever understand why dude let his mom put him on blast like that.
I still listen to the Only Built 4 intro.
"let's do it!"
shit gets me amped everytime. the original Thug Motivation 101.
The difference is between intros which are just blah blah blah vs. something that actually resembles more of a song (which I think "the Ruler's Back" qualifies as).
that said - best intro that could have gone wrong but didn't: the intro to "Stakes Is High."
A weak song but that was the LAST song on "Breaking Atoms."
First song = "Snake Eyes" which was
too bad about the rest of the album though.
Hatter.
you honestly don't see the dramatic shift in tone between that intro and rest of the albums mostly boo hoo old man rap?
What?!?!?! Stakes is like De La's second best record after De La Soul iz Dead. The production value alone makes it bananas. Long Island Degrees? Dinninit?
I can't agree with either Noz OR Vitamin here. I liked the album. Their four best but a distant fourth behind the first three LPs.
"Stakes" better than "3 Ft High" and "Buhloone"? Never that.
I'll always ride for this one. "Buhloone" and "...Is Dead," take billing above it, but I'd take it to my desert island before I brought "3 Ft."
my fault, I was thinking first song like first single off the album... actually the remix for "Friendly Game of Baseball" was last on the cd...
Vinyl + cassette = no remix though. That's 2 outta 3.
Somehow, this doesn't surprise me...
whaat? 3 ft high changed hip hop. its also a good listen 90% through. stakes is high was a good album, but they didnt take any risks. buhloone was slightly better than the dead album. i cant listen to either of those straight through anymore though.
I agree that 3 ft. changed hip hop, but I have the same troubles listening to it that you seem to have with Buhloone and Is Dead... I like it, but a lot of it boarders on novelty. I mean, "Bit of Soap," is great buuuut....
There is a lot of music that was influential that I have but don't listen to as much as Stakes is High. Squeeking-era Coltrane comes to mind.
The consensus on that era for Coltrane, from himself, his colleagues and critics, it that it was exploratory and transitional cut short by his death. So we do not really know what Coltrane was doing there. That said, it was/is not a terribly influential period for him.
It is safe to say that Coltrane was influential simply as John Coltrane at this point. But we will never know where he was going with this music. Plus, Sanders was really doing most of the squeaking. By the time Live in Japan came out, you can almost hear JC dying. It is pretty sad and intense.
Or we can talk about his influence as A&R for Impulse! during that later period?