me too! "don't you feel like trying something newwwww"... i love that record! it makes me feel damn good when i hear it "we are steppin' ouuuuuut"... hell to the yeah
Exactly, and not to get all over analytical (too late!), but "Workin'onit" came on in the car today and you can hear it say "fade me" or whatever up until the very last time it runs through, then he did something to it to make it say "save me".
he didn't really do anything special to make it say "save me", it's just a different sample from the same song. 10cc. i had that damn record for eons and never would've thought of doing what dilla did with it he really didn't even do a whole lot to it IMO that's just how the record goes when you cut out all the wack singing parts feel me? so dope
Way to let me down, Phill. Way to let me down.
Speaking of samples, I need to know what "I Can't Stand To See You Cry" is from. Whatnauts? It sounds like something I already have. Same thing with "You're gonna Want Me Back". Can't place them but I know I've heard em somewhere.
Speaking of samples, I need to know what "I Can't Stand To See You Cry" is from. Whatnauts? It sounds like something I already have. Same thing with "You're gonna Want Me Back". Can't place them but I know I've heard em somewhere.
Dionne Warwick - You're Gonna Miss Me - from around '73, effectively an Invictus record on Warner...
just wanted to say I like Donuts. the bangers for me are: Workinonit Stop! Time: The Donut of the Heart Lightworks Two Can Win (!) Don't Cry Bye
the sample sources are hot too. and the technical aspect is sick. I agree that it is an inspirational album.
As far as the Madlib - Beat Konducta vol. 1-2 comparison, I think Donuts is stronger but they sorta work as complimentary pieces. favs from Movie Scenes: The Comeback (Madlib) The Paycheck (Gotta) (!) Third Ear (More) Pyramids (Change)
looking forward to hearing some of these originals too.
just wanted to say I like Donuts. the bangers for me are: Workinonit Stop! Time: The Donut of the Heart Lightworks Two Can Win (!) Don't Cry Bye
the sample sources are hot too. and the technical aspect is sick. I agree that it is an inspirational album.
As far as the Madlib - Beat Konducta vol. 1-2 comparison, I think Donuts is stronger but they sorta work as complimentary pieces. favs from Movie Scenes: The Comeback (Madlib) The Paycheck (Gotta) (!) Third Ear (More) Pyramids (Change)
looking forward to hearing some of these originals too.
and i guess madlib had something to do with the mix/mastering cus theres way too much compression for me.
Really?? You think Madlib's stuff is overcompressed?? I guess some of his more recent beat work for MCs like MED, Wildchild, Oh No, etc is pushing the needle kinda hot. But I always thought of him as more of a 'ah let's just use the beat tape version, sounds good enough. fuck mastering!' type of dude. I remember reading an interview with Peanut Butter Wolf where he was talking about how much trouble they had mixing and mastering the Further Adventures of Lord Quas because it was alll over the place sonically when Madlib gave it to the label.
yeah i do think his stuff is overcompressed, i think of him more of a 'ah let's just use the beat tape version, sounds good enough. fuck mastering! lets just put this massive compression over everything'
i dont actually think you know what you're talking about, but thats cool anyways.
To me, alot of madlib beats sound just sloppy, dilla records are kinda different though cause its ALL about the swing. Mabye this is that "trendy off beat shit" that you were reffering to. But dilla's drums epitomize the kind of live feeling im talking about in that other post. Not that everyone should just ape his style, but those little things that make producers mad often times make the record hot for everyone else.
To me, alot of madlib beats sound just sloppy, dilla records are kinda different though cause its ALL about the swing. Mabye this is that "trendy off beat shit" that you were reffering to. But dilla's drums epitomize the kind of live feeling im talking about in that other post. Not that everyone should just ape his style, but those little things that make producers mad often times make the record hot for everyone else.
Dilla's drums had more of a live feel owing to the slightly off mentality that he used when building tracks - as in a high hat that's just a second slower than a kick, mimicking the lapses a real drummer would do/execute - complemented by the use/chop of the full run of hits from a drum break versus just the 1st set encountered; Madlib's material just sounds sloppy overall - w/ little regard if any for swing and drums that neither snap nor hit, but come across as clumsy...
yeah i do think his stuff is overcompressed, i think of him more of a 'ah let's just use the beat tape version, sounds good enough. fuck mastering! lets just put this massive compression over everything'
i dont actually think you know what you're talking about, but thats cool anyways.
To me, alot of madlib beats sound just sloppy, dilla records are kinda different though cause its ALL about the swing. Mabye this is that "trendy off beat shit" that you were reffering to. But dilla's drums epitomize the kind of live feeling im talking about in that other post. Not that everyone should just ape his style, but those little things that make producers mad often times make the record hot for everyone else.
you got me wrong. i wasnt talking about dilla in that post, i was talking about madlibs stuff. i have to admit i dont exactly check for his stuff anymore, but back when i did most of his shit was mastered with heavy compression. i mean thats part of his style. it makes alot more sense on madlibs stuff than dilla if you ask me. i was just expecting dillas shit to hit a little harder like hes spoiled us with in the past. and yeah dillas shit is all about the swing, never claimed anything else. but i do think hes leaning to much towards a stressed groove on here, and it makes perfect sense. he was in alot of pain when he did this release, and you can feel it in the beats. if you think dillas that "trendy off beat shit" youre lucky, cus you've probably not heard whats going on in the underground right now.
Speaking of samples, I need to know what "I Can't Stand To See You Cry" is from. Whatnauts? It sounds like something I already have. Same thing with "You're gonna Want Me Back". Can't place them but I know I've heard em somewhere.
Dionne Warwick - You're Gonna Miss Me - from around '73, effectively an Invictus record on Warner...
the I Can't Stand To See You Cry that Dilla used is The Escorts, on Alitha. I forget the name of the record, my boy has it.
Speaking of samples, I need to know what "I Can't Stand To See You Cry" is from. Whatnauts? It sounds like something I already have. Same thing with "You're gonna Want Me Back". Can't place them but I know I've heard em somewhere.
Dionne Warwick - You're Gonna Miss Me - from around '73, effectively an Invictus record on Warner...
the I Can't Stand To See You Cry that Dilla used is The Escorts, on Alitha. I forget the name of the record, my boy has it.
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me too! "don't you feel like trying something newwwww"... i love that record! it makes me feel damn good when i hear it "we are steppin' ouuuuuut"... hell to the yeah
Way to let me down, Phill. Way to let me down.
Speaking of samples, I need to know what "I Can't Stand To See You Cry" is from. Whatnauts? It sounds like something I already have. Same thing with "You're gonna Want Me Back". Can't place them but I know I've heard em somewhere.
Dionne Warwick... as used by Ursher and Conspicous the Coroner
not the whatnauts... the escorts.
Dionne Warwick - You're Gonna Miss Me - from around '73, effectively an Invictus record on Warner...
the bangers for me are:
Workinonit
Stop!
Time: The Donut of the Heart
Lightworks
Two Can Win (!)
Don't Cry
Bye
the sample sources are hot too. and the technical aspect is sick.
I agree that it is an inspirational album.
As far as the Madlib - Beat Konducta vol. 1-2 comparison, I think Donuts is stronger but they sorta work as complimentary pieces.
favs from Movie Scenes:
The Comeback (Madlib)
The Paycheck (Gotta) (!)
Third Ear (More)
Pyramids (Change)
looking forward to hearing some of these originals too.
There you go -> http://www.laid-back.be/download/dabee.htm
Man I could just listen to this one on repeat all day.
i dont actually think you know what you're talking about, but thats cool anyways.
To me, alot of madlib beats sound just sloppy, dilla records are kinda different though cause its ALL about the swing. Mabye this is that "trendy off beat shit" that you were reffering to. But dilla's drums epitomize the kind of live feeling im talking about in that other post. Not that everyone should just ape his style, but those little things that make producers mad often times make the record hot for everyone else.
Dilla's drums had more of a live feel owing to the slightly off mentality that he used when building tracks - as in a high hat that's just a second slower than a kick, mimicking the lapses a real drummer would do/execute - complemented by the use/chop of the full run of hits from a drum break versus just the 1st set encountered; Madlib's material just sounds sloppy overall - w/ little regard if any for swing and drums that neither snap nor hit, but come across as clumsy...
you got me wrong. i wasnt talking about dilla in that post, i was talking about madlibs stuff. i have to admit i dont exactly check for his stuff anymore, but back when i did most of his shit was mastered with heavy compression. i mean thats part of his style. it makes alot more sense on madlibs stuff than dilla if you ask me. i was just expecting dillas shit to hit a little harder like hes spoiled us with in the past. and yeah dillas shit is all about the swing, never claimed anything else. but i do think hes leaning to much towards a stressed groove on here, and it makes perfect sense. he was in alot of pain when he did this release, and you can feel it in the beats. if you think dillas that "trendy off beat shit" youre lucky, cus you've probably not heard whats going on in the underground right now.
Thanks for posting this.
A little help with a bit of missing info:
Two unreleased beats : "You're The One For Me"
What's this from?
Beat CD # 3 (2005) - sporting the Marvelettes (the 'D' up in here)...
the I Can't Stand To See You Cry that Dilla used is The Escorts, on Alitha. I forget the name of the record, my boy has it.
"3 Down 4 To Go," as in "gettin' free, ya'll."