It's basically an eBay term and yes, it has nothing to do with where the records are from, but rather where they were played.
Pedantically speaking, Dave Godin coined the term in an article for UK periodical Blues & Soul in the early '70s; tend to have the impression that it was really mods in the north of England (Wigan Casino, Golden Torch in Stoke-on-Trent, etc.) that kept the so-called faith going whereas their southern brethren moved on, primarily either into then-fledgling psychedelia (and/or psychedelia-tinged pop/rock) or towards the Caribbean expatriate-influenced skinhead movement... Kev Roberts has been a central figure in it all, as a DJ as well as one of the principals behind the Goldmine record label...
I have a family friend who was one of the original 'northern soul' DJs from Manchester in the 60s and he'd never heard the term before. It's just soul to him. It's basically an eBay term and yes, it has nothing to do with where the records are from, but rather where they were played.
northern soul has nothing to do with ebay terms.. i swear some people.. they think nobody called a record northern soul, modern soul or italo until ebay stumbled along.. they've been calling that shit northern soul since the early 70's... dude may have been one of the original northern soul dj's but he musta been pretty out of it to have never heard the term.
from wiki "The phrase 'Northern Soul' was coined by journalist Dave Godin sometime around 1971 when writing his column in Blues and Soul magazine."
Don't ask - the big answer may kill ya dead... Rez
northern soul has nothing to do with ebay terms.. i swear some people..
Chill... see my previous post.
True... it didn't start as an eBay term, I was just commenting on what it's become. Not sure when it started, but I think it was more of a scene thing than a record thing. Hence the true meaning of the term.
Pedantically speaking, Dave Godin coined the term in an article for UK periodical Blues & Soul in the early '70s; tend to have the impression that it was really mods in the north of England (Wigan Casino, Golden Torch in Stoke-on-Trent, etc.) that kept the so-called faith going whereas their southern brethren moved on, primarily either into then-fledgling psychedelia (and/or psychedelia-tinged pop/rock) or towards the Caribbean expatriate-influenced skinhead movement... Kev Roberts has been a central figure in it all, as a DJ as well as one of the principals behind the Goldmine record label...
What about the drugs they did take at those parties in Northern England? I heard they messed with chemicals pretty hard.....
Well, being English and Northern, I can have a fairly good stab.
The "Northern Soul" was just like this forum, except every motherf*cker had to physically represent in some Northern Clubs and cop their "Raer" (The music being super-obscure contemporary black music from, well IMHO, 1965-1975?) audibly, or, if they were the DJ, bring their Raer with them and then offer anyone who dared ask what was playing a verbal . DJs would peel the labels off so no-one could see the artist/tune etc... Everyone wanted to be a DJ with the Raerest shchitt.
Well, being English and Northern, I can have a fairly good stab.
The "Northern Soul" was just like this forum, except every motherf*cker had to physically represent in some Northern Clubs and cop their "Raer" (The music being super-obscure contemporary black music from, well IMHO, 1965-1975?) audibly, or, if they were the DJ, bring their Raer with them and then offer anyone who dared ask what was playing a verbal . DJs would peel the labels off so no-one could see the artist/tune etc... Everyone wanted to be a DJ with the Raerest shchitt.
Sound familiar?
hell yeah...ey, you from notts? what's going on there? do the pbros. still exist?
dude may have been one of the original northern soul dj's but he musta been pretty out of it to have never heard the term.
Nah... so the term was coined in 1971. Dude was doing it prolly around 65-67. Then he moved to the states to be a sound man. And I meant he had never heard of records being called northern soul records. I'm not sure if he didn't know the scene was called that.
No more than anywhere else. Just keep away from the dickhead places and you'll be OK. Same as in any town, any country. Otherwise, a good place for a night out. Very integrated city. I've been here 9 years since moving from Manchester. At least no-one has pulled a gun out in front of me here...
No more than anywhere else. Just keep away from the dickhead places and you'll be OK. Same as in any town, any country. Otherwise, a good place for a night out. Very integrated city. I've been here 9 years since moving from Manchester. At least no-one has pulled a gun out in front of me here...
lol...no, i meant the productionduo dj ivory and paul s, who are from notts. but a few years ago they told me that it is indeed a pretty rough place...like Northern England can be sometime...
Yeah, there are a few acts here that I know put tunes out. West Bridgford Collective had a niice 12" if you like deep house, I often wondered who they were and if they drank in the same place I did? I used to hang with the bloke behind Schmooov - a great bass player called Andy who knew his jazz inside out too. Apparently Mr. Atjazz live up the road too...
Honestly since I got me the mortgage, wife and kids I don't get out enough to know the kids making the jams these days. Even Jaws couldn't get down with 3 barrels...
No more than anywhere else. Just keep away from the dickhead places and you'll be OK. Same as in any town, any country. Otherwise, a good place for a night out. Very integrated city. I've been here 9 years since moving from Manchester. At least no-one has pulled a gun out in front of me here...
lol...no, i meant the productionduo dj ivory and paul s, who are from notts. but a few years ago they told me that it is indeed a pretty rough place...like Northern England can be sometime...
english people always want to tell you where they're from is rough......
my experience is that serious violence, shootings n stuff, is WAY less common, but fistfights and bottles over heads are WAY more common...
Yeah, Ivory posts on vinylexchange.com once in a blue moon...
they're cool dudes, no question. good beats and proper knowledge.....they also told me that one of the first bboy crews that toured europe with rock steady back in 81 was from notts - rock city crew...brings us back to the topic of this thread, northeners seem to know their ish
english people always want to tell you where they're from is rough......
my experience is that serious violence, shootings n stuff, is WAY less common, but fistfights and bottles over heads are WAY more common...
when i was in notts a few years ago, i got the impression that it was a pretty rough city. at least the buildings and the people seemed rough. but it was in the winter, so it was also somehow depressing. but rich in history nonetheless....
Perhaps it was a question that coulda been self-researched, no one would really argue that point. But perhaps also people feel like they have joined a "community" and wanted to take advantage of that fact and get real, fleshed-out descriptions from people who might be even more expert on the topic than the cat who wrote the wikipedia description.
It takes a special type of ag individual to a) get upset that someone would "dare" to post such a basic question and b) type a cynical response to the question asker. Just seems like unnecesary negative energy. "Man, that lil' dude is so lil' dude, I sure showed him."
I agree that helpful and thorough answers to even the most naive questions tend to foster a spirit of community (notice that I do not place that word in quotation marks), although if every naive question were to get a thorough response, eventually the sense of community would be undermined because people who have made few or no contributions would be able to access all the information they want without any meaningful interaction with the other members of the community. Looking in obvious places for answers to questions before making them one of your first posts on a message board will help everyone to gain the respect of other members of this community. You don't become a valued member of this community by registering your login name.
Each of us are judged by the quality of our contributions.
i saw a cool short film about northern soul scene a while ago on IFC. can't remember the name of it but the music they played in it made me realize i like northern soul.
Perhaps it was a question that coulda been self-researched, no one would really argue that point. But perhaps also people feel like they have joined a "community" and wanted to take advantage of that fact and get real, fleshed-out descriptions from people who might be even more expert on the topic than the cat who wrote the wikipedia description.
It takes a special type of ag individual to a) get upset that someone would "dare" to post such a basic question and b) type a cynical response to the question asker. Just seems like unnecesary negative energy. "Man, that lil' dude is so lil' dude, I sure showed him."
I agree that helpful and thorough answers to even the most naive questions tend to foster a spirit of community (notice that I do not place that word in quotation marks), although if every naive question were to get a thorough response, eventually the sense of community would be undermined because people who have made few or no contributions would be able to access all the information they want without any meaningful interaction with the other members of the community. Looking in obvious places for answers to questions before making them one of your first posts on a message board will help everyone to gain the respect of other members of this community. You don't become a valued member of this community by registering your login name.
Each of us are judged by the quality of our contributions.
Think before you post, JRoot
Had some of the prior responses been as respectful and thoughtful as yours, I wouldn't have bothered to post what I did.
type a cynical response to the question asker. Just seems like unnecesary negative energy. "Man, that lil' dude is so lil' dude, I sure showed him."
Dude, you obviously don't know what the Strut is all about. This is like Rule #1 of the Special Friends Club
It's just that a little more research on the topic beforehand could have made for a better discussion over all. Rather than just discussing "what is northern soul" we could have been talking about more interesting aspects of the genre and its history.
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Pedantically speaking, Dave Godin coined the term in an article for UK periodical Blues & Soul in the early '70s; tend to have the impression that it was really mods in the north of England (Wigan Casino, Golden Torch in Stoke-on-Trent, etc.) that kept the so-called faith going whereas their southern brethren moved on, primarily either into then-fledgling psychedelia (and/or psychedelia-tinged pop/rock) or towards the Caribbean expatriate-influenced skinhead movement... Kev Roberts has been a central figure in it all, as a DJ as well as one of the principals behind the Goldmine record label...
That one got me right there!
Don't ask - the big answer may kill ya dead...
Rez
APACHIATE BATCHES!!!!![/b]
Chill... see my previous post.
What about the drugs they did take at those parties in Northern England? I heard they messed with chemicals pretty hard.....
The "Northern Soul" was just like this forum, except every motherf*cker had to physically represent in some Northern Clubs and cop their "Raer" (The music being super-obscure contemporary black music from, well IMHO, 1965-1975?) audibly, or, if they were the DJ, bring their Raer with them and then offer anyone who dared ask what was playing a verbal
Sound familiar?
hell yeah...ey, you from notts? what's going on there? do the pbros. still exist?
From the accounts I've read/etc., a lot of those all-nighters were pretty much speed-fuelled, leading Godin also to coin amphetasoul...
Nah... so the term was coined in 1971. Dude was doing it prolly around 65-67. Then he moved to the states to be a sound man. And I meant he had never heard of records being called northern soul records. I'm not sure if he didn't know the scene was called that.
Alright, I'm officially done with this post.
DJ Ferrari
No more than anywhere else. Just keep away from the dickhead places and you'll be OK. Same as in any town, any country. Otherwise, a good place for a night out. Very integrated city. I've been here 9 years since moving from Manchester. At least no-one has pulled a gun out in front of me here...
Not even the pbros?
lol...no, i meant the productionduo dj ivory and paul s, who are from notts. but a few years ago they told me that it is indeed a pretty rough place...like Northern England can be sometime...
Honestly since I got me the mortgage, wife and kids I don't get out enough to know the kids making the jams these days. Even Jaws couldn't get down with 3 barrels...
Yeah, Ivory posts on vinylexchange.com once in a blue moon...
english people always want to tell you where they're from is rough......
my experience is that serious violence, shootings n stuff, is WAY less common, but fistfights and bottles over heads are WAY more common...
they're cool dudes, no question. good beats and proper knowledge.....they also told me that one of the first bboy crews that toured europe with rock steady back in 81 was from notts - rock city crew...brings us back to the topic of this thread, northeners seem to know their ish
when i was in notts a few years ago, i got the impression that it was a pretty rough city. at least the buildings and the people seemed rough. but it was in the winter, so it was also somehow depressing. but rich in history nonetheless....
I agree that helpful and thorough answers to even the most naive questions tend to foster a spirit of community (notice that I do not place that word in quotation marks), although if every naive question were to get a thorough response, eventually the sense of community would be undermined because people who have made few or no contributions would be able to access all the information they want without any meaningful interaction with the other members of the community. Looking in obvious places for answers to questions before making them one of your first posts on a message board will help everyone to gain the respect of other members of this community. You don't become a valued member of this community by registering your login name.
Each of us are judged by the quality of our contributions.
Think before you post,
JRoot
dave
But out of tune
Had some of the prior responses been as respectful and thoughtful as yours, I wouldn't have bothered to post what I did.
Respek'
Non-valued community member,
Gene P
That's deep. Must be a wise woman.