See, 3rdstream, here's where you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. Accepting a contribution from a lobbyist in return for legislative favors is illegal. Democrats accepted ZERO DOLLARS from Abramoff. Democrats are in no position to sell favors, since they are not in power/cannot influence legislation. Abramoff is a hardcore conservative who has been operaterating a slush fund for republicans for the last five years. You swallowed the RNC talking point hook, line and sinker. This is a Republican scandal through and through. Show me otherwise. Please. Give me anything. Anything. And don't say "democrats took money too." That's ign'ant. Accepting a contribution from a constituent is not illegal.
ok, lets take reid for example, he has recieved about $60,000 in the last 4 years from indians, he is on the indian affairs committee, this money came from coushattas indians, hmmmmm, the coushattas were clinets of Abramoff, while Abramoff did not give the money directly to Reid what looks bad is the fact that Durbin has given the money away to charities but Reid... "feels that Abramoff was a Republican operative, and this is a Republican scandal," said Reid's spokesman, Jim Manley. "He's done nothing improper." "
"looks bad"? that's the best you can do?
tepid...
please point to a Democrat under investigation in this matter.
Senator Max Baucus (D-MT), who received at least $22,500 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN), who received at least $6,500 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Joseph Biden (D-DE), who received at least $1,250 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Jeff Bingaman (D-NM), who received at least $2,000 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA), who received at least $20,250 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA), who received at least $21,765 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Tom Carper (D-DE), who received at least $7,500 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY), who received at least $12,950 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND), who received at least $8,000 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Jon Corzine (D-NJ), who received at least $7,500 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT), who received at least $14,792 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Byron Dorgan (D-ND), who received at least $79,300 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL), who received at least $14,000 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), who received at least $2,000 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI), who received at least $1,250 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA), who received at least $45,750 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Daniel Inouye (D-HI), who received at least $9,000 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Jim Jeffords (I-VT), who received at least $2,000 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Tim Johnson (D-SD), who received at least $14,250 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA), who received at least $3,300 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator John Kerry (D-MA), who received at least $98,550 in Abramoff-linked cash.[/b] Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA), who received at least $28,000 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Pat Leahy (D-VT), who received at least $4,000 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Carl Levin (D-MI), who received at least $6,000 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT), who received at least $29,830 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) Received At Least $14,891 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD), who received at least $10,550 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Patty Murray (D-WA), who received at least $78,991 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL), who received at least $20,168 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE) Received At Least $5,200 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL), who received at least $7,500 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR), who received at least $2,300 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Jack Reed (D-RI), who received at least $3,500 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Harry Reid (D-NV), who received at least $68,941 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator John Rockefeller (D-WV), who received at least $4,000 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Ken Salazar (D-CO), who received at least $4,500 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Paul Sarbanes (D-MD), who received at least $4,300 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY), who received at least $29,550 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Debbie Stabenow (D-MI), who received at least $6,250 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR), who received at least $6,250 in Abramoff-linked cash.
The only answer is VERTICAL politics.....instead of spending all your time pointing at the other side, blaming one of the two scumbag gangs, point upwards towards the political leaders [color:red]and corporate oligarchy[/b] [/color] who have created this mess ON BOTH SIDES.
Overall I firmly believe with what was stated here but the politicians on both sides are really only a smokescreen and subset of the larger ruling party which consists of the tiny majority of the population who hold all the wealth and power.
Unfortunately in this day and age, politicians cannot get elected without money. Money owns the media. Money protects itself...
Money is pretty smart about this process. It gives the masses just enough comfort to keep them from doing anything drastic enough to change their lives or this country's direction. Big Macs, hypnotic TV and cheap electronics - everyone can own their own cardboard version of "The Dream".
Senator Max Baucus (D-MT), who received at least $22,500 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN), who received at least $6,500 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Joseph Biden (D-DE), who received at least $1,250 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Jeff Bingaman (D-NM), who received at least $2,000 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA), who received at least $20,250 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA), who received at least $21,765 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Tom Carper (D-DE), who received at least $7,500 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY), who received at least $12,950 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND), who received at least $8,000 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Jon Corzine (D-NJ), who received at least $7,500 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT), who received at least $14,792 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Byron Dorgan (D-ND), who received at least $79,300 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL), who received at least $14,000 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), who received at least $2,000 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI), who received at least $1,250 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA), who received at least $45,750 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Daniel Inouye (D-HI), who received at least $9,000 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Jim Jeffords (I-VT), who received at least $2,000 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Tim Johnson (D-SD), who received at least $14,250 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA), who received at least $3,300 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator John Kerry (D-MA), who received at least $98,550 in Abramoff-linked cash.[/b] Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA), who received at least $28,000 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Pat Leahy (D-VT), who received at least $4,000 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Carl Levin (D-MI), who received at least $6,000 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT), who received at least $29,830 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) Received At Least $14,891 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD), who received at least $10,550 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Patty Murray (D-WA), who received at least $78,991 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL), who received at least $20,168 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE) Received At Least $5,200 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL), who received at least $7,500 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR), who received at least $2,300 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Jack Reed (D-RI), who received at least $3,500 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Harry Reid (D-NV), who received at least $68,941 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator John Rockefeller (D-WV), who received at least $4,000 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Ken Salazar (D-CO), who received at least $4,500 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Paul Sarbanes (D-MD), who received at least $4,300 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY), who received at least $29,550 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Debbie Stabenow (D-MI), who received at least $6,250 in Abramoff-linked cash. Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR), who received at least $6,250 in Abramoff-linked cash.
What does this prove? The "Abramoff scandal" is, among other things, about money that was given to his lobbying group for one purpose and handed to the republicans for another. Where is your proof that any of these contributions was not intended to be given to these democrats? Until you have something to add....
Also, just to clear up a common misconception. Abramoff has contributed tons of money to Republican Campaigns - including money that he stole from his clients. However, he has not contributed ANY money to democrats. Only his clients have contributed money to democratic campaigns, but this is of course, entirely legal.
It gives the masses just enough comfort to keep them from doing anything drastic enough to change their lives or this country's direction.
It gives the masses just enough comfort to keep them from doing anything drastic enough to change their lives or this country's direction.
It gives the masses just enough comfort to keep them from doing anything drastic enough to change their lives or this country's direction.
We are all guilty of this. Who here hasn't sold out yet? I could name maybe 3 people, 2 of them are school teachers.
Vote with your wallets people. Yes, you, you latte sippin lurkers.
Sabadabada is a digital Brownshirt. I'd love to meet him in person.
I totally agree - Myself included!
The problem is that it is systemic. Take Wal-Mart for example. They are almost totally unchecked and out-of-control. Personally I don't shop there but I also realize that families with less money than me often have to. Of course, it is the Wal-Mart McJobification of American workers that causes these families to have less spending money in the first place. How do you get everyone to agree to want less stuff and to be willing to pay a bit more for what they purchase so that (hopefully) everyone's group purchasing decisions raise everyone up? I just don't see it happening. It seems so fucking depressing at times...
Also, just to clear up a common misconception. Abramoff has contributed tons of money to Republican Campaigns - including money that he stole from his clients. However, he has not contributed ANY money to democrats. Only his clients have contributed money to democratic campaigns, but this is of course, entirely legal.
Get your facts right.
Here, this is from the Washington Post, not exactly a cato institute rag. I mean, really, what do you need? A notorized receipt?
Democrats Also Got Tribal Donations Abramoff Issue's Fallout May Extend Beyond the GOP
By Jeffrey H. Birnbaum and Derek Willis Washington Post Staff Writers Friday, June 3, 2005; Page A01
Lobbyist Jack Abramoff and an associate famously collected $82 million in lobbying and public relations fees from six Indian tribes and devoted a lot of their time to trying to persuade Republican lawmakers to act on their clients' behalf.
But Abramoff didn't work just with Republicans. He oversaw a team of two dozen lobbyists at the law firm Greenberg Traurig that included many Democrats. Moreover, the campaign contributions that Abramoff directed from the tribes went to Democratic as well as Republican legislators.
How do you get everyone to agree to want less stuff and to be willing to pay a bit more for what they purchase so that (hopefully) everyone's group purchasing decisions raise everyone up?
calling them stupid seems to be the game plan right now
See, 3rdstream, here's where you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.
ok, lets take reid for example, he has recieved about $60,000 in the last 4 years from indians, he is on the indian affairs committee, this money came from coushattas indians, hmmmmm, the coushattas were clinets of Abramoff, while Abramoff did not give the money directly to Reid what looks bad is the fact that Durbin has given the money away to charities but Reid... "feels that Abramoff was a Republican operative, and this is a Republican scandal," said Reid's spokesman, Jim Manley. "He's done nothing improper." "
See, 3rdstream, here's where you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.
The Indians were ALREADY giving money to democrats before Abramoff came into the picture and connived them into giving money to republicans.
peep this:
American Prospect hires private firm to analyze the Abramoff issue.
The analysis, which was commissioned by The American Prospect and completed on Jan. 25, was done by Dwight L. Morris and Associates, a for-profit firm specializing in campaign finance that has done research for many media outlets.
The analysis shows: # in total, the donations of Abramoff's tribal clients to Democrats dropped by nine percent after they hired him, while their donations to Republicans more than doubled, increasing by 135 percent after they signed him up; # five out of seven of Abramoff's tribal clients vastly favored Republican candidates over Democratic ones; # four of the seven began giving substantially more to Republicans than Democrats after he took them on; # Abramoff's clients gave well over twice as much to Republicans than Democrats, while tribes not affiliated with Abramoff gave well over twice as much to Democrats than the GOP -- exactly the reverse pattern.
"It's very hard to see the donations of Abramoff's clients as a bipartisan greasing of the wheels," Morris, the firm's founder and a former investigations editor at the Los Angeles Times, told The Prospect. "If you're going to make the case that this is a bipartisan scandal, you have to really stretch the imagination," says Morris. "Most individual tribes were predominantly Democratic givers through the last decade. Only Abramoff's clients switched dramatically from largely Democratic to overwhelmingly Republican donors, and that happened only after he got his hands on them."
ok you & deepstank win, dems did not take money directly from abramoff, they took it through indians and others, if you dont have a problem with that than ok carry on
Sabadabada is a digital Brownshirt. I'd love to meet him in person.
wait, im the brown shirt, but you want to meet me so you could, what? assault me for my point of view?
that's so perfect.
Power struggle. I'd only end up accidentally spilling my beer on your raers. The rest would be up to you, you little shit.
PS: do you really think it's so next level being a cheerleader for the power elite? You really think so? Go practice your high kicks because you're gonna need that skill soon.
How do you get everyone to agree to want less stuff and to be willing to pay a bit more for what they purchase so that (hopefully) everyone's group purchasing decisions raise everyone up?
calling them stupid seems to be the game plan right now
why is the responsiblity of my "purchasing decisions" to raise people up?
Sabadabada is a digital Brownshirt. I'd love to meet him in person.
wait, im the brown shirt, but you want to meet me so you could, what? assault me for my point of view?
that's so perfect.
Power struggle. I'd only end up accidentally spilling my beer on your raers. The rest would be up to you, you little shit.
PS: do you really think it's so next level being a cheerleader for the power elite? You really think so? Go practice your high kicks because you're gonna need that skill soon.
why don't you go read a book and try to learn something.
How do you get everyone to agree to want less stuff and to be willing to pay a bit more for what they purchase so that (hopefully) everyone's group purchasing decisions raise everyone up?
calling them stupid seems to be the game plan right now
why is the responsiblity of my "purchasing decisions" to raise people up?
It's not necessarily... Everyone inherently has the freedom to do whatever they want. All I was saying is that there are always consequences from the aggregate decisions all of us make. I bought an IPOD, I watch me some mindless TV, but I don't shop at Wal-Mart. We all got to draw our own lines to follow.
Also, just to clear up a common misconception. Abramoff has contributed tons of money to Republican Campaigns - including money that he stole from his clients. However, he has not contributed ANY money to democrats. Only his clients have contributed money to democratic campaigns, but this is of course, entirely legal.
Get your facts right.
Here, this is from the Washington Post, not exactly a cato institute rag. I mean, really, what do you need? A notorized receipt?
Democrats Also Got Tribal Donations Abramoff Issue's Fallout May Extend Beyond the GOP
By Jeffrey H. Birnbaum and Derek Willis Washington Post Staff Writers Friday, June 3, 2005; Page A01
Lobbyist Jack Abramoff and an associate famously collected $82 million in lobbying and public relations fees from six Indian tribes and devoted a lot of their time to trying to persuade Republican lawmakers to act on their clients' behalf.
But Abramoff didn't work just with Republicans. He oversaw a team of two dozen lobbyists at the law firm Greenberg Traurig that included many Democrats. Moreover, the campaign contributions that Abramoff directed from the tribes went to Democratic as well as Republican legislators.
Damn dude, learn how to read.
the campaign contributions that Abramoff directed from the tribes
THIS IS MONEY FROM HIS CLIENTS. As I already pointed out (with statistics), the Indian Tribes were already giving money to Democrats, much more so than to republicans before Abramoff got involved. It is no crime for constituents to donate money to campaigns. The whole scandal, which you seem to not-get, is that Abramoff was taking money that was meant for one purpose and funneling it to republicans.
Sabadabada is a digital Brownshirt. I'd love to meet him in person.
wait, im the brown shirt, but you want to meet me so you could, what? assault me for my point of view?
that's so perfect.
Power struggle. I'd only end up accidentally spilling my beer on your raers. The rest would be up to you, you little shit.
PS: do you really think it's so next level being a cheerleader for the power elite? You really think so? Go practice your high kicks because you're gonna need that skill soon.
why don't you go read a book and try to learn something.
Are you trying to test my mental? Hahaha. Toy. You'd think you'd have honed your debating skills from being around all those high powered liberal lawyers all day. No dice. All we get here is your petty-minded bullshit.
See, 3rdstream, here's where you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.
ok you & deepstank win, dems did not take money directly from abramoff, they took it through indians and others, if you dont have a problem with that than ok carry on
I am starting to understand how Bush still has supporters. Is your point here that it is wrong for democrats to accept contributions from constituents who willingly, and under no false pretexts, wish to donate to them??? Stop trying to make a point when you obviously don't have one.
Sabadabada is a digital Brownshirt. I'd love to meet him in person.
wait, im the brown shirt, but you want to meet me so you could, what? assault me for my point of view?
that's so perfect.
Power struggle. I'd only end up accidentally spilling my beer on your raers. The rest would be up to you, you little shit.
PS: do you really think it's so next level being a cheerleader for the power elite? You really think so? Go practice your high kicks because you're gonna need that skill soon.
why don't you go read a book and try to learn something.
Are you trying to test my mental? Hahaha. Toy. You'd think you'd have honed your debating skills from being around all those high powered liberal lawyers all day. No dice. All we get here is your petty-minded bullshit.
:walk:
i think its test ones "mettle" not mental, although, in your case, that may be more appropriate.
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"looks bad"? that's the best you can do?
tepid...
please point to a Democrat under investigation in this matter.
Thanks to KeithVanHorn for the ally-oop.
Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN), who received at least $6,500 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Joseph Biden (D-DE), who received at least $1,250 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Jeff Bingaman (D-NM), who received at least $2,000 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA), who received at least $20,250 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA), who received at least $21,765 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Tom Carper (D-DE), who received at least $7,500 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY), who received at least $12,950 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND), who received at least $8,000 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Jon Corzine (D-NJ), who received at least $7,500 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT), who received at least $14,792 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Byron Dorgan (D-ND), who received at least $79,300 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL), who received at least $14,000 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), who received at least $2,000 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI), who received at least $1,250 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA), who received at least $45,750 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Daniel Inouye (D-HI), who received at least $9,000 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Jim Jeffords (I-VT), who received at least $2,000 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Tim Johnson (D-SD), who received at least $14,250 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA), who received at least $3,300 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator John Kerry (D-MA), who received at least $98,550 in Abramoff-linked cash.[/b]
Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA), who received at least $28,000 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Pat Leahy (D-VT), who received at least $4,000 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Carl Levin (D-MI), who received at least $6,000 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT), who received at least $29,830 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) Received At Least $14,891 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD), who received at least $10,550 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Patty Murray (D-WA), who received at least $78,991 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL), who received at least $20,168 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE) Received At Least $5,200 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Barack Obama (D-IL), who received at least $7,500 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR), who received at least $2,300 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Jack Reed (D-RI), who received at least $3,500 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Harry Reid (D-NV), who received at least $68,941 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator John Rockefeller (D-WV), who received at least $4,000 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Ken Salazar (D-CO), who received at least $4,500 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Paul Sarbanes (D-MD), who received at least $4,300 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY), who received at least $29,550 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Debbie Stabenow (D-MI), who received at least $6,250 in Abramoff-linked cash.
Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR), who received at least $6,250 in Abramoff-linked cash.
cite your source
well, that would all depend on what the meaning of "is" is.
ad absurdum
once again
Where the fuck is this all gonna end?
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raising the level of discourse once again.
Nenewsmax.com
Solid!
Their editor. http://www.newsmax.com/pundits/bios/Ruddy-bio.shtml
See. That's all these peole can do.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/6/100900.shtml
Overall I firmly believe with what was stated here but the politicians on both sides are really only a smokescreen and subset of the larger ruling party which consists of the tiny majority of the population who hold all the wealth and power.
Unfortunately in this day and age, politicians cannot get elected without money.
Money owns the media.
Money protects itself...
Money is pretty smart about this process.
It gives the masses just enough comfort to keep them from doing anything drastic enough to change their lives or this country's direction. Big Macs, hypnotic TV and cheap electronics - everyone can own their own cardboard version of "The Dream".
good work. i retract everything. Harry Reid and John Kerry have ruined this country. They should be executed.
I just send $1000 to the Abramoff defense fund.
i think they only take paypal.
We are all guilty of this. Who here hasn't sold out yet? I could name maybe 3 people, 2 of them are school teachers.
Vote with your wallets people. Yes, you, you latte sippin lurkers.
Sabadabada is a digital Brownshirt. I'd love to meet him in person.
What does this prove? The "Abramoff scandal" is, among other things, about money that was given to his lobbying group for one purpose and handed to the republicans for another. Where is your proof that any of these contributions was not intended to be given to these democrats? Until you have something to add....
wait, im the brown shirt, but you want to meet me so you could, what? assault me for my point of view?
that's so perfect.
Get your facts right.
I totally agree - Myself included!
The problem is that it is systemic.
Take Wal-Mart for example.
They are almost totally unchecked and out-of-control.
Personally I don't shop there but I also realize that families with less money than me often have to. Of course, it is the Wal-Mart McJobification of American workers that causes these families to have less spending money in the first place. How do you get everyone to agree to want less stuff and to be willing to pay a bit more for what they purchase so that (hopefully) everyone's group purchasing decisions raise everyone up? I just don't see it happening. It seems so fucking depressing at times...
Here, this is from the Washington Post, not exactly a cato institute rag. I mean, really, what do you need? A notorized receipt?
Democrats Also Got Tribal Donations
Abramoff Issue's Fallout May Extend Beyond the GOP
By Jeffrey H. Birnbaum and Derek Willis
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, June 3, 2005; Page A01
Lobbyist Jack Abramoff and an associate famously collected $82 million in lobbying and public relations fees from six Indian tribes and devoted a lot of their time to trying to persuade Republican lawmakers to act on their clients' behalf.
But Abramoff didn't work just with Republicans. He oversaw a team of two dozen lobbyists at the law firm Greenberg Traurig that included many Democrats. Moreover, the campaign contributions that Abramoff directed from the tribes went to Democratic as well as Republican legislators.
calling them stupid seems to be the game plan right now
ok you & deepstank win, dems did not take money directly from abramoff, they took it through indians and others, if you dont have a problem with that than ok carry on
Power struggle. I'd only end up accidentally spilling my beer on your raers. The rest would be up to you, you little shit.
PS: do you really think it's so next level being a cheerleader for the power elite? You really think so? Go practice your high kicks because you're gonna need that skill soon.
why is the responsiblity of my "purchasing decisions" to raise people up?
why don't you go read a book and try to learn something.
It's not necessarily...
Everyone inherently has the freedom to do whatever they want.
All I was saying is that there are always consequences from the aggregate decisions all of us make.
I bought an IPOD, I watch me some mindless TV, but I don't shop at Wal-Mart.
We all got to draw our own lines to follow.
Damn dude, learn how to read.
THIS IS MONEY FROM HIS CLIENTS. As I already pointed out (with statistics), the Indian Tribes were already giving money to Democrats, much more so than to republicans before Abramoff got involved. It is no crime for constituents to donate money to campaigns. The whole scandal, which you seem to not-get, is that Abramoff was taking money that was meant for one purpose and funneling it to republicans.
Are you trying to test my mental? Hahaha. Toy. You'd think you'd have honed your debating skills from being around all those high powered liberal lawyers all day. No dice. All we get here is your petty-minded bullshit.
:walk:
i think its test ones "mettle" not mental, although, in your case, that may be more appropriate.