can you post the concious, soulful Trick Daddy tracks please?
[Trick Daddy] Here go one for, all these killings and all these conflicts in religion See the Muslims, Jews and Christians but know they are all God's children There's only, one him, plus ain't none of y'all confronting him So blind in our own minds we wouldn't even know God if 'we was in front him' And, I read your books know all your remixes to the Bible What about a verse for the thugs, a cure for drugs and survival Let's add some chapters nameed Martin, Malcolm and Farrakhan In all my history books, only one died was the Americans And, that's point of my, who's responsible for Vietnam And, hold on there's more, we had two World Wars And, how come the judges make more than the teachers is making When they the ones raising all the taxes and got us fighting for education Life is crazy ain't it
[Chorus] So many tears, through out the years Somebody tell me what's going on And so many lives, but only God knows About the pain deep inside It gets so hard, you got to keep your head up I know you're fed up, but stay strong Here's a message from coast to coast Cause when them thugs really need it the most, thug holiday
A couple songs or a few verses & a guy become concious & soulful?
I'm not hatting - trick daddy is dope, but I can't pretend he's a philosopher/teacher/activist in the grand tradition of rappers like KRS ONE or Chuck D.
Again.
For those of you that missed it the first time.
The point is not that Trick is KRS-ONE '06 with a grill.
The point is that he is a multidimensional artist with a substantial amount of conscious content.
He is not a "caricature" and he is not a "minstrel"
And one more thing: he is soulful in pretty much everything he addresses, including h**s and skeezers.
do you listen to music or do you skim through it??
i gave three great examples of "conscious" southern rap earlier in the thread , but you don't hear me.
I hear you, but y'all act as if music from that region does not talk and glamourize the things I brought up too.
I already said that you guys proved to me that some of these rappers are including a thought provoking track or two on their albums, but no one has addressed whether those tracks described are the exception or the rule (except for faux who gave more of "I don't need to answer that question" type resonse).
That aside, I am not on "the southern rap tip"--I like rap from all over.
However, I do object to people that either denigrate southern rap (which Guzzo has been doing throughout this thread) or seek to minimize it (which I took your earlier post equating giants like 'Face and Triple Six with footnotes like "MF, Anticon, Rawkus, Def Jux and some ol' PB shit" to be an example of, whether or not you intended it that way).
If you're that interested in what I do like, I think I was pretty active in the "Top Albums of '05" thread from a month or two back, which should still be around.
Aha. Yeah, wasn't trying to minimize Southern hiphop at all by saying it sits on my shelf next to the *footnotes* section. I've stated love for the South several times but yet a statement like that gets taken as "minimizing" Southern hiphop? Apparently one can either think that indie shit is either "godhead" or a "footnote"....no middle ground. Perplexing. Man, I've lived my whole life in Louisiana and Texas (save a two year stint in New Jerus), I love Southern hiphop and hope the genre and artists get all the shine they can. But I don't think to myself I'm listening to a "giant" when I give "Da Unbreakables" a spin and a "footnote" when I decide I want to listen o cLOUDDEAD. Shit's just good music to me. I don't strive for the ultimate stratification of all artists in their rightful place.
Again, excuse my wordings. I meant "the Southern rap tip" merely to mean schitt that FR *doesn't* hate. I mean, I've read yr title, I see what the deal is. It's just w/out any sort of context, it makes it hard to decipher how much of yr posts are coming from behind a veil of sarcasm. Will do the knowledge you recommended.
I thought Noz' example/point w/r/t to the lasting imprints of Goodie MOB v. Rawkus to be valid and well-put. I could listen to "Soul Food" and "Funcrusher Plus" consecutively though and be just as pleased w/ each. Hey, I'll spare you the response though, that's on me right?
That aside, I am not on "the southern rap tip"--I like rap from all over.
However, I do object to people that either denigrate southern rap (which Guzzo has been doing throughout this thread) or seek to minimize it (which I took your earlier post equating giants like 'Face and Triple Six with footnotes like "MF, Anticon, Rawkus, Def Jux and some ol' PB shit" to be an example of, whether or not you intended it that way).
If you're that interested in what I do like, I think I was pretty active in the "Top Albums of '05" thread from a month or two back, which should still be around.
Aha. Yeah, wasn't trying to minimize Southern hiphop at all by saying it sits on my shelf next to the *footnotes* section. I've stated love for the South several times but yet a statement like that gets taken as "minimizing" Southern hiphop? Apparently one can either think that indie shit is either "godhead" or a "footnote"....no middle ground. Perplexing. Man, I've lived my whole life in Louisiana and Texas (save a two year stint in New Jerus), I love Southern hiphop and hope the genre and artists get all the shine they can. But I don't think to myself I'm listening to a "giant" when I give "Da Unbreakables" a spin and a "footnote" when I decide I want to listen o cLOUDDEAD. Shit's just good music to me. I don't strive for the ultimate stratification of all artists in their rightful place.
Again, excuse my wordings. I meant "the Southern rap tip" merely to mean schitt that FR *doesn't* hate. I mean, I've read yr title, I see what the deal is. It's just w/out any sort of context, it makes it hard to decipher how much of yr posts are coming from behind a veil of sarcasm. Will do the knowledge you recommended.
I thought Noz' example/point w/r/t to the lasting imprints of Goodie MOB v. Rawkus to be valid and well-put. I could listen to "Soul Food" and "Funcrusher Plus" consecutively though and be just as pleased w/ each. Hey, I'll spare you the response though, that's on me right?
[Trick Daddy] Here go one for, all these killings and all these conflicts in religion See the Muslims, Jews and Christians but know they are all God's children There's only, one him, plus ain't none of y'all confronting him So blind in our own minds we wouldn't even know God if 'we was in front him' And, I read your books know all your remixes to the Bible What about a verse for the thugs, a cure for drugs and survival Let's add some chapters nameed Martin, Malcolm and Farrakhan In all my history books, only one died was the Americans And, that's point of my, who's responsible for Vietnam And, hold on there's more, we had two World Wars And, how come the judges make more than the teachers is making When they the ones raising all the taxes and got us fighting for education Life is crazy ain't it
[Chorus] So many tears, through out the years Somebody tell me what's going on And so many lives, but only God knows About the pain deep inside It gets so hard, you got to keep your head up I know you're fed up, but stay strong Here's a message from coast to coast Cause when them thugs really need it the most, thug holiday
C'mon, these lyrics are terrible ! Don't tell me you consider that to be "some of the most soulful, thoughtful and, yes, "conscious" hip-hop ever recorded."
If that was a verse from Common's album you would have shitted on it.
C'mon, these lyrics are terrible ! Don't tell me you consider that to be "some of the most soulful, thoughtful and, yes, "conscious" hip-hop ever recorded."
If that was a verse from Common's album you would have shitted on it.
Ever recorded??? who said that?
he condescendingly asked for a concious trick daddy song. and he got what he asked for and condescendingly agreed to that.
I never said anything in addition to that or it being the best blah blah.
to be honest, it's one of my least favorite trick daddy songs. but those weren't the requirements set forth ..
[Trick Daddy] Here go one for, all these killings and all these conflicts in religion See the Muslims, Jews and Christians but know they are all God's children There's only, one him, plus ain't none of y'all confronting him So blind in our own minds we wouldn't even know God if 'we was in front him' And, I read your books know all your remixes to the Bible What about a verse for the thugs, a cure for drugs and survival Let's add some chapters nameed Martin, Malcolm and Farrakhan In all my history books, only one died was the Americans And, that's point of my, who's responsible for Vietnam And, hold on there's more, we had two World Wars And, how come the judges make more than the teachers is making When they the ones raising all the taxes and got us fighting for education Life is crazy ain't it
[Chorus] So many tears, through out the years Somebody tell me what's going on And so many lives, but only God knows About the pain deep inside It gets so hard, you got to keep your head up I know you're fed up, but stay strong Here's a message from coast to coast Cause when them thugs really need it the most, thug holiday
C'mon, these lyrics are terrible ! Don't tell me you consider that to be "some of the most soulful, thoughtful and, yes, "conscious" hip-hop ever recorded."
If that was a verse from Common's album you would have shitted on it.
Being that I am from the South, and "not well spoken", I aint about to type up a fucking essay explaining SHIT. But, DAMN some of yall gotta be STRAIGHT CLOWNS in real life. I've already seen a video of one on a TV show, so aint no guessing there.
Go ahead and write an essay explaining how I am wrong/stupid/or whatever else u want to say, but I aint listening.
this thread is fucking Barnum and Bailey style.
Although, from this thread I have learned that I probably like Paychecks,Noz,Faux and Cashless more than I thought I did.
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Again.
For those of you that missed it the first time.
The point is not that Trick is KRS-ONE '06 with a grill.
The point is that he is a multidimensional artist with a substantial amount of conscious content.
He is not a "caricature" and he is not a "minstrel"
And one more thing: he is soulful in pretty much everything he addresses, including h**s and skeezers.
oops, that was meant for Haz.
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Aha. Yeah, wasn't trying to minimize Southern hiphop at all by saying it sits on my shelf next to the *footnotes* section. I've stated love for the South several times but yet a statement like that gets taken as "minimizing" Southern hiphop? Apparently one can either think that indie shit is either "godhead" or a "footnote"....no middle ground. Perplexing. Man, I've lived my whole life in Louisiana and Texas (save a two year stint in New Jerus), I love Southern hiphop and hope the genre and artists get all the shine they can. But I don't think to myself I'm listening to a "giant" when I give "Da Unbreakables" a spin and a "footnote" when I decide I want to listen o cLOUDDEAD. Shit's just good music to me. I don't strive for the ultimate stratification of all artists in their rightful place.
Again, excuse my wordings. I meant "the Southern rap tip" merely to mean schitt that FR *doesn't* hate. I mean, I've read yr title, I see what the deal is. It's just w/out any sort of context, it makes it hard to decipher how much of yr posts are coming from behind a veil of sarcasm. Will do the knowledge you recommended.
I thought Noz' example/point w/r/t to the lasting imprints of Goodie MOB v. Rawkus to be valid and well-put. I could listen to "Soul Food" and "Funcrusher Plus" consecutively though and be just as pleased w/ each. Hey, I'll spare you the response though, that's on me right?
Well then, our work here is done. Meet me over in the Lisa Loeb thread so we can get that one blown-up proper.
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this one? yeah, this one.
the messiah is going to come backwith his whole top diamond and his bottom row gold
Okay. No argument.
jolly good show y'all jolly good
why can't we have 5 page modern soul threads?
C'mon, these lyrics are terrible ! Don't tell me you consider that to be "some of the most soulful, thoughtful and, yes, "conscious" hip-hop ever recorded."
If that was a verse from Common's album you would have shitted on it.
Ever recorded??? who said that?
he condescendingly asked for a concious trick daddy song. and he got what he asked for and condescendingly agreed to that.
I never said anything in addition to that or it being the best blah blah.
to be honest, it's one of my least favorite trick daddy songs. but those weren't the requirements set forth ..
Please... Is that supposed to be soulful ?
Oh, OK! Now I get it : he said God in the song. It has to be thoughtful.
I'd rather not.
I think Guzzo might find some playmates whose understanding of rap is comparable to his own over there.
hows about you actually listen to the song and then comment on it
Lacking in metaphors?
Not sufficiently superscientifical?
Fatal failure to invoke the four elementz?
im still amazed that archaic came from okayplayer to here
u right
I don't think many people at Okayplayer are capable of fully appreciating the jewell that is Young Shied.
no fucking kidding
FAUX RLY?
Being that I am from the South, and "not well spoken", I aint about to type up a fucking essay explaining SHIT. But, DAMN some of yall gotta be STRAIGHT CLOWNS in real life. I've already seen a video of one on a TV show, so aint no guessing there.
Go ahead and write an essay explaining how I am wrong/stupid/or whatever else u want to say, but I aint listening.
this thread is fucking Barnum and Bailey style.
Although, from this thread I have learned that I probably like Paychecks,Noz,Faux and Cashless more than I thought I did.
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what did i do?
Its true. go read the whole thing all over again. no really, go do it.