lol...I have another story about her. Larry David also spends summers on Martha's Vineyard and he wanted to get Carly on his show (a la Ted Danson). So he sends a small plane to pick her up to fly her to LA. She gets really offended and says she wont fly on a tiny little plane. So then he gives buys her two first class tickets. She flips out and says she wont do the show she was insulted that they would think she would fly commercial.
lol...I have another story about her. Larry David also spends summers on Martha's Vineyard and he wanted to get Carly on his show (a la Ted Danson). So he sends a small plane to pick her up to fly her to LA. She gets really offended and says she wont fly on a tiny little plane. So then he gives buys her two first class tickets. She flips out and says she wont do the show she was insulted that they would think she would fly commercial.
the format that kick-started FM radio back when AM dominated with the Top 40
In the mid 60s FM radio was a dead zone with a few classical music stations that nerds with expensive radios or kit radios could pick up. Most transisters and car radios had only AM.
Then hippies started "underground radio". They played groups like Hendrix and Dylan and Frank Zappa, groups who could not get top 40 play. They would also play Robert Johnson, Clifton Cheiner, Dan Hicks, Dave Von Ronk and Earl Scruggs. They played long cuts and didn't talk between songs in a set. FM band was cheap and commercials were few and far between.
By 1970 underground stations were dominating markets across the country. The corporate suits wanted a piece of the action and created AOR. DJs were allowed to play any cut off an album. Led Zepplin and Jethro Tull became sensations and the rest is in the dollar bins.
Yeah, I've always known AOR as Adult Oriented Rock, and taken that to mean super mellow rock that Japanese collectors will pay big money for. That Googie Coppola album thats not AIR, Phase7, Asia, even some melodic metal whatever that means. Luckily (or unluckily) for me there were alot of groups like these in Hawaii mostly from the 70's-80's.
But really, I still don't know what AOR means. Everyones definition seems to be different.
Yeah, I've always known AOR as Adult Oriented Rock, and taken that to mean super mellow rock that Japanese collectors will pay big money for. That Googie Coppola album thats not AIR, Phase7, Asia, even some melodic metal whatever that means. Luckily (or unluckily) for me there were alot of groups like these in Hawaii mostly from the 70's-80's.
But really, I still don't know what AOR means. Everyones definition seems to be different.
I associate AOR (in collector terms) to melodic rock with a slight hard edge. Re: Journey, Boston, Asia, Survivor, REO Speedwagon, 38 Special... Reference any rock music used in action movies of the 1980's.
MOR: Middle of the Road...easy listening pop...Carpenters, Osmonds, Tom Jones...
I've never heard of it being Adult Oriented Rock - in the radio biz, where it comes from, it means (or meant) Album Oriented Radio, which, as has been pointed out, means FM stations that would play album cuts from Kansas & Led Zep records instead of just singles. This is why I knew every song on Who's Missing years before I ever owned the album, from listening to these stations in the mid-late 70's as a kid. Album Oriented Rock works ok, too, since it was a "rock" format for the most part.
"Adult Oriented Rock" is just something you guys made up.
dude i did not make up adult oriented rock. i dont know how old you are but i am 37 and remember this bullshit. i know all about player baby come back and shit like that. check my out on san vincenti jogging down to the park in my butt tight dolphins. we can meet at the regal begal afterwords.
dude. even the link to wikipedia that i provided promps the adult oriented rock phrase... " In some markets the term AOR was re-positioned as Adult-oriented rock, implying that 'adults' were more likely to buy albums rather than singles ".
im not making this shit up batches. moonlight feels right and shit. my first album was james taylor gorrila and thats saying a lot coming from someone with an inventory of 70,000 plus. and on top of it all i know that bizatch nicolette larson personally.
dude. even the link to wikipedia that i provided promps the adult oriented rock phrase... " In some markets the term AOR was re-positioned as Adult-oriented rock, implying that 'adults' were more likely to buy albums rather than singles ".
Yeah, and pretty much ignores it after that, sticking with the original use of the term. Look, maybe it was bastardized in some areas into this Adult Oriented BS, but it seems pretty clear that the album cut format is the original and main definition of "AOR."
Where I'm from, that other stuff is called "Soft Rock" - and I'm no neophyte with that shit...I used to listen to Magic 106.7 and David Allan Boucher with "Bedtime Magic" to go to sleep - Bob Welch, America, Gerry Rafferty & Maria Muldar for days...
dude. even the link to wikipedia that i provided promps the adult oriented rock phrase... " In some markets the term AOR was re-positioned as Adult-oriented rock, implying that 'adults' were more likely to buy albums rather than singles ".
Yeah, and pretty much ignores it after that, sticking with the original use of the term. Look, maybe it was bastardized in some areas into this Adult Oriented BS, but it seems pretty clear that the album cut format is the original and main definition of "AOR."
Where I'm from, that other stuff is called "Soft Rock" - and I'm no neophyte with that shit...I used to listen to Magic 106.7 and David Allan Boucher with "Bedtime Magic" to go to sleep - Bob Welch, America, Gerry Rafferty & Maria Muldar for days...
In the early days of AOR it meant Album. It was not aimed at adults.
It is a radio term and certainly comes from Cash Box or Billboard.
Some time in the 90s it may have morphed to Adult.
LOOK FOR ME ON SAN VINCENTI. I WILL BE THE ONE IN THE DOLPHIN SHORTS AND HEADBAND WITH THE OVERSIZED RADIO SHACK A.M. HEADPHONES. YOU QUESTION MY BOZ SCAGGS KNOWLEDGE YOU MIGHT GET SHOT. I GOT GERRY RAFFERTY FOR DAYZ BATCHES. DONT TEST MY BAKER STREET GANGSTA BATCH.
Some time in the 90s it may have morphed to Adult.
Pretty sure that's the case. Adult Oriented Rock is definitely a widely used term and has been for a while now. Its roots in Album Oriented Rock/Radio makes sense though.
I was stuck in an Orange County hotel last weekend and watched several hours of Greg Brady pushing those TimeLife Sounds of the 70s CDs. I prefer to call that genre (70s/early 80s AOR) AM Gold. Year of the Cat, Reminiscing, Wildfire, etc.
If you're over 30 you can definitely get down with it. The closer you get to age 20 though, the more your mind has to be open to enjoy it. AM Gold goes with reefer.
Only cats in their 30s can remember tuning in to AM stations with any regularity to listen to Top 40. KFRC 610. If you've ever seen that on a bumper sticker, you're most likely over 30.
It scares me that as I read that sentence, my brain shot out - "Al Stewart, Little River Band - MICHAEL...MARTIN...MURPHY!!"
Wildfire was my favorite/most hated of the mid-70's kitchen AM radio in the AM breakfast tunes, smell of my Mom making pillsbury cinnamon rolls getting me almost as high as any reefer today, that damned story about the girl going back for her horse coming through the single tinny speaker...it freaked me out - I recognized it's cheesiness, yet couldn't deny the grip it's drama held on me...holy shit those rolls were good fresh out of the oven, icing melting down the sides...
She comes down from Yellow Mountain On a dark, flat land she rides On a pony she named Wildfire With a whirlwind by her side On a cold Nebraska night
Oh, they say she died one winter When there came a killing frost And the pony she named Wildfire Busted down its stall In a blizzard he was lost
She ran calling Wildfire [x3] By the dark of the moon I planted But there came an early snow There's been a hoot-owl howling by my window now For six nights in a row She's coming for me, I know And on Wildfire we're both gonna go
We'll be riding Wildfire [x3]
On Wildfire we're gonna ride Gonna leave sodbustin' behind Get these hard times right on out of our minds Riding Wildfire
dude i did not make up adult oriented rock. i dont know how old you are but i am 37 and remember this bullshit.
I'm around the same age as you, and I can tell you VERY FEW of the AOR (Album Oriented Rock) stations I grew up on played this easy listening stuff you keep tryin' to convince us is good.
And to the person who said that those of us over 30 might have a soft spot for this stuff - I'm over that hump myself, and I believe that Pablo Cruise/Fender Rhodes shit is Why Punk Had To Be Invented, because not all of us wanted to mellow out like that.
dude. even the link to wikipedia that i provided promps the adult oriented rock phrase... " im not making this shit up batches.
When i was a kid, i worked at a shitty AOR radio station, and yeah i thought AOR = Adult Oriented Rock, Thats it ... i thought this was (unfortunatly) common knowledge.
now i aint expousing the virtues of AOR, no. the shit sucks, But yeah i thought AOR = Adult oriented Rock. It started as a radio format.
cool, im off to listen to anything but AOR or MOR
peace.
aLAN
and DJ Neville you are a god for posting the WKRP pics.
I gave a girl a ride in my wagon Now she crawled in and took control She was tired as her mind was draggin' And I said get some sleep--we'll get on down the road
Like a picture she was laying there And moonlight dancing off her hair She woke up and took me by the hand She's gonna love me in my Chevy van And that's all right with me
Her young face was like that of an angel And her long legs were tanned and brown Better keep your eyes on the road son Better slow this vehicle down 'cause
'Cause like a picture she was laying there And moonlight dancing off her hair She woke up and took me by the hand She's gonna love me in my Chevy van And that's all right with me
I put her out in a town that was so small You could throw a rock from end to end A dirt road main street, she walked off in her barefeet And it's a shame I won't be passin' through again
Like a picture she was laying there And moonlight dancing off her hair She woke up and took me by the hand We made love me in my Chevy van And that's all right with me
Yeah like a picture she was laying there And moonlight dancing off her hair She woke up and took me by the hand We made love me in my Chevy van And that's all right with me
I'm 100% with AP on this one. AOR= Adult Oriented Rock. Music for people with 2 kids, a house and a car. REO Speedwagon makes them go wild. We have AOR FMs here in ARG. Got friends who listen to that shit, and they are still my friends.
I'm 100% with AP on this one. AOR= Adult Oriented Rock. Music for people with 2 kids, a house and a car. REO Speedwagon makes them go wild. We have AOR FMs here in ARG. Got friends who listen to that shit, and they are still my friends.
My story is true. First FM was an empty waste land, then it was underground radio, which was a free form format that played non-commercial music. Then the suits came up with Album Oriented Radio. In the early days they played album cuts not singles.
Today Album Oriented Radio no longer exists. A quick check of Billboard magazine shows two formats; Adult Top 40 (Bob Thompson, U2, Dave Matthews) and Adult Contemporary (Maroons, Kelly Clarkson, Los Lonely Boys).
If you are talking about the early 70s AOR meant Album Oriented Radio. By the late 70s programmers had started to tie the hands of djs and the single came back. Yet the same people who listened to in the early 70s kept listening. By the 80s programmers started to realize that the market for new music by Yes, Who and Eric Clapton were no longer kids. Thus Album Oriented became Adult Oriented.
Wildfire is MOR. I never knew how horrible that song really is until I read the lyrics.
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Well, she wasn't lying about that.
Anyway, I still want to tap her in the past
lol...I have another story about her. Larry David also spends summers on Martha's Vineyard and he wanted to get Carly on his show (a la Ted Danson). So he sends a small plane to pick her up to fly her to LA. She gets really offended and says she wont fly on a tiny little plane. So then he gives buys her two first class tickets. She flips out and says she wont do the show she was insulted that they would think she would fly commercial.
Please stop, you're hurting my feelings.
Ok.....here's another question.
What's the Strut's fascination w/ Leo Sayer? WTF ?
Dont ban a cat. Just sayin'.
AOR stands for "Divorcee Makeout Music."
Not sure why they don't call it DMM, but hey, I'm an industry outsider.
SG
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In the mid 60s FM radio was a dead zone with a few classical music stations that nerds with expensive radios or kit radios could pick up. Most transisters and car radios had only AM.
Then hippies started "underground radio". They played groups like Hendrix and Dylan and Frank Zappa, groups who could not get top 40 play. They would also play Robert Johnson, Clifton Cheiner, Dan Hicks, Dave Von Ronk and Earl Scruggs. They played long cuts and didn't talk between songs in a set. FM band was cheap and commercials were few and far between.
By 1970 underground stations were dominating markets across the country. The corporate suits wanted a piece of the action and created AOR. DJs were allowed to play any cut off an album. Led Zepplin and Jethro Tull became sensations and the rest is in the dollar bins.
But really, I still don't know what AOR means. Everyones definition seems to be different.
I associate AOR (in collector terms) to melodic rock with a slight hard edge. Re: Journey, Boston, Asia, Survivor, REO Speedwagon, 38 Special... Reference any rock music used in action movies of the 1980's.
MOR: Middle of the Road...easy listening pop...Carpenters, Osmonds, Tom Jones...
in the radio biz, where it comes from, it means (or meant)
Album Oriented Radio, which, as has been pointed out,
means FM stations that would play album cuts from Kansas
& Led Zep records instead of just singles. This is why I knew
every song on Who's Missing years before I ever owned the album,
from listening to these stations in the mid-late 70's as a kid.
Album Oriented Rock works ok, too, since it was a "rock"
format for the most part.
"Adult Oriented Rock" is just something you guys made up.
this is fascinating.
dude. even the link to wikipedia that i provided promps the adult oriented rock phrase... " In some markets the term AOR was re-positioned as Adult-oriented rock, implying that 'adults' were more likely to buy albums rather than singles ".
im not making this shit up batches. moonlight feels right and shit. my first album was james taylor gorrila and thats saying a lot coming from someone with an inventory of 70,000 plus. and on top of it all i know that bizatch nicolette larson personally.
later,
ap
Huge, huge record, sales wise.
I believe she's deceased, AP.
Yeah, and pretty much ignores it after that, sticking with the original use of the term.
Look, maybe it was bastardized in some areas into this Adult Oriented BS,
but it seems pretty clear that the album cut format is the original
and main definition of "AOR."
Where I'm from, that other stuff is called "Soft Rock" - and I'm no
neophyte with that shit...I used to listen to Magic 106.7 and David Allan Boucher
with "Bedtime Magic" to go to sleep - Bob Welch, America, Gerry Rafferty & Maria Muldar for days...
In the early days of AOR it meant Album. It was not aimed at adults.
It is a radio term and certainly comes from Cash Box or Billboard.
Some time in the 90s it may have morphed to Adult.
LOOK FOR ME ON SAN VINCENTI. I WILL BE THE ONE IN THE DOLPHIN SHORTS AND HEADBAND WITH THE OVERSIZED RADIO SHACK A.M. HEADPHONES. YOU QUESTION MY BOZ SCAGGS KNOWLEDGE YOU MIGHT GET SHOT. I GOT GERRY RAFFERTY FOR DAYZ BATCHES. DONT TEST MY BAKER STREET GANGSTA BATCH.
[color:white]spacertext [/color] DEWD DON'T MAKE ME FLOSS MY RUPERT HOLMES JAPANESE RAER
[color:white]spacertext [/color]POST ALL YOUR DONALD FAGEN ACETATES OR YOU'RE SOFT (ROCK)
i may have just been life flighted by the rofl copter.
Pretty sure that's the case. Adult Oriented Rock is definitely a widely used term and has been for a while now. Its roots in Album Oriented Rock/Radio makes sense though.
I was stuck in an Orange County hotel last weekend and watched several hours of Greg Brady pushing those TimeLife Sounds of the 70s CDs. I prefer to call that genre (70s/early 80s AOR) AM Gold. Year of the Cat, Reminiscing, Wildfire, etc.
If you're over 30 you can definitely get down with it. The closer you get to age 20 though, the more your mind has to be open to enjoy it. AM Gold goes with reefer.
Only cats in their 30s can remember tuning in to AM stations with any regularity to listen to Top 40. KFRC 610. If you've ever seen that on a bumper sticker, you're most likely over 30.
It scares me that as I read that sentence, my brain shot out - "Al Stewart, Little River Band - MICHAEL...MARTIN...MURPHY!!"
Wildfire was my favorite/most hated of the mid-70's
kitchen AM radio in the AM breakfast tunes, smell of my Mom making
pillsbury cinnamon rolls getting me almost as high as any reefer
today, that damned story about the girl going back for her
horse coming through the single tinny speaker...it freaked me out -
I recognized it's cheesiness, yet couldn't deny the grip it's drama
held on me...holy shit those rolls were good fresh out of the oven,
icing melting down the sides...
On a dark, flat land she rides
On a pony she named Wildfire
With a whirlwind by her side
On a cold Nebraska night
Oh, they say she died one winter
When there came a killing frost
And the pony she named Wildfire
Busted down its stall
In a blizzard he was lost
She ran calling Wildfire [x3]
By the dark of the moon I planted
But there came an early snow
There's been a hoot-owl howling by my window now
For six nights in a row
She's coming for me, I know
And on Wildfire we're both gonna go
We'll be riding Wildfire [x3]
On Wildfire we're gonna ride
Gonna leave sodbustin' behind
Get these hard times right on out of our minds
Riding Wildfire
I'm around the same age as you, and I can tell you VERY FEW of the AOR (Album Oriented Rock) stations I grew up on played this easy listening stuff you keep tryin' to convince us is good.
And to the person who said that those of us over 30 might have a soft spot for this stuff - I'm over that hump myself, and I believe that Pablo Cruise/Fender Rhodes shit is Why Punk Had To Be Invented, because not all of us wanted to mellow out like that.
Hey, Wikipedia can fuck up too!
now i aint expousing the virtues of AOR, no. the shit sucks, But yeah i thought AOR = Adult oriented Rock. It started as a radio format.
cool, im off to listen to anything but AOR or MOR
peace.
aLAN
and DJ Neville you are a god for posting the WKRP pics.
WHEN I SAY AOR I MEAN ADULT ORIENTED ROCK DAMNIT!
I JUST TRADED MY FORIGNER 4 IN FOR A COPY OF CHEVY VAN.
FUCK THIS SHIT!
PUNK WAS INVENTED BECAUSE SHRED IS DEAD DUDE. NOT BECAUSE CHRISTOPER CROSS GOT CAUGHT BETWEEN THE MOON AND NEW YORK CITY.
NOW STOP FUCKING WITH ME YOU GUYS!
Now she crawled in and took control
She was tired as her mind was draggin'
And I said get some sleep--we'll get on down the road
Like a picture she was laying there
And moonlight dancing off her hair
She woke up and took me by the hand
She's gonna love me in my Chevy van
And that's all right with me
Her young face was like that of an angel
And her long legs were tanned and brown
Better keep your eyes on the road son
Better slow this vehicle down 'cause
'Cause like a picture she was laying there
And moonlight dancing off her hair
She woke up and took me by the hand
She's gonna love me in my Chevy van
And that's all right with me
I put her out in a town that was so small
You could throw a rock from end to end
A dirt road main street, she walked off in her barefeet
And it's a shame I won't be passin' through again
Like a picture she was laying there
And moonlight dancing off her hair
She woke up and took me by the hand
We made love me in my Chevy van
And that's all right with me
Yeah like a picture she was laying there
And moonlight dancing off her hair
She woke up and took me by the hand
We made love me in my Chevy van
And that's all right with me
All right with me
WABC was the AOR station in NYC in the 70's for me. WINGS like a mofo.
My story is true. First FM was an empty waste land, then it was underground radio, which was a free form format that played non-commercial music. Then the suits came up with Album Oriented Radio. In the early days they played album cuts not singles.
Today Album Oriented Radio no longer exists. A quick check of Billboard magazine shows two formats; Adult Top 40 (Bob Thompson, U2, Dave Matthews) and Adult Contemporary (Maroons, Kelly Clarkson, Los Lonely Boys).
If you are talking about the early 70s AOR meant Album Oriented Radio. By the late 70s programmers had started to tie the hands of djs and the single came back. Yet the same people who listened to in the early 70s kept listening. By the 80s programmers started to realize that the market for new music by Yes, Who and Eric Clapton were no longer kids. Thus Album Oriented became Adult Oriented.
Wildfire is MOR. I never knew how horrible that song really is until I read the lyrics.
Dan