Boogaloo+Reggaeton Brothers from Different Mothers
Garcia_Vega
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Yeah I said it! This is an idea from multiple conversations and post observations in recent times. Boogaloo, a marriage of styles, guajira, guarachas, r'n'b, and soul. Reggaton, a marriage of styles, dancehall, spanish reggae, and hip-hop. Both extremely hated on by "conosieurs," "critics," "purists," and "specialists." Boogaloo, just as flashy as reggaeton, floss and boss, yaom?! Both have repetitive chords, and "no musical merit." The themes in the songs are basically the same, generally:1. I'm a bad ass dude, don't fuck with me.2. This is the best party ever, we're gonna dance all night long.3. My band/crew is dope, we make the best music ever.4. My girl left me, I want you back baby.5. My girl left me, fuck that bitch.6. Drugs will get you fucked up, thats ok though, sometimes.Hidden track: Puerto Rico must be free!plaese to add any I left out! 
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IMO, Bugaloo is more of a genuine melting pot of styles & cultures - music from below rather than latin kids trying to re-create their own Skribblejam. But that's just me being an old hatter.
Reggaeton was poppin' way before MTV hit PR. Our view of reggaeton is a product of MTV global kulcha though.
Why is boogaloo more geniuine? Fact stands that when you get down to it, they are both about partying, neither is more genuine than the other, just one was created before things were so media saturated. I wonder how many kids in PR have actually heard of Skribblejam. Note: Puerto Rico is bigger than what goes on in San Juan.
SON DON'T RISK IT
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I was unaware of 'kulcha roti', looks lovely though!
How do you know when I'm being sincere??
Be nice or I'll revoke your avatar, lildude.
Hey, maybe Reggaeton will turn out to be the saviour of RnB flavored pop (aka Hip Hop)
I think this applies to other moder music genres too.
Peace
I actually think that bugalu was a crossover move by latin producers who wanted to capitalize on the dancers, which was more cross cultural than straight ahead salsa. Sure, there are plenty great bugalu records and I am by no means saying that I dislike it, but it was DEFINITELY a product of consumers shaping the market for music.
Johnny nails it right thurr.
The other difference too is that boogaloo seemed to affirm a relationship between Latin and Black music in a way that reggaeton does NOT. If anything, the direction reggaeton is running in now is to remove the Blackness from it, play up the "Latin" side (as if Black and Latin were somehow mutually exclusive) and try to force a separation rather than celebrate reggaeton as something that comes from a hybrid cultural origin.
I disagree, reggaeton and boogaloo are both examples of latin pride, and I don't think either one has tried to distance themselves from black music. You see reggaeton remixes with all sorts of black artists, and Tego Calderon, among many others, are forever talking about African influences in reggaeton music. The thing is is that color lines are difficult to draw in Latin culture, well at least in Puerto Rico, where people acknowledge they come from an indian, african, and spanish heritage. No one is really "white" or "black," in this context. Boogaloo played up the latin side a lot, I mean if not they would have just made soul records, right? Both musics do say "Hey this is a latin thing" but know that they are a part of a bigger musical picture.
What's interesting to me is that some people find reggaeton so annoying (which is understandable) that they're almost bending over backwards trying to find all sorts of cultural and aesthetic reasons to discredit it, rather than just admitting they simply don't like it and don't understand it.
It's even more interesting when these anti-reggaeton folks get angry when other people try to discredit hiphop on the same basis.
the biggest beef i hear re: reggaeton, is that they use the same beat over and over. and that reason alone is why they hate. phrases like 'it's so derivative' and 'why can't they use a new beat?' pop up again and again.
then these same fools go out a grab every guajira 45 they can find
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For a lot of other people you could replace reggaeton with boogaloo, and guajira with cuban son, and that is exactly one of my points.
I'm not on the reggaeton bandwagon because some of it sounds too commercial, but as far as latin music, it appeals to me a lot more than Tejano/Norteno music. I hate that country accordian shit. Banda is the jam, though. Uptempo mariachi ska with tuba bass. That shit pwns. I do have a personal connection to that. Most men in my family play banda in Mazatlan.
Some people just hate on latin music period. Not sayin' this is the case here, but many will write it off before trying to understand it.
BTW. What is boogaloo? You mean the old school boogaloo rent parties back in the day when blacks moved north? Oh wait, that's boogy woogy.
Things I don't really get: Go Go/Boogaloo
What is there to get or not get with go go or boogaloo? You don't get their appeal? Or you don't know what those terms refer to?
Oliver
Thanks. I'm aware, I just didn't know the genre title.
I meant the terms. I try and understand the appeal in all music. Not that I always find it, but I look.
I never got exposed to go-go. That's why I mentioned it. i do know it's funky hip-hopish dance stuff with lots of percussion from the DC area. Am I right? Sorry, mega OT.
Speaking of Cuban records, my favorite is , "Patato & Totico" but I could learn a lot in this area.
Thanks for letting me use it, it was a good one
I don't agree with your comments though
I don't care one way or the other about reggaeton, but all popular music- I'm talking about the last century here- is influenced by consumer culture. MTV doesn't have anything to do with it.
I think you're hanging with the wrong crowd M*rk
that's not a bad description, though go-go didn't borrow from hip-hop so much as followed parallel music paths.