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"T Plays it Cool" Question

fishmongerfunkfishmongerfunk 4,154 Posts
edited February 2014 in Strut Central
that's a drum loop right?



so hate get all timmydigalot on the strut but is this the first instance of a "funky" drum loop on a record? what other early examples can be pointed to?

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  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    I think there was a thread on this a while ago, and I recall "loop" was determined.
  • Controller_7Controller_7 4,052 Posts
    Tape loop


    Or


    The most precise drummer ever.
  • vintageinfantsvintageinfants 4,537 Posts
    Controller_7 said:
    Tape loop


    Or


    The most precise drummer ever.




    btw. this robot sounds white.
  • JectWonJectWon (@_@) 1,654 Posts
    I assume there is more being looped than just the drums. Seems like some of the synths were looped and layered a bit, as well. Assuming the linear notes are accurate and that Marvin did indeed play all synths and keyboards on the track, then I'm almost willing to say they had to loop and or layer alternate takes into the final product.

    B/W

    Wow...didn't know until just now that Marvin played a fuck load of the instruments on Trouble man...including the drums.
  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    Marvin was a session drummer for Motown.
  • jjfad027jjfad027 1,594 Posts
    LaserWolf said:
    Marvin was a session drummer for Motown.

    I think his drumming experience is likely one of the reasons his lyrical cadence is so good.
  • uttersutters 321 Posts
    Interesting topic, especially given that this is one of favourite drum tracks ever, sound-wise, and the feel. So funky
  • Otis_FunkmeyerOtis_Funkmeyer 1,321 Posts
    http://www.npr.org/2012/11/19/165482376/40-years-since-marvin-gayes-forgotten-classic

    TREVOR LAWRENCE: "Yeah that's - Yes. And if you listen to it closely now, what you'll notice is that it's a loop. The drum - the drum is a drum loop. Now back in '72 there were no samplers. What they did was they took a piece of tape and they had the two track tape machine, and they made that pattern that made a loop like a figure eight around the tip - rim, which I'd never seen before."
  • okiba75okiba75 89 Posts
    Well that's something I learned today!
  • fishmongerfunkfishmongerfunk 4,154 Posts
    so, what are other early tracks that use a tape loop for the drums?
  • SnappingSnapping 995 Posts
    crabmongerfunk said:
    so, what are other early tracks that use a tape loop for the drums?


  • WOLF_ROCKWOLF_ROCK 6 Posts
    crabmongerfunk said:
    so, what are other early tracks that use a tape loop for the drums?
  • crazycratecrazycrate 32 Posts
    i doubt that on super freak it??s a loop.... how would they edit the bridge and the break?
    or is this a known fact and i??m trippin???
  • JectWonJectWon (@_@) 1,654 Posts
    crabmongerfunk said:
    so, what are other early tracks that use a tape loop for the drums?



    In 1979, Roger Taylor added a drum loop on Queen's "Another One Bites the Dust", on John Deacon's insistence, but "under protest", because he did not like the drums to be produced in that way.
  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    JectWon said:


    In 1979, Roger Taylor added a drum loop on Queen's "Another One Bites the Dust", on John Deacon's insistence, but "under protest", because he did not like the drums to be produced in that way.

    This quote suggests it was a well know, and perhaps not uncommon, production technique by '79.

    b/w

    That Beatles one is great.
  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,789 Posts
    ketanElectrode
  • JimsterJimster Cruffiton.etsy.com 6,955 Posts
    Zappa used looping in the 60s for sure.  Can't remember which one.  I am a fan of a lot of Zappa but the early experimental stuff is, alas, not my scene, man.  "Freak Out!" probably.  Frank was really into the whole idea of mashing stems of his own different recordings together - pre-digital.  He had his own mobile recording truck for his gigs and took it seriously - He called the concept "Xenochrony".  

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenochrony

    "A classic "Xenochrony" piece would be "Rubber Shirt", which is a song on the Sheik Yerbouti album. It takes a drum set part that was added to a song at one tempo. The drummer was instructed to play along with this one particular thing in a certain time signature, eleven-four, and that drum set part was extracted like a little piece of DNA from that master tape and put over here into this little cubicle. And then the bass part, which was designed to play along with another song at another speed, another rate in another time signature, four-four, that was removed from that master tape and put over here, and then the two were sandwiched together. And so the musical result is the result of two musicians, who were never in the same room at the same time, playing at two different rates in two different moods for two different purposes, when blended together, yielding a third result which is musical and synchronizes in a strange way. That's Xenochrony. And I've done that on a number of tracks."

    Doing all this with tape and razors is  
  • YemskyYemsky 710 Posts
    https://youtu.be/Qf1IaiWXG1Q?si=tPYhZkJMgTKeLGoX


    ketan
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