Audio Interfaces... so many choices

So... I'm in the market for an audio unit for my MacBook.  I'd like to connect a digital piano, and turntables, and maybe every once in a while a mic or synthesizer but that's not that important.

I also plan on connecting it to powered monitors.  So I want to play back whatever is on the computer, but I also want to be able to bypass that and just have records playing through the monitors or the piano playing through the monitors.  I want to avoid the use of an extra mixer and get rid of this mackie that has been gathering dust forever.

Oh- I would also like to maybe run Serato some day and use their controller records, but for the life of me I can't tell from googling if this is possible without using their special audio or if i can do it with any old interface.

So requirements I guess...
Run VSTs and Ableton
Control VSTs via a digital piano / keyboard (MIDI)
Record audio from the piano (maybe), or at least have the audio from the piano go through the interface and into the monitors
Easily listen to what is playing back from the computer while recording something to the computer


So for audio interfaces I have been looking athlete Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6 Mk2 USB Audio Interface and MOTU M4.  They both seem comparable. I'm almost wondering if I even need that much.  The new Komplete is getting horrible reviews but it all seems to be based on Windows users and driver issues.

They seem more or less comparable... I do want it to be portable.  So anybody have any thoughts?  Is there something that one does that the other doesn't that I would be missing?

Switching gears... I like to play the piano and my old digital piano fell apart and I want to get a new one.  And OH MY GOD there are like a million choices and review videos and it is all baffling.  There is a lot of talk about which one has the best sound, but really I don't need it to look like a piano, just a portable one on a stand is fine, and if I have studio monitors then I don't need the piano to have speakers.  So really just a rad 88 key controller that actually feels like a real piano and nice realistic piano sounds, and even some knobs so I can control filters and stuff on soft synths.  To this end the Roland RD2000 seems like a solid choice.  Some of the review videos says the piano sounds to digital and fake compared to a Kawaii, but I'm thinking maybe if you get a software piano (like a VST) then maybe it doesn't matter anyways.

For monitors I was looking at Kali Audio LP-6.  They are bigger than I would like (small room) but they sure get good reviews.

I just need some advice here. Especially about the audio interfaces...

  Comments


  • JimsterJimster Twilight Zone/ Al Capone/ Rolling Stone/ Eva Perón 6,391 Posts
    G*ry, I asked my mate JD73 who like the charming man, knows so much about these things.

    He said:

    "...- well- Most audio interfaces these days are decent, so any of the major brands (MOTU, Focusrite, Universal Audio, Apogee, Roland, Steinberg, etc) will be fine. Just make sure it has enough inputs and outputs really for the devices you need to connect and remember that one set of outs will go to monitors so make sure it has enough outputs for sending other channels out. The Roland RD2000 is a decent piano and would work well as a controller too. At that price there are lots of options though, so check out Nord, Yamaha, Korg too.
    It all depends on budget really!"

    HTH

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NyMNZsYyOI

  • SPlDEYSPlDEY Vegas 3,360 Posts
    Here's a couple of good resources for Audio Interface reviews:

    https://tapeop.com/reviews/gear/category/interfaces
    https://www.soundonsound.com/audio-interfaces

    I've got some good friends that rely on the Apogee Duet 2, but I personally couldn't see myself spending $650 for 2 inputs. If I was going that route I'd definitely go for a Focusrite Scarlett or that new SSL 2+. From what you're describing I would look into the Mackie ProFX12v3. 

    To use Serato you will need a compatible Serato Device or a Mixer with Serato built into it. For the Midi Keyboard I would def look into the M-Audio Hammer 88 ($400) or the M-Audio Keystation 88 ($250). 

    Good luck!

    - Spidey

  • dizzybulldizzybull 115 Posts
    Thanks guys!

  • RhythmGJRhythmGJ Buffalo, NY 214 Posts
    Yes, you don’t even have to ask the question at TapeOp; just do a search...



    GJ

  • kicks79kicks79 1,320 Posts
    So being quarantined at home had me finally drag out my old audio interface to record so mixes. Turns out my M-Audio box doesn't work with my latest OSX.
    What can people recommend for ripping DJ mixes?

  • RhythmGJRhythmGJ Buffalo, NY 214 Posts
    Did you look for an updated driver, by any chance?

    GJ

  • dizzybulldizzybull 115 Posts
    I was about to go with the MOTU m4 but they didn’t have them in stock anywhere so I got the native Instruments Komplete audio 6 mk2 (like it’s a weapons system) instead. I’m sure what I’m doing (bullshit) it will be perfect. 

  • kicks79kicks79 1,320 Posts
    RhythmGJ said:
    Did you look for an updated driver, by any chance?

    GJ

    Yes, I did thanks. Apparently the firewire series from M-Aduio has long been unsupported by them, much to the frustration of many users. There is an updated driver for el captain but not for high sierra. Some guy came up with a fix but it involves opening the terminal on your mac and changing code, which I can't be bothered with.  

    Ended up copping this 

    https://www.reloop.com/reloop-iphono-2



  • RhythmGJRhythmGJ Buffalo, NY 214 Posts
    kicks79 said:
    RhythmGJ said:
    Did you look for an updated driver, by any chance?

    GJ

    Yes, I did thanks. Apparently the firewire series from M-Aduio has long been unsupported by them, much to the frustration of many users. There is an updated driver for el captain but not for high sierra. Some guy came up with a fix but it involves opening the terminal on your mac and changing code, which I can't be bothered with.  

    Ended up copping this 

    https://www.reloop.com/reloop-iphono-2



    Looks perfect if you only want to input line audio for transfers.


    GJ

    kicks79
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