I hope I made myself clear.
I love vocal groups.
They are an important part of the history of soul, from the earliest days up to recently.
Top vocal groups on the fly here:
Shangra La's
Miracles
Drifters
Temps
Jacksons
Vandellas
Impressions
Flames
Falcons
Harold Melvin's
Intruders
There's 11. 50s-70s. I am sure with more thought I would be swapping some in and some out.
La Belle
Nevilles
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vintageinfants said:
whitey ruined it for everyone.
This is kind of true. Who wants to walk around for three or four years answering questions like, "So, people are calling you guys the One Direction of r&b - how do you feel about that?"
The Osmans were meant to be the white Jacksons weren't they? Could there even be an argument the MJ killed off the male soul group? I mean there was always the transition from group member to solo artist, but he pretty much cemented the move into solo pop superstardom and guaranteed that others would try to emulate that trajectory. Then it got to the point where they realised the first step was kinda redundant. If everyone wants to be like Mike, and no one wants to be like Tito, then your group is going to struggle to be a group.
The Jordanairs were meant to be the white Soul Stirrers weren't they? Could there even be an argument the Sam Cooke killed off the male group? I mean there was always the transition from group member to solo artist, but he pretty much cemented the move into solo pop superstardom and guaranteed that others would try to emulate that trajectory. Then it got to the point where they realised the first step was kinda redundant. If everyone wants to be like Sam, and no one wants to be like Thomas L. Breuster, then your group is going to struggle to be a group.
The Osmans were meant to be the white Jacksons weren't they? Could there even be an argument the MJ killed off the male soul group? I mean there was always the transition from group member to solo artist, but he pretty much cemented the move into solo pop superstardom and guaranteed that others would try to emulate that trajectory. Then it got to the point where they realised the first step was kinda redundant. If everyone wants to be like Mike, and no one wants to be like Tito, then your group is going to struggle to be a group.
MJ still did Jacksons albums during Off The Wall/Thriller.
The shift is more recent than his solo stardom and to me cant be attributed to one group/solo artist.
The Jordanairs were meant to be the white Soul Stirrers weren't they? Could there even be an argument the Sam Cooke killed off the male group? I mean there was always the transition from group member to solo artist, but he pretty much cemented the move into solo pop superstardom and guaranteed that others would try to emulate that trajectory. Then it got to the point where they realised the first step was kinda redundant. If everyone wants to be like Sam, and no one wants to be like Thomas L. Breuster, then your group is going to struggle to be a group.
Only male soul groups continued long after Sam Cooke's career, they didn't last through MJ's.
The Jordanairs were meant to be the white Soul Stirrers weren't they? Could there even be an argument the Sam Cooke killed off the male group? I mean there was always the transition from group member to solo artist, but he pretty much cemented the move into solo pop superstardom and guaranteed that others would try to emulate that trajectory. Then it got to the point where they realised the first step was kinda redundant. If everyone wants to be like Sam, and no one wants to be like Thomas L. Breuster, then your group is going to struggle to be a group.
Only male soul groups continued long after Sam Cooke's career, they didn't last through MJ's.
60s:
The top 5 groups include 2 vocal groups:
Supremes, 4 Seasons, 5th Dimension, Monkees, plus the Beatles who were a harmony group
70s:
Bee Gees, Eagles, J5, TO & Dawn, 3 Dog Night, Osmonds, Emotions
80s:
90s:
Boyz To Men, TLC, All 4 One
00s:
Black Eyed Peas?, Destiny's Child, Nickle Back?
10s:
Magic!
Not what I was expecting. Top pop artist from each decade.
80s had no vocal groups. 90s had at least DC. Did Beyonce ruin vocal groups?
Black-Eyed Peas, Nickelback, Three Dog Night, the Eagles, the Beatles, and even the Monkees were self-contained bands. Personally, I wouldn't consider them straight vocal groups.
(I don't know Magic! from a bucket of paint and don't have time to look them up...)
maybe it was the explosion of white boy bands on either side of y2k that ruined male r&B groups? once those made it big, being in a 5-person R&B vocal group might've seemed like trying to ride that waveÔÇôÔÇôfor the teenage singer thinking about starting a group with his friends that would've been corny, but solo singers like r. kelly or usher would've been role models instead.
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I love vocal groups.
They are an important part of the history of soul, from the earliest days up to recently.
Top vocal groups on the fly here:
Shangra La's
Miracles
Drifters
Temps
Jacksons
Vandellas
Impressions
Flames
Falcons
Harold Melvin's
Intruders
There's 11. 50s-70s. I am sure with more thought I would be swapping some in and some out.
La Belle
Nevilles
This is kind of true. Who wants to walk around for three or four years answering questions like, "So, people are calling you guys the One Direction of r&b - how do you feel about that?"
Also, "barbershop quartets"? Seriously?
Simpsons ruined barbershop quartets for everyone.
"Babyyyyy on Board....something...Burt Ward..."
has some place in this
is beyond me.
MJ still did Jacksons albums during Off The Wall/Thriller.
The shift is more recent than his solo stardom and to me cant be attributed to one group/solo artist.
Uhh..the 90's were huge for R&B groups.
Top pop artist from each decade. I didn't quickly and easily find Top R&B so I am going with this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Billboard_Hot_100_chart_achievements_by_decade
60s:
The top 5 groups include 2 vocal groups:
Supremes, 4 Seasons, 5th Dimension, Monkees, plus the Beatles who were a harmony group
70s:
Bee Gees, Eagles, J5, TO & Dawn, 3 Dog Night, Osmonds, Emotions
80s:
90s:
Boyz To Men, TLC, All 4 One
00s:
Black Eyed Peas?, Destiny's Child, Nickle Back?
10s:
Magic!
Not what I was expecting. Top pop artist from each decade.
80s had no vocal groups. 90s had at least DC. Did Beyonce ruin vocal groups?
New Edition
Tony Toni Tone
Guy
Troop
The Boys
Full Force
Today
LeVert
New Kids On The Block
Timex Social Club
The Mac Band
Strangely none of those groups made the Billboard top hot singles year end stats.
I wouldnt use Billboard as a gauge anyways. Singles sales or crossover radio play?
All the above groups have classics.
This dissolving R&B group question is a 00s thang.
Black-Eyed Peas, Nickelback, Three Dog Night, the Eagles, the Beatles, and even the Monkees were self-contained bands. Personally, I wouldn't consider them straight vocal groups.
(I don't know Magic! from a bucket of paint and don't have time to look them up...)
They have a song about a dad who is rude because he won't give his marriage blessing. On some
Full House twins "how rude!"
maybe it was the explosion of white boy bands on either side of y2k that ruined male r&B groups? once those made it big, being in a 5-person R&B vocal group might've seemed like trying to ride that waveÔÇôÔÇôfor the teenage singer thinking about starting a group with his friends that would've been corny, but solo singers like r. kelly or usher would've been role models instead.
also this: http://www.complex.com/music/2014/05/90s-male-r-and-b-group-pyramid-of-excellence
The pyramid is great.
Portland's U-Krew made the pyramid!
LoKey? > the field