HarveyCanal said:There's just something not right with the tone of her voice. She no longer sounds artistic as if she actually wants someone to pay attention to her. It's just dry ranting with no pot of gold at the end of her rainbow of isms.
bassie said:It's boring and a waste of a Slits sample.
bassie said:Instant Hit
(First track off Cut)
DocMcCoy said:New shit.
I think I prefer this to the previous track she put out. That shouldn't necessarily be read as an endorsement.
As soon as she's got something more substantial to offer than just rappity-rap word-salad circus tricks and a loooooooonnnngggg list of -isms, I'm ready to listen.
Take all the time you need, Lauryn.
JefDam said:This and the last track she released are both garbage.
Lauryn needs to hook up with Gabe Roth, make a throwback soul album, pay her debts, and return to obscurity having left some good music behind.
JefDam said: having left some good music behind.
bassie said:JefDam said: having left some good music behind.
I don't make music or any art for that matter, so I can only theorize and talk as a fan/consumer/audience member about artistic purity, art vs commerce, the creative process and artistic integrity. All to say, I can see how all the BS with the record company, the fraud charges and imprisonment can be exhausting and draining and knock the wind out of one's sails. And how one would not even want to give an iota of one's soul and creativity over to a label or the government against this backdrop.
But then, they don't own souls or creativity, so why not just, as said above, leave good music behind? Giving in to shitty lazy music and letting them compromise her art seems like she is telling them they own her and have a say as to how she does.
I am not even a fan of hers to be honest, but I can still recognize she had/has talent.
Not the same but kind of the same - look at what Marvin did with his circumstances. Grace and genius under pressure and all that.
LaserWolf said:Trying to ape Sinatra was not really a reinvention. Marvin had a huge hit in '62 with Stubborn Kind of Fellow, after having worked as a Moonglow with Harvey Fuqua for a while. He also worked as a drummer at Motown.
The Sinatra thing was part Marvin (all singers admire Sinatra), and part Motown (they were always going for that adult white crossover thing).
Lauren has been at it for almost as long. Blunted hit 19 years ago.
LaserWolf said:No oops.
10 songs in the R&B top ten including 2 at #1.
20 songs in the R&B top 40.
4 songs in the pop top 10 and 19 songs in the pop top 40.
All before Grapevine.
Every single one of them is R&B.
None of them is a different Sinatraesque Marvin.
2 Months before Grapevine hit he had a hit with Chained, a year before that It Takes Two.
There was no reinvention of Marvin Gaye for Grapevine.