"I do my job, go home watch TV, and go on the internet. I just like riling people up in my spare time."
He's a master troll, but If you've ever come across him on reddit as I have, you'll see he's a sick fuck. I don't believe dude just trolls 24/7 and doesn't believe or actually enjoy some of the things he says and posts. He did a whole post about having sex with his step daughter so...yeah, I dunno.
His whole free speech defense is akin to yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. I bet he's shitting bricks after all the things he's posted.
Yeah, eff this dude and all the people defending his right to anonymity. They mention the stepdaughter thing in this article. Apparently it's true. His whole family seems to be a bunch of weirdo creepy folk. I hope his employer fires his ass, if anything for his internet usage at work. (If he's posting THAT much he's gotta be doing it during office hours.) At my old job there was a very strict policy against using the internet for personal use. Back in the "Soulstrut Golden Era" I used to wonder how so many Strutters with jobs were able to post all day long.
Anyways, I may have said this here before, I've always hated when people have a different online persona than they do in the real world. I have more respect for someone who's a jerk online AND a jerk in the real world than someone who's a jerk online and a nice guy in the real world (or vice versa).
I am so out of the loop on all this Internet stuff. It's terrifying. Someone posted a RIP Amanda Todd thing on Facebook and I had never heard anything about that. Even after she killed herself people are saying all of this foul shit. Ive got two kids under 3 and I don't want them growing up in this kind of world. People have always been mean, but everything is so permanent now. I know it's an old question, but were people always this rotten or does the Internet just make everyone rotten or give them a pass to be rotten?
I am so out of the loop on all this Internet stuff. It's terrifying. Someone posted a RIP Amanda Todd thing on Facebook and I had never heard anything about that. Even after she killed herself people are saying all of this foul shit. Ive got two kids under 3 and I don't want them growing up in this kind of world. People have always been mean, but everything is so permanent now. I know it's an old question, but were people always this rotten or does the Internet just make everyone rotten or give them a pass to be rotten?
I'm out the door (late acutaly) - but I'll say 2 things re. Amanda Todd and the interwebs.
1. People have always been mean but the internet and the anonymity that comes with it have opened up new levels of cruelty without fear of reprocussion (hence my lack of empathy for dude being outed in the article above)
2. Teach your kids about what to do and what not to do. Unfortunately it's just the way it is now. And re. Amanda Todd - don't let them post pictures of themselves unless they're ready for them to be in front of the world permanently. That whole story is terrible.
I think we all read the short story The Lottery (Shirley Jackson) in middle school.
It is about mob mentality and cruelty.
It is much easier being mean to someone the farther you are removed from them.
Ever cussed out another driver? Would you have cussed them out if you standing nose to nose?
Telephone customer service takes more abuse than the in store customer service counter.
Dude is a creepy fucking deviant for sure, but I've been on Reddit for quite a while and whilst I'm aware of him, mainly from his creepy AmA, I've found it easy enough to avoid most of his 'contributions' to the site. That's not a defense of him in any way, just there are people with wider agendas than outing obvious trolls.
Personally I never really understood why something like r/jailbait was allowed to exist in the first place, posting sexualised pictures of underage girls is something that most rational people agree just plain wrong. Conversely I'm not sure what I think about this r/creepshots thing.
When shit started kicking off about it, thanks to r/shitredditsays (whose self imposed role as internet police I find almost equally troubling) I went and looked to see what all the fuss was about, but most of it seemed just like dudes taking photos of cute girls they saw on the street. Whilst this is ethically questionable, I don't see it as the heinous crime that some are intent on making it. We live in a over exposed culture, where it's considered ok for National publications to pap 'celebrities' naked in their homes, or take upskirts shots of them leaving cars, then for everybody to then repost those shots all over the internet. Most of what I saw on the front page of creepshots was much tamer and none of it pornographic, yet there are websites set up to out it's users as sexual predators and identify them to the authorities. Now that shit could potentially ruin a innocent person's life, so I find it confusing as to who the trolls are in that situation.
Yes there is a case for exposing the more seriously offensive trolls who hide behind the anonymity of the internet, all that 'an hero', facebook grief trolling is sickening, but there's a thin line between that, internet vigilantism and the erosion of free speech on the internet.
And this is the rather troubling story of a young guy who said some dumb shit and copied and pasted a bad taste joke to his own facebook page, which was then linked by someone to a page set up about a missing girl, which lead to a 50 strong mob at his front door and resulted in him getting 12 weeks in prison. - http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/oct/08/april-jones-matthew-woods-jailed
Anyways, I may have said this here before, I've always hated when people have a different online persona than they do in the real world. I have more respect for someone who's a jerk online AND a jerk in the real world than someone who's a jerk online and a nice guy in the real world (or vice versa).
Dude is a creepy fucking deviant for sure, but I've been on Reddit for quite a while and whilst I'm aware of him, mainly from his creepy AmA, I've found it easy enough to avoid most of his 'contributions' to the site. That's not a defense of him in any way, just there are people with wider agendas than outing obvious trolls.
Personally I never really understood why something like r/jailbait was allowed to exist in the first place...
Nothing drives traffic like controversy. Reddit knew what the game was and this fuckwad was a key moderator - I'm just surprised that the focus is that Reddit itself hasn't come under fire more.
Dude is a creepy fucking deviant for sure, but I've been on Reddit for quite a while and whilst I'm aware of him, mainly from his creepy AmA, I've found it easy enough to avoid most of his 'contributions' to the site. That's not a defense of him in any way, just there are people with wider agendas than outing obvious trolls.
Personally I never really understood why something like r/jailbait was allowed to exist in the first place...
Nothing drives traffic like controversy. Reddit knew what the game was and this fuckwad was a key moderator - I'm just surprised that the focus is that Reddit itself hasn't come under fire more.
We're talking about the web forum that the President of the United States decided to 'Salma' on. I don't think they need, or want, the kind of trafic this kind of controversy brings. This guy at Gawker has a hard-on for reddit and as DOR pointed out, it's hardly a bastion of morality itself.
I don't know, or understand, why Reddit decided to turn a blind eye, or why so many users accepted his behaviour, but then I'm not of the same generation as the majority of their user base. I don't really understand a lot of the behaviour that seems to have spawned from the 4chan generation and spewed across the rest of the internet. But since the original controversy Reddit has (at least) banned all sexually suggestive content featuring minors.
Maybe people don't understand how Reddit works? There is 100,000 sub forums, 10.000 of which are considered active. They're not centrally controlled like SS, they're user created and user moderated. As a user you can subscribe to whatever forums interests you, if there isn't a forum for it already, you're free to start one. They can be reported and closed down, but it doesn't work like your standard forum.
The main reason a lot of this has come out is because one of those 10.000 forums (SRS) has been running a PR campaign to bring down what it sees as over privileged, racist, misogynistic, homophobic, white men running wild. That forum even has many subject specific sub forums, where everything from Politics to Anime is discussed and moderated by those who subscribe to the rhetoric, ideologies and agenda of the main SRS forum. So to call 'Reddit' out for this isn't so simple.
Whoa, you think this is offensive?
I don't think it is offensive.
Let me ask a bunch of guys who are just like me if it is offensive.
You were wrong, I asked a bunch of guys and they all said it wasn't offensive.
All of your kind of people are too sensitive.
it's astonishing to me that people are protesting his firing using the defense of free speech.
Employment with private companies is almost always an at-will contract. If you are a Nazi in your spare time, or you frequent child porn sites (which is, btw, an activity to which VA seemed dangerously close) and the company finds out, they can fire you for it.
On another note, I think it's pretty funny that D****l hasn't posted on this site in months (can it have been a year?!? search tells me so) and dudes are still hott for him. Consider yourselves trolled.
"Amanda Todd, 15, committed suicide on Wednesday, weeks after posting on YouTube a video detailing years of bullying. Part of the video told of a moment of indiscretion ??? flashing her breasts on a webcam in Grade 7 ??? and an unknown male who threatened to send images of that moment to Amanda???s friends, family and schoolmates if she didn???t ???put on a show??? for him. She didn???t, and he did."
somebody anonymous once sent me mlj's real name and contact information but i deleted it right away. i can't even fathom how many internet/real world enemies that mlj troll has created..can he be next?
somebody anonymous once sent me mlj's real name and contact information but i deleted it right away. i can't even fathom how many internet/real world enemies that mlj troll has created..can he be next?
I know folks who know him, but what would be the point? Dude is annoying, but he's not really bullying anyone or advocating pedophilia, spousal abuse, etc. Better just to ignore him until he gets out of hand, then drop the banhammer.
somebody anonymous once sent me mlj's real name and contact information but i deleted it right away. i can't even fathom how many internet/real world enemies that mlj troll has created..can he be next?
I know folks who know him, but what would be the point? Dude is annoying, but he's not really bullying anyone or advocating pedophilia, spousal abuse, etc. Better just to ignore him until he gets out of hand, then drop the banhammer.
Yer, there's a big difference between someone saying shit you don't like, even if it is ad nauseum, and this creepy fuck on reddit.
On another note, I think it's pretty funny that D****l hasn't posted on this site in months (can it have been a year?!? search tells me so) and dudes are still hott for him. Consider yourselves trolled.
On another note, I think it's pretty funny that D****l hasn't posted on this site in months (can it have been a year?!? search tells me so) and dudes are still hott for him. Consider yourselves trolled.
Ah, the Anthony Pearson Paradigm.
in the words of that great internet sage, you must deal
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also anonymity is an ILLUSION.
I don't buy this:
He's a master troll, but If you've ever come across him on reddit as I have, you'll see he's a sick fuck. I don't believe dude just trolls 24/7 and doesn't believe or actually enjoy some of the things he says and posts. He did a whole post about having sex with his step daughter so...yeah, I dunno.
His whole free speech defense is akin to yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. I bet he's shitting bricks after all the things he's posted.
Anyways, I may have said this here before, I've always hated when people have a different online persona than they do in the real world. I have more respect for someone who's a jerk online AND a jerk in the real world than someone who's a jerk online and a nice guy in the real world (or vice versa).
I'm out the door (late acutaly) - but I'll say 2 things re. Amanda Todd and the interwebs.
1. People have always been mean but the internet and the anonymity that comes with it have opened up new levels of cruelty without fear of reprocussion (hence my lack of empathy for dude being outed in the article above)
2. Teach your kids about what to do and what not to do. Unfortunately it's just the way it is now. And re. Amanda Todd - don't let them post pictures of themselves unless they're ready for them to be in front of the world permanently. That whole story is terrible.
It is about mob mentality and cruelty.
It is much easier being mean to someone the farther you are removed from them.
Ever cussed out another driver? Would you have cussed them out if you standing nose to nose?
Telephone customer service takes more abuse than the in store customer service counter.
The internet seems to multiply all these effects.
But in all honesty. The hypocrisy of Gawker is on such a mind blowing level. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...
Source: Penny Arcade
This article takes a wider look at the situation - http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/12/reddit-blocks-gawker-creepshot-photos
Personally I never really understood why something like r/jailbait was allowed to exist in the first place, posting sexualised pictures of underage girls is something that most rational people agree just plain wrong. Conversely I'm not sure what I think about this r/creepshots thing.
When shit started kicking off about it, thanks to r/shitredditsays (whose self imposed role as internet police I find almost equally troubling) I went and looked to see what all the fuss was about, but most of it seemed just like dudes taking photos of cute girls they saw on the street. Whilst this is ethically questionable, I don't see it as the heinous crime that some are intent on making it. We live in a over exposed culture, where it's considered ok for National publications to pap 'celebrities' naked in their homes, or take upskirts shots of them leaving cars, then for everybody to then repost those shots all over the internet. Most of what I saw on the front page of creepshots was much tamer and none of it pornographic, yet there are websites set up to out it's users as sexual predators and identify them to the authorities. Now that shit could potentially ruin a innocent person's life, so I find it confusing as to who the trolls are in that situation.
Yes there is a case for exposing the more seriously offensive trolls who hide behind the anonymity of the internet, all that 'an hero', facebook grief trolling is sickening, but there's a thin line between that, internet vigilantism and the erosion of free speech on the internet.
Here's an interesting story about one journalist's experience of being abused/trolled over the internet - http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/sep/26/day-confronted-troll
And this is the rather troubling story of a young guy who said some dumb shit and copied and pasted a bad taste joke to his own facebook page, which was then linked by someone to a page set up about a missing girl, which lead to a 50 strong mob at his front door and resulted in him getting 12 weeks in prison. - http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/oct/08/april-jones-matthew-woods-jailed
Aka the Faux Rillz paradox.
Nothing drives traffic like controversy. Reddit knew what the game was and this fuckwad was a key moderator - I'm just surprised that the focus is that Reddit itself hasn't come under fire more.
I don't know, or understand, why Reddit decided to turn a blind eye, or why so many users accepted his behaviour, but then I'm not of the same generation as the majority of their user base. I don't really understand a lot of the behaviour that seems to have spawned from the 4chan generation and spewed across the rest of the internet. But since the original controversy Reddit has (at least) banned all sexually suggestive content featuring minors.
Maybe people don't understand how Reddit works? There is 100,000 sub forums, 10.000 of which are considered active. They're not centrally controlled like SS, they're user created and user moderated. As a user you can subscribe to whatever forums interests you, if there isn't a forum for it already, you're free to start one. They can be reported and closed down, but it doesn't work like your standard forum.
The main reason a lot of this has come out is because one of those 10.000 forums (SRS) has been running a PR campaign to bring down what it sees as over privileged, racist, misogynistic, homophobic, white men running wild. That forum even has many subject specific sub forums, where everything from Politics to Anime is discussed and moderated by those who subscribe to the rhetoric, ideologies and agenda of the main SRS forum. So to call 'Reddit' out for this isn't so simple.
You could spend all day on reddit, subscribed to only subs specific to your interests - lets pick 6 by clicking the random button; http://www.reddit.com/r/wicked_edge/, http://www.reddit.com/r/climbing/, http://www.reddit.com/r/PostHardcore/, http://www.reddit.com/r/lds/, http://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/, http://www.reddit.com/r/realdubstep/ - and be completely oblivious to all this 'controversy'.
I don't think it is offensive.
Let me ask a bunch of guys who are just like me if it is offensive.
You were wrong, I asked a bunch of guys and they all said it wasn't offensive.
All of your kind of people are too sensitive.
http://www.salon.com/2012/10/15/infamous_reddit_troll_loses_job_after_gawker_expose/
The internets is forever! Don't post what you don't want to haunt you later.
Employment with private companies is almost always an at-will contract. If you are a Nazi in your spare time, or you frequent child porn sites (which is, btw, an activity to which VA seemed dangerously close) and the company finds out, they can fire you for it.
On another note, I think it's pretty funny that D****l hasn't posted on this site in months (can it have been a year?!? search tells me so) and dudes are still hott for him. Consider yourselves trolled.
Anonymous claims it has found Amanda Todd's tormentor
"Amanda Todd, 15, committed suicide on Wednesday, weeks after posting on YouTube a video detailing years of bullying. Part of the video told of a moment of indiscretion ??? flashing her breasts on a webcam in Grade 7 ??? and an unknown male who threatened to send images of that moment to Amanda???s friends, family and schoolmates if she didn???t ???put on a show??? for him. She didn???t, and he did."
I know folks who know him, but what would be the point? Dude is annoying, but he's not really bullying anyone or advocating pedophilia, spousal abuse, etc. Better just to ignore him until he gets out of hand, then drop the banhammer.
b/w
FALSE EQUIVALENCE!!!
Ah, the Anthony Pearson Paradigm.
in the words of that great internet sage, you must deal