Cypress Hill "Real Estate"/"Sexy Coffee Pot" question
IndianaCornikova
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Hey all...So it's understood that Muggs' incredible "Real Estate" production features the bassline from "Sexy Coffee Pot." However, I've never heard a version of the Tony Alvon song in which the bass is present without the drums. At the beginning of the Cypress cut, the bass appears to be totally soloed from the other instruments.
Any ideas as to how this was achieved? It doesn't sound EQ'd (no drums bleeding through). Is there a different mix that exists somewhere? Or did Muggs ever credit a live bassist?
I thought I'd ask the professionals. Thanks!
Any ideas as to how this was achieved? It doesn't sound EQ'd (no drums bleeding through). Is there a different mix that exists somewhere? Or did Muggs ever credit a live bassist?
I thought I'd ask the professionals. Thanks!
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New sample mystery?!
Yeah, I just assumed it was a replay of the bass line because of the different tone and lack of soloed bass in "Sexy Coffee Pot." I'll be pretty fucking startled if it can be re-created just by filtering the OG.
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I love you producer nerd types. I say that sincerely and with all due respect. I wish I had the technical know-how to de/reconstruct something like this.
With all due respect i think it is a played live bass and not the Tony Avalon record. You can hear it in the upper harmonics of the Cypress part kinda. You can almost hear fingers sliding over the strings. The same way the bass sounds on things like Main Source's "Snake Eyes" on the outro or Eric B & Rakim's "Keep The Beat" intro. That's just my opinion though....
Hmm, I've got my doubts. Apart from the pitch which is slightly up on Mugg's production and the filter settings (which I've only roughly tried to emulate), it's pretty darn close. Also, back when Muggs was making the beat for "Real Estate" (pre-Roughouse deal iirc) he was just making beats on his SP in his crib. Why would he feel the need to get a bass player in to replay it when the lowpass filter trick was common knowledge amongst producer types. Just like The_Non mentioned, Muggs didn't hold back on samples on the album, so why would he worry about it just for this track?
Don't sleep on the muh' fukkin upper harmonics yall....the u.h.'s.
I feel like I hear the fingers scratching the strings of an upright, as well.
EDIT: actually. I cannot hear the fingers on the strings. Jesus, I don't know. Good question, OP.
Re-EDIT: [del]Not a sound engineer at all...but to me, it seems like this is the s.c.p sample and the beat/pattern/ambiance from the drum break he puts on top pretty much drowns out the other shit going on in the s.c.p. sample other than the bass and horns.[/del]
FINAL EDIT: Beginning bass is definitely redone by his bassist homie or, something.
"Snake Eyes" is the exact comparison I was thinking of--it has live bass playing underneath the Johnny Taylor sample.
Well I'll be damned
Wow, this leads me to wonder how much else on that album is re-played, and also why they felt they needed to on Real Estate as there was still quite a Wild West attitude to sampling around 90-91.
Bonus beat, Cypress Hill's demos where posted up a while back which sounded not that different from what was eventually released. I wonder if that's a sample or not.
On the Main Source album - arguably one of the great sample-based albums of all time - they had Anton playing bass on many tracks. It wasn't that unusual regardless of sampling laws/practices of the time.
Okay, cool. Thanks for the insight!
yep, i always knew these were bass replays and i suspected the same guy for the large pro produced stuff. Anton Pukshansky. It'd be great to hear from this guy about these sessions or his recollection of what went down.
http://othersounds.com/interview-anton-pukshansky/
Enjoy!
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