Golden Era Hip Hop

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  • The real question...

    When is your thesis due?

  • Anto99Anto99 244 Posts
    Hopefully not for a while. Apparently my proof points need some work.

  • Anto99 said:
    Just like a movie review that says " Great Film" but chops out the part of the sentence before it that said " This could have been a" you omitted the parts of my post that framed my statement as a question, not a statement. An opinion that I admit and question as being flawed.

    Right, if you question it being flawed, its all gravy. The original post, all parts included, didn't give off that impression to most that read it. We must all be overlooking something, or thats simply how your post came off. I think its the latter. Either way, welcome to the strut, where hatters hatt.

  • Anto99Anto99 244 Posts
    Could it be...I don't know..the fact that I'm a newbie? Cuz I'm reading that post again and it definitely isn't preaching or stating a fact. It's clearly asking a question.

  • You only gave two possible answers though. Im leaning towards jaded old guy, but that'd miss the mark though no?

  • Anto99 said:
    sounds like the 90s, what do YOU think they mean? Or Thes One? Enlighten me.


  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,902 Posts
    Ha

  • Anto99Anto99 244 Posts
    I don't always have decent comebacks, but when I do, I borrow from tired ad campaigns from 4 years ago.

  • edpowersedpowers 4,437 Posts
    TET

  • SIRUSSIRUS 2,554 Posts
    ....

  • Anto99 said:
    I don't always have decent comebacks, but when I do, I borrow from tired ad campaigns from 4 years ago.















  • DocMcCoyDocMcCoy "Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
    Oh, this thread just got really good...

  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
    This thread is a chameleon where only one eye swivels.

  • dude... having reached the age of 36 you dont have anything more important to do than argue with strangers over what constitutes the golden age of hip hop? im not saying you should grow out of it or leave it behind but hip hop as a whole is for the most part a youth oriented thing and the hip hop of the day generally reflects the styles and trends that are popular among todays youth and theres nothing wrong with that. Who really wants to hear new music by a 40 yr old rap artist struggling to stay relevant?

  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
    paul_funyun said:
    Who really wants to hear new music by a 40 yr old rap artist struggling to stay relevant?

    Why you got to do Junior's musical tastes like that?

    ::wink::

  • JuniorJunior 4,853 Posts
    skel said:
    paul_funyun said:
    Who really wants to hear new music by a 40 yr old rap artist struggling to stay relevant?

    Why you got to do Junior's musical tastes like that?

    ::wink::

    Hey now, don't taint me with that brush. The older I get the younger the artists I listen to. By the time I reach 40 I'll be regressing to kindergarten hip hop.The rap game Peter Stringfellow.

    B/w This thread reads like a Formspring account.

  • Anto99Anto99 244 Posts
    paul_funyun said:
    dude... having reached the age of 36 you dont have anything more important to do than argue with strangers over what constitutes the golden age of hip hop? im not saying you should grow out of it or leave it behind but hip hop as a whole is for the most part a youth oriented thing and the hip hop of the day generally reflects the styles and trends that are popular among todays youth and theres nothing wrong with that. Who really wants to hear new music by a 40 yr old rap artist struggling to stay relevant?

    Hahha. Can't believe this is still going! Unreal. Who's arguing? Not me. Just up for a little back and forth with other record geeks. And a waste of time? Don't make me go search the forum and find more "important" matters that are currently being discussed. Like "Let's talk about Rare Earth" or " Rap you're liking" It's a music site! That's why people come here! And please. show me when and where I talked about seeking out 40-yr old rappers? I didn't. You did! This is now getting a bit bizarre. Let.It.Go.

  • magpaulmagpaul 1,314 Posts
    Junior said:
    skel said:
    paul_funyun said:
    Who really wants to hear new music by a 40 yr old rap artist struggling to stay relevant?

    Why you got to do Junior's musical tastes like that?

    ::wink::

    Hey now, don't taint me with that brush. The older I get the younger the artists I listen to. By the time I reach 40 I'll be regressing to kindergarten hip hop.The rap game Peter Stringfellow.

    I can verify Junior's music taste courtesy of last.fm. Yung Pimp, Smokin Treez and a zillion other upcoming mixtape rappers I never heard of.

  • Anto99Anto99 244 Posts
    Good luck with whatever you're arguing about here. I can't quite follow exactly what it is at this point I'm afraid.

  • Anto99Anto99 244 Posts
    "daily ha ha ha.com?" Slick.

  • JuniorJunior 4,853 Posts
    magpaul said:
    Junior said:
    skel said:
    paul_funyun said:
    Who really wants to hear new music by a 40 yr old rap artist struggling to stay relevant?

    Why you got to do Junior's musical tastes like that?

    ::wink::

    Hey now, don't taint me with that brush. The older I get the younger the artists I listen to. By the time I reach 40 I'll be regressing to kindergarten hip hop.The rap game Peter Stringfellow.

    I can verify Junior's music taste courtesy of last.fm. Yung Pimp, Smokin Treez and a zillion other upcoming mixtape rappers I never heard of.

    I find listening to artists with Y[o]ung in their name helps keep me attuned to what people young enough to be my child might be checking out if they were half as hip as me. It helps if you approach music with a Logan's Run mindset.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    paul_funyun said:
    Who really wants to hear new music by a 20 yr old rap artist struggling to stay relevant?

  • JuniorJunior 4,853 Posts
    20's the new 30.

    Bless Anto99 for using The Game as a reference for modern rap though (and for producing a clueless :hayek: ) He should fit in nicely round these parts these days.

  • Anto99Anto99 244 Posts
    On another note, anyone here into Moonstaar?

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts

  • Anto99Anto99 244 Posts
    Junior said:
    20's the new 30.

    Bless Anto99 for using The Game as a reference for modern rap though (and for producing a clueless :hayek: ) He should fit in nicely round these parts these days.

    And kudos to you sir for using the word kudos. And for taking the time to source a reference I made oh, 10 posts ago. Fingers crossed that I "fit in" around here one of these days. Now back to spanking it to early 90s issues of The Source ( 5 mic Illmatic article)

  • MjukisMjukis 1,675 Posts
    Anto99 said:
    I don't always have decent comebacks, but when I do, I borrow from tired ad campaigns from 4 years ago.

    You do realise you're talking to the only current artist you like that makes music that's any good, right?

    Just kidding - well, mostly. Like people have said, this argument has a long history here but I think the discussion has been kept classy. Just like to offer my own point of view.

    I'm a huge fan of 90s rap, but back then, I was equally (if not more) into punk and hardcore. I went to a festival here in Sweden a couple of weeks ago and got to see a reunited Refused - one of the great (Swedish) bands of the era. They were incredibly tight and just killed it. I also saw De La Soul (pretty damn good) and Common (decent).

    But great as a show like this is (I'd never thought I'd get to see Refused live, didn't manage to do it when they were still together), or how cool it is to see De La or Common, it was still more satisfying to see Lunice from TNGHT, ASAP Rocky, Yelawolf and Araabmuzik. Because not only were they great shows, their music is a current force. It couldn't have been made anytime but now (especially Lunice's music, probably the best show of the festival for me) and their place in the history books hasn't been written yet. It's awesome, and it just made me excited about where music is going - while I know that Refused, De La and Common have their glory days behind them. They're already legends in their fields and in the "halls of fame" so to speak. Pop music, in the broadest term, is all about the excitement of the new hot thing. Yesterday and today. You can still respect the legends and read up on your history, of course.

    As far as new music, you know, like what you like. Like people have said, you're missing out on a lot of great music if you think good music has a unifying aesthetic quality to it - Bert Jansch, Show & AG, Prince, Moondog and Clams Casino are all good, not because they share a common element or aesthetic, just because they sound good, you know?

    There's a lot better "new" music out there than the Lootpack album. And I actually like that album - yes, for nostalgic reasons mostly.

  • Anto99Anto99 244 Posts
    Mjukis said:
    Anto99 said:
    I don't always have decent comebacks, but when I do, I borrow from tired ad campaigns from 4 years ago.

    You do realise you're talking to the only current artist you like that makes music that's any good, right?

    Just kidding - well, mostly. Like people have said, this argument has a long history here but I think the discussion has been kept classy. Just like to offer my own point of view.

    I'm a huge fan of 90s rap, but back then, I was equally (if not more) into punk and hardcore. I went to a festival here in Sweden a couple of weeks ago and got to see a reunited Refused - one of the great (Swedish) bands of the era. They were incredibly tight and just killed it. I also saw De La Soul (pretty damn good) and Common (decent).

    But great as a show like this is (I'd never thought I'd get to see Refused live, didn't manage to do it when they were still together), or how cool it is to see De La or Common, it was still more satisfying to see Lunice from TNGHT, ASAP Rocky, Yelawolf and Araabmuzik. Because not only were they great shows, their music is a current force. It couldn't have been made anytime but now (especially Lunice's music, probably the best show of the festival for me) and their place in the history books hasn't been written yet. It's awesome, and it just made me excited about where music is going - while I know that Refused, De La and Common have their glory days behind them. They're already legends in their fields and in the "halls of fame" so to speak. Pop music, in the broadest term, is all about the excitement of the new hot thing. Yesterday and today. You can still respect the legends and read up on your history, of course.

    As far as new music, you know, like what you like. Like people have said, you're missing out on a lot of great music if you think good music has a unifying aesthetic quality to it - Bert Jansch, Show & AG, Prince, Moondog and Clams Casino are all good, not because they share a common element or aesthetic, just because they sound good, you know?

    There's a lot better "new" music out there than the Lootpack album. And I actually like that album - yes, for nostalgic reasons mostly.



    We're 100% on the same page I think. And I have tried to keep it classy. Nothing personal or confrontational on my end. And for the record, I am always on the look out for new shit. Though I am primarily into funk, soul, jazz etc, but I go back and forth sometimes.

    Hell, I even dig some indy shit, rockabilly ect - the dude I work with is on that tip so I hear a lot of it. I will admit that even when looking for new shit, it does share the same aesthetic. Or similar I guess. But I'm not discounting new shit at all when I say that. Strictly what I'm feeling that's all.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    Please tell us more about yourself.

  • Anto99Anto99 244 Posts
    Also feeling the Sofrito, Senor Vishal and A Man Called Warwick scene right now. Voodoo Funk too out of NY. Lots of tropical shit that I have never heard in my life. It's old, sure. But unlike finding the next great funk or soul side, this stuff is completely new to me. Shit from Angola, early Calypso, Mento, Indian Jazz etc. So much good shit being unearthed.
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