Why is record digging no part of hip hop?
Grope
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Sorry for being a little ignorant, but I really don't know much about the history of the "4 elements" and the origin of hip hop.
A friend of mine is a hip hop radio show host and we usually spend a lot of time talking about music. Generally, we got the same taste in hip hop music. We like the "golden era" sound, but still enhjoy some "modern" groups.
We've been at a Jazz concert two weeks ago. It was MAAAAAAD nice. Hohner/Roland electric piano plus Jazz guitar (sounded like Wess Montgomery), bass and drums. Reminded me of Romano Mussolini, but nevermind...
On our way home, my friend said that the concert was horrible and explained that he can't listen to Jazz just because the music is sooo repetitive and basically boring to hip hop fans. Snobbish music! I went crazy and told him that Jazz and Funk are the roots of his favorite music. How could he ever disrespect superb Jazz musicians right after they played their hearts out?!?!?!
I tried to talk to him about Jazz and Funk and how most early hip hop was very simple knitted and oftenly straight stealing 1:1 from Jazz or Funk records. His response: "Ayo, you're acting snobbish like your Jazz heroes. You can't talk about hip hop to me. Crate digging and crate diggers have never been an element of hip hop." I was shocked.
What's the true rlationship between hip hop culture and crate digging? No part of hip hop? Come on! Hip Hop wouldn't be hip hop without the usage of old records. Records and crate diggers were always the 5th element of hip hop, right? What would hip hop be without crate diggers?
My friend said that Public Enemy and ATCQ probably used their parents records for beat making! How ignorant is that? Herc was a crate digger first thing, right? Was I being fooled??? How important is digging in the eyes of the hip hop people and their so called hip hop culture?
A friend of mine is a hip hop radio show host and we usually spend a lot of time talking about music. Generally, we got the same taste in hip hop music. We like the "golden era" sound, but still enhjoy some "modern" groups.
We've been at a Jazz concert two weeks ago. It was MAAAAAAD nice. Hohner/Roland electric piano plus Jazz guitar (sounded like Wess Montgomery), bass and drums. Reminded me of Romano Mussolini, but nevermind...
On our way home, my friend said that the concert was horrible and explained that he can't listen to Jazz just because the music is sooo repetitive and basically boring to hip hop fans. Snobbish music! I went crazy and told him that Jazz and Funk are the roots of his favorite music. How could he ever disrespect superb Jazz musicians right after they played their hearts out?!?!?!
I tried to talk to him about Jazz and Funk and how most early hip hop was very simple knitted and oftenly straight stealing 1:1 from Jazz or Funk records. His response: "Ayo, you're acting snobbish like your Jazz heroes. You can't talk about hip hop to me. Crate digging and crate diggers have never been an element of hip hop." I was shocked.
What's the true rlationship between hip hop culture and crate digging? No part of hip hop? Come on! Hip Hop wouldn't be hip hop without the usage of old records. Records and crate diggers were always the 5th element of hip hop, right? What would hip hop be without crate diggers?
My friend said that Public Enemy and ATCQ probably used their parents records for beat making! How ignorant is that? Herc was a crate digger first thing, right? Was I being fooled??? How important is digging in the eyes of the hip hop people and their so called hip hop culture?
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80s pop raer ayo!
jesus i have my hatter hat on this week. whats wrong with me?
I get that, but who's digging for MP3s? Which part of hip hop is trying to find stuff to create the hip hop music? DJs? Are producers neither an element of hip hop?
german radio show host = mr sucker
haha! could be!
c'mon. I buy them here and there.
How does wes montgomery have anything to do with the roots of hip hop? Other than that his music was stolen for a couple mid nineties rap beats.
aka Mom's and Pop's collection. Digging is the nerdiest part of hip hop (which has a lot of nerdy aspects anyway), so not cool for the image, but most importantly the concept of digging does not promote consumption of mass-produced diposable crap for some offshored mega corp and their spokesmodel to make a buck from. Thus it ain't representin yo.
it was supposed to be all brave by him. we told him we were going and he joined us without even asking. i have no idea why he attended the show... guess it's because hip hop people got soooo much respect for everything.
3rd element of European hiphop
But when hip hop kids listen to ??ber Jazz or Disco, they can't stand it and will say: that's weak. they's hate on any heavy metal, but wouldn't dare to admit some hip hop tracks suck BADLY!!!
That does not exist anymore.
dead that.
anyway i think digging is much less "nerdy" than breaking
2nd element of old guys listening to new hiphop
This is sad.
Reminds me on how guys would always come into whatever shop I was working at and try fronting. Same dudes every week. "Y0, I just heard DJ such n such play this track. Do you got it??" Thinkin' they are the man for even knowing about the track. Most times it's always a track that (Enter a big name radio DJ name here) only had. And they loved when you would say no, cause it made them feel special. But I always loved when I would pull out the promo and go "Yup, here ya go" and they would never ever buy it.
MP3's have just blown up this steez 2,000,000% in a slightly different way. I'm not hatin' tho. Play on! I love to find me some track I've always loved. Just sad to see people not wanting to own a tangible product.
Yep, I sympathize! Sayin!
Nah, at least breakers get pussy... or ass.
no. i've a lot of cool bboy shit, but i've also seen a lot of clowns (try to) do it - see above pic.
in my head, it's much cooler digging out and discovering obscure and beautiful old music than spinning around on your head with elbow and kneepads on.
he is, he meant to say DJing
TRITON-hop!
SG
- spidey